lawyers

how are all of your opinions on lawyers?

my father is one, so for the longest time i didnt understand why people disliked them so much. now i realize how many of them, no offesne, but especially prosecutors can be. doing it for the money, or in the prosecutors intentions of putting any person in jail, just to say they found the culpret. it doesnt seem to matter to them who actually is guilty.

i was used to hearing about my father's situation of knowing he wouldnt receiveany pay. or when he knows his client is guilty, he has tried to find someway to get them to confess to the court.

i dont mean to seem offensive to any prosecutors out there. i have just had some troubles with them in my past. basically i have been charged with things i did not do, and when the guilty person finally confessed to what they did, i received no appology.

Man, don't take this as a ' dis to your Dad. It isn't aimed at him. You asked a question, and I'm going to answer honestly.


Lawyers are leaches.

They wait till you fall in the crapper, then attach themselves to you and suck the last of your life blood. They keep drinking and drinking, till there's nothing left.

No comment!

This is directed at all lawyers - your dad included. They are self serving bottom dwellers. Lawyers and judges aren't interested in the truth. They are interested in getting paid and winning. The reason the laws of this country are so fucked up is because of lawyers. Its not professional housing people in charge of HUD or accounts for the IRS - its lawyers. Politicians? They are lawyers too. Sorry dude, but your dad sucks and I dont even have to meet him to know it.

So much for a subtle reply. Why don't you just go for the throat YogsVR4??? :bloated:

Originally posted by Tireburner
So much for a subtle reply. Why don't you just go for the throat YogsVR4??? :bloated:

Please, no demonstrations will be required as he's proven he will go for the juggula at first sight.:D

I don't think he stopped at the Jugs, I think he went for the Jewels too :eek:

Originally posted by Tireburner
I don't think he stopped at the Jugs, I think he went for the Jewels too :eek:

D'oh!:eek:

Well, let's see here. I have personally known very few lawyers, so my judgement is based off of primarily biased stories, but I have heard far too many stories of guilty people walking because of some stupid flaw in their arrest. Quite frankly that sickens me. Some stupid technicality can mean the difference between morality and malady. I am sure that there are some people who deal with the law in a proper and fair manner, but I'm afraid that in this malicious world of simple money from law suits and insurance, etc. fraud that this trend is likely to falter...

Originally posted by Tireburner
So much for a subtle reply. Why don't you just go for the throat YogsVR4??? :bloated:

There are a few things that I am and SUBTLE is not one of them.

*ahem*
"If it wasnt for lawyers, we wouldnt need lawyers."

If you can name that movie you're in for a big cookie. Once again YellowMarnello cant answer.

The Firm???

Ok I know a lot of lawyers sucks serious donky b@!!s but not everyone of them is a complete waste of flesh, take one of my friends her mom is a lawyer and she dosn't take the cases that make her a lot of money as a matter of fact she mostly takes on cases where the person involved has no money at all. And as for the people bitching about technicalities getting people off, my best friend was busted for having a bag in his car that had just tiny flakes of weed in it searously it wasn't even enough to get out of the bag just some dust cought in the corner, he had bought the car used a few months prior and he new that the bag was not his now the cops involved had pulled him over and searched his car without going through the proper channels to do it and ripped out his back seat were they found the bag stuffed under it. If it wasn't for technicalities that his lawyer brought up in court my friend would have a conviction for a B.S. charge that wasn't his fault. Just imagine how you would feel if you had a drug charge on your record and you were trying to get a job and it came up, do you think your future employer is going to believe you when you say it wasn't your fault.
I'm not defending all lawyers or the scum that get out of something they did do because of "technicalities" I'm just saying not everyone of them is an evil leache and you would deffinitly feel a lot different if you were in trouble and needed some good leagal help.

Remember its not the lawyers that get you off on a technicality or get you arrested for trumped charges. It all stems from asshole lawyers becoming asshole politicians and making the laws in the first place. You are just seeing the afteraffects.

nope sorry tireburner, guess again. :frog:

I don't think it's the Lawyers you guys should be pissed off at - they merely show parts of the LAW that will condemn or exonerate a person. It's the Law you guys should be cursing when a Lawyer can use it to free a guilty man, or condemn an innocent one.

Originally posted by MercCougarXR7
I don't think it's the Lawyers you guys should be pissed off at - they merely show parts of the LAW that will condemn or exonerate a person. It's the Law you guys should be cursing when a Lawyer can use it to free a guilty man, or condemn an innocent one.

Dude - did you miss a previous post of mine? Is the lawyers who become politicians who create the damn laws to begin with.

Originally posted by MercCougarXR7
I don't think it's the Lawyers you guys should be pissed off at - they merely show parts of the LAW that will condemn or exonerate a person. It's the Law you guys should be cursing when a Lawyer can use it to free a guilty man, or condemn an innocent one.

Point taken, but we shouldn't have to manipulate the law. Laws are written over-and-over again to try and remove loopholes such that Lawyers can't manipulate it to their liking...

Yogs prepares to repeat himself yet again.

Lawyers make the laws. They are working both sides of the street. Dont trust them. Dont believe them.

Yogs now sits back and waits to repeat himself again in short order

Originally posted by YogsVR4
Yogs prepares to repeat himself yet again.

Lawyers make the laws. They are working both sides of the street. Dont trust them. Dont believe them.

Yogs now sits back and waits to repeat himself again in short order

I get it, but I am saying that society should not exist such that Lawyers are even needed... I know that will NEVER happen, but that is how things should be. Stupid people sueing other stupid people is not what this existence should be about!!!

I believe if people hired buisness people and union organizers as politicians to make the laws, the legal system would be a whole lot more straight forward. Then the lawyers cant give themselves so much wiggle room.

<<DONNING FLAME SUIT, ZIPPING UP>>

Not every last lawyer out there resides at the bottom of the barrel. I work for a personal injury law firm. We screen each potential client's situation before we sign them up. Only a small percentage of people that call for our services have an acutal good case...in other words not a frivoulous suit.

Also think of it this way...most legal situations need a lawyer because most people out there have no idea what their rights are in certain situations, and the opposing party will take plenty of advantage of that. For example most of our clients would not know how to handle dealing with an insurance company without getting run over and screwed. Our attorneys handle all the dealings cuz they know the things to say etc. Also most people (from what I have observed) have horrible organization skills. We have our clients medical bills and what not sent to us so we can keep them in a file so that when it is time for a demand letter to be sent out...we have copies of their documentation as proof of what they went thru and how much its costing. Most people just throw their paperwork in a drawer and what not....and yes I am guilty of that :p

Also look at medical practice or severe injury trials that go on forever...you need a lawyer to research cases, get their paralegals to draft up letters and pledings etc. Not every ordinary citizen can do that all on their own.

Katwoman:

There are instances where attorneys can come in handy...

Threating letters
Threating phone calls
Manipulation of the law
Field trips.. take the children to a law firm and show the what NOT to become


They make law libraries (sp ?) (it's too early, brain not working) for people to educate themselves regarding the case that they are looking to. Problem that arises is that Judges are ex-attorneys, and all they see by you going ex-parte is one of their buddies loosing money... Very evil circle.

our family lawyer is a really nice guy, plus he gets my dad outta some bad situations..... so we'd consider him as a friend, i got nothin against him

Think about how it would be if there were no lawyers, everything would be fucked. If somebody murdered someone else, who would do justice?? Not all lawyers are good, but somebody has to defend somebody else, so that not all innocent people get charged for something they didn't do.... there are good and bad sides to everything

I didn't used to think much of lawyers before, but if it wasn't for the one we hired, we'd probably still be waiting for my husband's Skyline!!!

:mad:

I'm sure there are some pleasant Nazis, child molester, Taliban and canibals out there too, but I want nothing to do with any of them.

Yogs do you think there shouldn't be any lawyers? How would the world work without lawyers?

or do you just hate them all but know there's a need for them

My dad was a lawyer. Now he's dead. Some doctors were splitting up their buisness, and he was the lead buisness lawyer for the firm representing the company. He had to deal with both sides. It got to be too much for him. He killed himself in the back of what is now my car. Carbon monoxide poisoning.

I still have that car. He did it when I was 9. We found him when we got back from a trip.

Don't ever say lawyers are leeches, or that they are mindless scumbags. Fuck you if you do.

Originally posted by blatch
My dad was a lawyer. Now he's dead. Some doctors were splitting up their buisness, and he was the lead buisness lawyer for the firm representing the company. He had to deal with both sides. It got to be too much for him. He killed himself in the back of what is now my car. Carbon monoxide poisoning.

I still have that car. He did it when I was 9. We found him when we got back from a trip.

Don't ever say lawyers are leeches, or that they are mindless scumbags. Fuck you if you do.

Sorry your dad was such a pussy that he killed himself. I have no sympathy for someone who hasn't the balls to deal with life. I do feel sympathy for you and your family for dealing with this though. As far as lawyers go - they're still fucking leaches of society.

Originally posted by YogsVR4


Sorry your dad was such a pussy that he killed himself. I have no sympathy for someone who hasn't the balls to deal with life
That's totally rude, uncalled for and downright nasty. You are entitled tp your opinion but that doesn't give you the right to put it into the public domain. Have you no feelings or compassion because you sound pretty heartless to me! He was a member's father and I'm sure loved very much. How would you like someone saying that about your father? You have the right to think those things, but don't say them, not in here anyway! :mad:

Originally posted by YogsVR4


Sorry your dad was such a pussy that he killed himself. I have no sympathy for someone who hasn't the balls to deal with life. I do feel sympathy for you and your family for dealing with this though. As far as lawyers go - they're still fucking leaches of society.

the guys dad died, you could atleast have a little respect... holy shit
what if your dad died and somebody was talkin shit about him, and callin him a pussy

that was so wrong... i'm with FTO girl here, that was so uncalled for

FTO and GS. I do feel sorry for the family. But I do not take back what I said about the father. I know of other dads who took the easy way out and left their children behind. Fucking cowardly acts. Life is not always easy, but its your responsibility to look after the family you put together. His dad wasn't taken from him. His dad was not kidnapped, threatened, injured or blackmailed into doing something like this. He left his family behind and thats about as low as you can get.

You can dislike my opinion and you can sympathize with the family and thats perfectly fine. I do wish Blatch and the rest of his family the strength to deal with this and growing up to be good people. But I'm not going to pussyfoot around the fact the guy took the easy way out.

As for the rest of you. You dont know me. You dont know my family history. I know more about this then 99% of you.

YogsVR4:

Although you put it harshly... extremely harshly... I agree with you.

Suicide is not the answer. It just creates another problem.

yeah i agree with that too... i would never kill myself, not over anything

but still it was kinda mean saying that pretty much to the persons face... i'm sure they don't feel good about their dad not being around, so they don't need people insulting him

Yogs, that was harsh. If thats your opinion, fine. Dont say that out loud to his face! I think you are a good member, (blatch is to), but that was uncalled for and has tarnished my opinion of you. Next time, just say "I dont think suicide is ever the way out. But I feel for you"
That would be better.:what:

Yogs, how bout this. I hope that someday life gets to be too much for even you, then, when you die, someone tells your kids that their father was a pussy. What in the fuck do you do then?

I think Yogs got the message.

Back to lawyers,

I think a lot of my dispise for lawyers comes from doing a lot of my own paper work. I'll go research it, fill it out, then take it to an attorney to look over. They'll spend 10-15 minutes making indiscermable noises, say it looks good, charge $75 -$100. Then when you present it to the judge, something's missing, and it's not filed properly, so it's dismissed.

Really burns my cookie.

My aunt is going to be lawyer (she has about a year left of stuff to do, and she is now working in a law firm in kitchener). She is a very nice, friendly, happy person, so not all lawyers are bad.

IMHO, the bad lawyers are the ones who defend guilty people (like OJ), and twist the system to get their way. They do it for money, and I dont really have respect for them.

But those lawyers who defend regular clients, familys, people who are sorry but dont want their life to end, etc, those people are good, and I have respect for them.

But they are pricey:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Chris
she is now working in a law firm in kitchener


oh really :D maybe she lives near me?



i wouldn't mind making as much money as johnny cochran (who defended OJ) that guy is really amazing at twisting the system. Yeah he's bad yada yada


I would defend Tony Soprano, that would be fun, you know he's a mob boss and you know that he does the bad things but you try to defend him. whatever, i guess i'm goin to hell, lol :)

I want to put a cap on this to summarize what is fact and what is opinion. Now, unless you are an actual lawyer, meaning, you are the licensed person to discuss law this is not directed to you. However, this is directed to those who either work, associate or what have you with them. Now, I'm not going to bash or flame anyone in here. I am merely going to say from what I've experienced and from what I have seen.

Lawyers, made to protect the innocent and uphold the law in our courts. While some do what's right, others don't. Just like police, you have some bad apples. Now, unless you are in their shoes, all lawyers are susceptible to the same temptations as we are. I'm sorry, but in today's society, with big companies and such, even the most legit lawyer will bend. Sometimes without him even knowing it. That in essence is the problem.

Me personally, I've had a few dealings with lawyers, about 4 to be exact. Totally different, non-associated, but ultimately the same. It is how things are, unfortunately, that money can change a person's perspective on how they choose to interpret the law. Not that many people here or anywhere for that matter can say or object that they would turn down a temptation. Because the truth of the matter is, if your job was on the line, and you could not be a lawyer and it is something that you've always wanted to do, some of you would twist things around also. Now with this said, before anyone goes bursting a blood vessel. I'm not saying you wouldn't turn down a temptation, just that unless the situation is present and right in front of your face and you have to choose, you just never know which way you will lean.

That is being truthful and honest because that is what they are faced with. You see lawyers right now saying that they would defend a terrorist. Not because they actually believe their innocense, but because of the profit potential. Why else would they take on a case of such magnitude.

There are some good lawyers out there, but not many. And in my opinion, 95% of them look at money over matter. Everyone needs to eat and everyone wants to look good and be successful. Success is not measured on the quality of the case, but whether you win or lose it.

That is the truth.

Gavel hits the bench

The Honorable Judge DVSNCYNIKL proclaims the case closed! :p

Originally posted by blatch
Yogs, how bout this. I hope that someday life gets to be too much for even you, then, when you die, someone tells your kids that their father was a pussy. What in the fuck do you do then?

Someday I am going to die and people can say whatever the hell they want. It wont bother me any. Remember though, I am not taking my own life. I don’t run from my responsibilities to my family.

No concerns about life getting to hard for me. I am having way to much fun and I learned long ago that when stress builds up, you find out what causes it and change that thing or get away from it.

Any parent who abandons their children for any reason is a coward.

Yogs, did you go prison?

Originally posted by Tireburner
Gavel hits the bench

The Honorable Judge DVSNCYNIKL proclaims the case closed! :p

:D :p :D

Originally posted by blatch
Yogs, did you go prison?

Never been in prison. Pounded the shit out of an ex con once, but not in a prison.

I met a good lawyer a few years ago. I bought a used car and took it in to have the air conditioner core cleaned out (you wouldn't believe the shit that lives in there) and the mechanic found some left handed luckies tucked away in there. I got a visit from police while at work and calmly explained my situation. My lawyer showed in court that I bought the car 2 hours earlier and dropped it off to have some work done. I still don't know why I couldn't represent myself, but he didn't charge me very much. I just paid him a couple hours and a few dollars for a drug screening.

Pounded an ex-con.... lol, nice Yogs :)

enginerd:

I read a story similar to that in the paper. A guy had bought a Ram truck at a police auction. On the way home the truck kept dying. He filled it up, and all it took was 4 gallons. The problem kept happening so he had it towed to the dealer. The tech dropped the fuel tank and found like 15 kilos of coke in the gas tank. The guy was arrested at work by DEA. Charged with drug trafficing :eek: He had to prove where he bought the truck. DEA researched it, found the truck was originally taken from a drug trafficer and they had missed all the stash. It required a profuse appology by DEA for his inconvienence etc..

This is what they'd have seen when they released my ass out of jail and appologized!!
:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

I have nothing against lawyers what-so-ever, but thier prices do seem very high most times.

Yeah, or in California, a woman bought a Volkswagen from a police aution and had a similar problem. The mechanic found 84,000$ in the gas tank. The judge said the money belonged to the owner, since police were aware of criminals hiding things in gas tanks since "Easy Rider". :D
I wish that had happend to me!! Instead I was treated like I killed someone! Of course, in my state the punishment for killing both your parents is less than owning a gram of cocaine!

WOW....This thread is interesting.

My 2 cents worth.....i' wouldnt trust one as far as i could throw one.

There fees and costs are just bloody stupid.

Originally posted by enginerd
Of course, in my state the punishment for killing both your parents is less than owning a gram of cocaine!

that's a stupid ass law!!

We do have some bizarre drug laws. I still don't quite understand how owning drugs is worse than murder. If the gov were to change that law, my state would get a black eye for it. I can see the headline now STATE LESSENS CHARGES FOR DRUG POSESSION! so, I can see why it stays on the books. Can't forget about politicians losing face.:rolleyes: