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SS\SC Vs. NSX


BullDog71ss
12-08-2005, 10:56 PM
I went out hunting tonight, and I caught me a good one. It was a black, mid-late 90's NSX. He zipped passed me and the thing sounded pretty mean, it definitely had exhaust work done. I decided I was not gonna pass this one up and followed him after he made a right turn. After following him through moderate traffic we made another right ended up right next to eachother with about a 1\2 mile clearing of traffic. I'm to his left now and I look over at him, he downshifts to 2nd as do I and then I wait for him to make a move as we're cruising side by side, doing 35 or so. As soon as I hear him punch it, I hammer the throttle and instantly start to pull a door on him. He starts to gain some of it back though but with a shift to 3rd i put him at my rear bumper. Then with a powershift into 4th i put a half car or so on him. We stopped around 115 or so because traffic was coming up ahead...

I'm going to have to cut this one short and continue tomorrow at work when i have more time to write all this out. The rest gets much better.

Part two coming soon... :naughty:


SS/SC Vs. NSX Part two.

Right after this run he hops on a freeway frontage road. It was two lanes, straight and empty...perfect. I pull along his drivers door and pace him at around 35 mph, waiting for him to make a move, which he didn't do right away. I blipped the throttle for a sec to let him know I was ready, then slowed down again. This caught his attention and when he pulled about even again he punched it and so did I. I pulled him to my rear tire right away and was still pulling slowly untill I crashed into the rev limiter at the top of 2nd gear. This gave him just enough time to pull up and get a nose out ahead of me. With a shift to 3rd I gained back my space and pulled him even, then at around the end of 3rd he started to get a couple inches on me. Finally with a shift to 4th I started reeling his nose in again. We were now doing 115+ mph and we were about dead even when we had to shut down because of the light up ahead.

We pulled next to eachother at the light and I rolled my window down for a little chat with the guy:

Him "That thing is pretty damn quick. I'm impressed"
Me "Thanks dude, your car looks clean as hell"
Him "Thanks. What have you done to it?"
Me "Just a cold air intake and the carbon fiber hood"
Him "Nice. This thing has a cold air and exhaust. How much boost are you running?"
Me "Stock 12.5 psi or so"
Him "Dang dude, that thing moves. I've got a twin turbo at home if you wanna run that"
Me "What kind of twin turbo"
Him "300Z with big turbos running mild boost"
Me "Haha, no thanks dude. That's more than enough to whoop my ass."

He took off once the light turned green and I followed, hoping to get one more good run in. We traveled behind him for a mile or so, then he stuck is arm out of his window and signaled for us to follow him on his right hand turn to head North. This pulled us into and empty street that was bordered by warehouses and office buildings on either side. He stopped and signaled for me to get into the middle lane onf the 3 lane street which put me at his driver side. He said you can usually get one good run in on this road and it's clear all the way to the end. The road was about half a mile long or so and it was a perfect spot for a run from a dig. Then he said "I know you wanna kill yourself an NSX so lets do this."

I line up next to him and get ready. He says "Third honk and we go" I said "Alright". I rev her up to about 1500 rpm and wait...Beep, beep, beep and we're off! I slip out the clutch a bit and hold it at half grip, praying to not get my wheel hop. No dice, the tires start jumping off the steet, but I don't back out of the throttle and it pays off. At about 20 mph my tires bite down and I dump the rest of the clutch and hammer the throttle. To my suprise I got a decent launch and he hasnt rocketed passed me. We're about dead even all through 1st and with a shift to 2nd we're still about even. Both cars are screaming but even with the window down I can bearly hear his exhaust from my side of the car over the m62 whinning away. Now with a shift to 3rd I start to slowly make ground on him. When we shut down at 110 or so I've put his nose at my door jam...hell yeah, that feels pretty good.

We turn left at a stopsign and he follows behind us and then pulls along side again. He yells out "That shits' impressive dawg! Be safe! I'll see ya around" and with that he turned into his neighboorhood and we went our seperate ways. He was a very cool guy and this was easily the best set of races I've ever had. I really wanna meet up with him again.

On a side note, he was driving solo while I had my g/f in the passenger seat and I was also running 87 octane because I'm cheap.

Lot of fun fishing for races. I think I'll look for more tonight after the track...

209 SRT
12-08-2005, 11:20 PM
I think i need to hear the rest of it cause.....those nsx are at best in the top......

TatII
12-09-2005, 01:41 AM
well it depends on what year. its hard to tell which year is which becasue the 5 speed 3 liter nsx's only traps 102mph. however the new 3.2 liter 6 speed nsx's traps 106-107mph. so i would say a 5 speed nsx being beat is pretty believable.

RACER D12
12-09-2005, 10:18 AM
well it depends on what year. its hard to tell which year is which becasue the 5 speed 3 liter nsx's only traps 102mph. however the new 3.2 liter 6 speed nsx's traps 106-107mph. so i would say a 5 speed nsx being beat is pretty believable.


106-07? Damn I didnt think the NSX was THAT fast. With those trap speeds shouldnt it be in the high 12s?

gamelovers11218
12-09-2005, 10:53 AM
I don't think it's true. Look at this:
Car-Stats.com Report for 1998 Acura NSX
Obtained from C&D August, 1998
0-60: 4.5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 12.9
1/4 Speed: 110

TatII
12-09-2005, 11:21 AM
well i just doubled checked car stats.com and yes the 6 speed nsx does indeed trap 106mph. and yes they do run 12's in japan because they weight less. a NSX type S zero actually weights around 2900 lbs and runs 12.9-12.8's all day.

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 12:44 PM
Part two has been added...see first post.

clawhammer
12-09-2005, 01:13 PM
Wow, that was a good race. So you're basically tied with a NSX. I'm surprised though that he didn't eat you alive on the launch, considering that he was mid-engined. It also sounds like you were doing much better on the shifts than he was.

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 01:26 PM
Wow, that was a good race. So you're basically tied with a NSX. I'm surprised though that he didn't eat you alive on the launch, considering that he was mid-engined. It also sounds like you were doing much better on the shifts than he was.


Actually his shifts were right on. I couldnt even really tell when he was shifting, which is a good thing because it ment there was no lag inbetween his shifts. The dude was a pretty good driver, was in his late 20's or so.

caviman69
12-09-2005, 01:36 PM
nice kill man what does your car run at the track.

RACER D12
12-09-2005, 03:25 PM
well i just doubled checked car stats.com and yes the 6 speed nsx does indeed trap 106mph. and yes they do run 12's in japan because they weight less. a NSX type S zero actually weights around 2900 lbs and runs 12.9-12.8's all day.

Then what do the american ones run?

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 04:12 PM
nice kill man what does your car run at the track.


My personal best is a 14.69 @ 98 mph 2.4 60'

I also forgot a couple important details from the conversation I had with the guy. He said he's putting down about 240-250 whp with his mods which leads me to believe it was the 3.0L version and that would make it around a 94-96 NSX. So mid 90's was about right. These cars were rated at 270 bhp from the factory, but I dunno if they actually came with their advertised ratings or not. Either way, it's still an awesome car and it's a good thing that it was the older version of the NSX or it wouldn't have been much of a race for me.

rice(er)
12-09-2005, 04:17 PM
Then what do the american ones run?

should be in the mid 13s, u.s never imports the "performance" cars from japan :crying: :crying: :crying:

nice kill bulldog, i once saw an nsx once, those things looks sexy:licka:

qr25sentra
12-09-2005, 04:20 PM
last i checked colbalt ss supercharged were running mid 14s..

rice(er)
12-09-2005, 04:38 PM
last i checked colbalt ss supercharged were running mid 14s..

i believe the earlier nsx with an automatic transmission ran low 14s, since bulldog didn't hear him shift, is it possible it was an auto nsx? hmmm...

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 04:41 PM
i believe the earlier nsx with an automatic transmission ran low 14s, since bulldog didn't hear him shift, is it possible it was an auto nsx? hmmm...


Oh no, it was a manual.

clawhammer
12-09-2005, 04:52 PM
I don't think that the nsx ever came in automatic

I think that BullDog should dyno his SS/SC, so we can see if he has some sort of miracle engine in there making like 20 hp more than it's supposed to.

I think he wasn't a very good driver, because he should have raped you on the launch. MR layout should launch a lot better than FF layout with wheel hop.

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 04:59 PM
I don't think that the nsx ever came in automatic

I think that BullDog should dyno his SS/SC, so we can see if he has some sort of miracle engine in there making like 20 hp more than it's supposed to.

I think he wasn't a very good driver, because he should have raped you on the launch. MR layout should launch a lot better than FF layout with wheel hop.


You would think so huh :icon16:
I'm just glad that I didn't get the insane wheel hop that I do on the track. At least when I'm on the street I can still keep on it untill it grabs and then the wheel hop goes away. At the track if I don't back off the throttle right away it keeps getting worse untill the car is shaking itself to peices.

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 05:04 PM
I don't think that the nsx ever came in automatic


Actually they did offer it in an auto and I may have to retract my previous statment about the manual. I think it may have been an auto. Hey tat11, how well did the auto cars do stock?

Regaurdless if it was an auto or not, the car was still a lightly upgraded and put out around 240-250 whp.

Right_LiRrr
12-09-2005, 05:58 PM
Man, your stories get crazier and crazier.

The best "races" I get are people revving at me in their Camry Sportivos and you get NSXs....dang.....he woulda had u in the twisties though :-P

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 06:03 PM
Man, your stories get crazier and crazier.

The best "races" I get are people revving at me in their Camry Sportivos and you get NSXs....dang.....he woulda had u in the twisties though :-P


Not too many twisties in the Valley of the Sun though (that would be Phoenix Arizona for you foreign folk ;) )

TatII
12-09-2005, 06:16 PM
Actually they did offer it in an auto and I may have to retract my previous statment about the manual. I think it may have been an auto. Hey tat11, how well did the auto cars do stock?

Regaurdless if it was an auto or not, the car was still a lightly upgraded and put out around 240-250 whp.

auto NSX is only rated at like 250hp and has a redline thats 1000 rpm shorter then the manuel version. they should be like mid 14 second cars stock.

the very first nsx's with the 5 spoke rims and tiny 15x7.5 rims in the back those cars only runs 14 flat, then the years where they started having 17 inch rims and when it had a color matching roof ( the earlier models had black roofs ) those would run high 13's and traps around 102-103mph. the color matching roof came around 94 or 95 if i remember correctly. the 3.2 liter 6 speeds came out around 97-98. those are the low 13 mid 13 second ones that runs with E46 M3's.

qr25sentra
12-09-2005, 06:32 PM
well what do u run at the track?

BullDog71ss
12-09-2005, 07:45 PM
well what do u run at the track?



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Originally Posted by caviman69
nice kill man what does your car run at the track.
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My personal best is a 14.69 @ 98 mph 2.4 60'

I also forgot a couple important details from the conversation I had with the guy. He said he's putting down about 240-250 whp with his mods which leads me to believe it was the 3.0L version and that would make it around a 94-96 NSX. So mid 90's was about right. These cars were rated at 270 bhp from the factory, but I dunno if they actually came with their advertised ratings or not. Either way, it's still an awesome car and it's a good thing that it was the older version of the NSX or it wouldn't have been much of a race for me.

Ace$nyper
12-09-2005, 08:04 PM
AWESOME!

I've been wanting a crack at one of those cars for a long time.

I'm jealous and as normal well written fun story.

CassiesMan
12-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Good kill man, ya know, everytime I read one of your stories, I wanna buy one of those SS/SCs. The only problem is its wrong wheel drive. I promised myself that my next car wouldn't have less than six cylinders unless it has force induction and would be rear or all wheel drive. But hey, thats just me, and your car seems to be pretty bad ass. Good kill again!

Skyline_R32_Canada
12-10-2005, 12:22 AM
i just can't understand......your car runs at BEST 14.69, so we can safely say your car is mid-high 14 second car, and you beat an EVO and an NSX on the highway which are high 13 second cars to low 14 second cars

I can't put the pieces together, there must be something wrong because i can't believe that there are so many shitty drivers out to win that many times

BullDog71ss
12-10-2005, 01:45 AM
i just can't understand......your car runs at BEST 14.69, so we can safely say your car is mid-high 14 second car, and you beat an EVO and an NSX on the highway which are high 13 second cars to low 14 second cars

I can't put the pieces together, there must be something wrong because i can't believe that there are so many shitty drivers out to win that many times


Maybe it's not that they're all shitty drivers, it could just be that I'm the best driver EVAR!11!1 :icon16:


AWESOME!

I've been wanting a crack at one of those cars for a long time.

I'm jealous and as normal well written fun story.


Thanks dude, glad you enjoyed it. I'm sure there will be more good once to come as well. :naughty:


Good kill man, ya know, everytime I read one of your stories, I wanna buy one of those SS/SCs. The only problem is its wrong wheel drive. I promised myself that my next car wouldn't have less than six cylinders unless it has force induction and would be rear or all wheel drive. But hey, thats just me, and your car seems to be pretty bad ass. Good kill again!


If this was my only car, I doubt I woulda bought it, being fwd and all. But I was looking for a fun daily driver since I've got a rwd V8 beast in the works. So I really didn't mind the FWD factor because of that. I do have to say that it is a damn fun car to drive, very surprising for a GM compact.

TypeS
12-10-2005, 11:54 AM
i just can't understand......your car runs at BEST 14.69, so we can safely say your car is mid-high 14 second car, and you beat an EVO and an NSX on the highway which are high 13 second cars to low 14 second cars

I can't put the pieces together, there must be something wrong because i can't believe that there are so many shitty drivers out to win that many times

BIG :werd: I'm still waiting on the videos.

BullDog71ss
12-10-2005, 01:02 PM
BIG :werd: I'm still waiting on the videos.

What...you guys don't believe me? Sheesh :shakehead



:lol2:

Mad_Maxima
12-10-2005, 01:26 PM
Man u get all the good races, I'm so jealous. Maybe if i get cf hood i can get a shot at some heavyweights.

But theres a dude that works in my building that has a "Honda" NSX, but i still dont have the times right for when he leaves to get a shot, even though i know I'd get killed. It's either in the parking lot or going the opposite way.

Anyways, good story and nice runs.

BullDog71ss
12-10-2005, 01:50 PM
Man u get all the good races, I'm so jealous. Maybe if i get cf hood i can get a shot at some heavyweights.

But theres a dude that works in my building that has a "Honda" NSX, but i still dont have the times right for when he leaves to get a shot, even though i know I'd get killed. It's either in the parking lot or going the opposite way.

Anyways, good story and nice runs.

Thanks man.

Although it's a nice car to cruise around in and daily drive, a 91 maxima just ins't a car that most exotics would wanna go after ya know ;)

RaidenKing
12-10-2005, 09:10 PM
Well if you race an awd car geared for a solid 0-60 time from a roll, chances are that your better suited gearing/fwd drivetrain minimal loss will work to your advantage.
As for the nsx.... I don't really know what to tell you. Congratulations? Those cars never impressed me much because they put out unimpressive numbers and cost quite a bit but the performance models in japan are definitely forces to be reckoned with.

Everytime I come around here to check on things you have a new story to tell. Not a bad thing, but as I read along it seems like the stories become more and more incredulous. Bring the lightest friend you have next night you go searching for races and strap him with a video camera. I know I'm not the only one who would like to see these kills.

BullDog71ss
12-10-2005, 09:30 PM
Well if you race an awd car geared for a solid 0-60 time from a roll, chances are that your better suited gearing/fwd drivetrain minimal loss will work to your advantage.
As for the nsx.... I don't really know what to tell you. Congratulations? Those cars never impressed me much because they put out unimpressive numbers and cost quite a bit but the performance models in japan are definitely forces to be reckoned with.

Everytime I come around here to check on things you have a new story to tell. Not a bad thing, but as I read along it seems like the stories become more and more incredulous. Bring the lightest friend you have next night you go searching for races and strap him with a video camera. I know I'm not the only one who would like to see these kills.


I'll get some vids going in due time ;)

Mad_Maxima
12-11-2005, 03:37 AM
Thanks man.

Although it's a nice car to cruise around in and daily drive, a 91 maxima just ins't a car that most exotics would wanna go after ya know ;)

You'd be suprised what alittle pursuation can do. Although i do use this car as a daily driver and dont like to race it, if i see a badass car, i wanna see what it can do. I got a MKIV Supra to race after some of my "little persuation." I gotta say its fun getting killed by something like that.

Hopefully my twin turbo 350Z can do the killing in the future.

always8krpm
12-11-2005, 08:48 AM
Bulldog, you have fantastical stories and a kill list that leaves us all reality checking ourselves. For all those skeptics...we need a video to back you up. Without proof harder than a 14.7 quarter mile time it's hard to see a cobalt ss/sc putting down NSXs. Regardless of the validity of the story, it's a damn good one. Keep us informed on the magical SS!

BullDog71ss
12-11-2005, 12:02 PM
Bulldog, you have fantastical stories and a kill list that leaves us all reality checking ourselves. For all those skeptics...we need a video to back you up. Without proof harder than a 14.7 quarter mile time it's hard to see a cobalt ss/sc putting down NSXs. Regardless of the validity of the story, it's a damn good one. Keep us informed on the magical SS!

Hey hey hey, it was a 14.69, not a 14.7! :icon16:

Like I said before, I'll try to get some vids goin asap, but untill then you guys will just have to skeptisize over my fantastical stories ;)

209 SRT
12-13-2005, 01:21 AM
What...you guys don't believe me? Sheesh :shakehead



:lol2:

I never believed you.....just agreed with you......hahaha

BullDog71ss
12-13-2005, 10:23 AM
I never believed you.....just agreed with you......hahaha


:grinno:

youngvr4
12-13-2005, 03:32 PM
i just can't understand......your car runs at BEST 14.69, so we can safely say your car is mid-high 14 second car, and you beat an EVO and an NSX on the highway which are high 13 second cars to low 14 second cars

I can't put the pieces together, there must be something wrong because i can't believe that there are so many shitty drivers out to win that many times

doesnt make any sense to me either skyline.

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