OBD Issues on a 97 Lumina
jbradley
12-07-2005, 10:17 PM
The facts:
1) My wifes 97 Lumina (sedan, 3.1) SES light comes on.
2) The car fails NJ state inspection for "random misfire" code. (p06?)
3) The shop where we go does their "fuel injector service". Fixes nothing.
4) All plugs and wires are changed. Car runs much better, but...
5) One cylinder (6), is still misfiring wildly. They pull and clean that fuel injector. All codes seem to disappear and SES light goes out.
6) I have the car reinspected but it FAILS beacuse the OBD gives the inspection guys NOTHING. No codes, no data, no "Not Ready's".
7) I stop at AutoZone on the way home and ask them to pull the codes. Their handheld box just says "Pass".
Questions:
1) Could the "Pass" from AZ be the result of no data at all?
2) Is there a "reset time" on the OBD? (I don't mean drive cycles.)
3) Could this be a fuse or breaker? I looked in the manual for one but could not find anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
1) My wifes 97 Lumina (sedan, 3.1) SES light comes on.
2) The car fails NJ state inspection for "random misfire" code. (p06?)
3) The shop where we go does their "fuel injector service". Fixes nothing.
4) All plugs and wires are changed. Car runs much better, but...
5) One cylinder (6), is still misfiring wildly. They pull and clean that fuel injector. All codes seem to disappear and SES light goes out.
6) I have the car reinspected but it FAILS beacuse the OBD gives the inspection guys NOTHING. No codes, no data, no "Not Ready's".
7) I stop at AutoZone on the way home and ask them to pull the codes. Their handheld box just says "Pass".
Questions:
1) Could the "Pass" from AZ be the result of no data at all?
2) Is there a "reset time" on the OBD? (I don't mean drive cycles.)
3) Could this be a fuse or breaker? I looked in the manual for one but could not find anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
jbradley
12-08-2005, 12:27 PM
More to the point: What could be wrong if the OBD isn't communicating?
I took it back to original garage, and he couldn't talk to the computer anymore either. I can ony assume that it's not the computer itself that's not working because I would expect to see a lot more problems if that were the case.
Has anyone ever seen a problem like this before? I honestly don't know where to start looking.
Thanks for any help at all.
I took it back to original garage, and he couldn't talk to the computer anymore either. I can ony assume that it's not the computer itself that's not working because I would expect to see a lot more problems if that were the case.
Has anyone ever seen a problem like this before? I honestly don't know where to start looking.
Thanks for any help at all.
maxwedge
12-08-2005, 02:24 PM
The liter fuse could be bad, no power to scanner.
jbradley
12-08-2005, 04:24 PM
The liter fuse could be bad, no power to scanner.
I use the lighter for other things (like my cell phone charger) and it's working fine. Besides, the machine at the inspection station couldn't read me either.
Thanks for the reply, though.
I use the lighter for other things (like my cell phone charger) and it's working fine. Besides, the machine at the inspection station couldn't read me either.
Thanks for the reply, though.
maxwedge
12-08-2005, 05:00 PM
Look for another fuse out, there is a power circuit for the scanner that powers up anyones scanner including the insp station.
jbradley
12-08-2005, 05:23 PM
Look for another fuse out, there is a power circuit for the scanner that powers up anyones scanner including the insp station.
That is great news. Do you happen to know if the fuse is under the hood or in the passenger compartment?
That is great news. Do you happen to know if the fuse is under the hood or in the passenger compartment?
maxwedge
12-08-2005, 07:24 PM
Take a look in the owners manual, but the fuse panel is r/s of dash where the door closes and under the hood.
jbradley
12-08-2005, 07:40 PM
Take a look in the owners manual, but the fuse panel is r/s of dash where the door closes and under the hood.
I know that there are three fuse panels (2 under the hood and 1 in the passenger area), but I was curious if you knew where the fuse that powers the OBD connector was.
Thanks again.
I know that there are three fuse panels (2 under the hood and 1 in the passenger area), but I was curious if you knew where the fuse that powers the OBD connector was.
Thanks again.
jbradley
12-09-2005, 01:20 PM
I know that there are three fuse panels (2 under the hood and 1 in the passenger area), but I was curious if you knew where the fuse that powers the OBD connector was.
Thanks again.
Update: (bad news?) I put a voltmeter across pins 4 (chassis ground)and 16 (battery positive) on the OBD port and got 12 volts. I guess this means there's not a blown fuse, unless there's a fuse that controls something else... @$#!%
Thanks again.
Update: (bad news?) I put a voltmeter across pins 4 (chassis ground)and 16 (battery positive) on the OBD port and got 12 volts. I guess this means there's not a blown fuse, unless there's a fuse that controls something else... @$#!%
maxwedge
12-09-2005, 03:52 PM
No fuse/power is good, this will take further diagnosis.
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