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Mojo_stevo
11-28-2005, 07:00 PM
I guess not. So Nissan has decided that they are going to take on Scion with this: http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/stk/2007/ns2007versa5d1818399m.jpg
Are you kidding? More like they are trying to take on the Chevy Aveo.

Here is the article: Nissan will introduce a new sub-compact car to the US market to address the sales success of Scion. The new Versa will be sold in both 5-door and sedan forms and will slot below the all-new Sentra due next year. Versa will be powered by a 1.8L 4-cylinder engine rated at 120+ hp and 125+ lb-ft of torque. A continuously variable transmission (CVT) will be available as an option. Nissan is aiming for an MSRP starting at $12,000 when the Versa goes on sale next year.

Excuse me while I wipe the vomit off my lap. Good econo box and all, but I'd even take a X-A over one.

I sure hope that's not what became of this: http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/nissansport05.jpg
Pretty cool for a front puller. And yeees I know, this came out 8 months ago....

Hit_N_Run-player
11-28-2005, 07:15 PM
That is worse than an xA :puke:

EDIT: Damn these AF smileys, not working....

Chuki_breath
11-28-2005, 07:38 PM
i like my xb better lol as far as a stock ride. The power on the nissan is definantly better though. Thats exactly what scion should have done. I think i should have waited, i buy one of those in a heartbeat for a daily. Especially if its only 12k. THe one that is done up owns > scion. XA's blow.

Mojo_stevo
11-28-2005, 08:16 PM
The one on the bottom is the Sport concept that came out in April, Nissan hasn't said anything about building it yet. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if they produced it. The looks alone own any hatch that the US has seen yet.

slideways...
11-28-2005, 09:47 PM
that car is a copy of the renault megane with nissan's smallest engine in it.makes sense since renault owns nissan...

http://www.in.gr/auto/dokimes/pr_dokimes_in/Renault_Megane_II_1400/big/in_Renault_Megane_60.jpg


the sport concept is probably going to manifest itself in a hatchback version of the sentra in the next model change, probably around 2009 or so. thats my guess

assad_l
11-28-2005, 10:08 PM
renault owns nissan...
see this is what scared me as a little kid and it still does, there are no more sporty jap cars, it scares me.

2.4L of Torque
11-28-2005, 10:31 PM
Lets see...
Infiniti G35 BADASS SPORTY too..
Nissan 350Z BADASS SPORTY
the new GTR Skyline.....SPORTY FAST ASS HELL HANDLES YOUR MOM LIKE THE LAND O LAKES BUTTER BOX

assad_l
11-28-2005, 10:34 PM
thats it 350z, rx8, new gtr, is there gonna be a s16?

slideways...
11-28-2005, 10:50 PM
99.8% no

Scope240
11-28-2005, 11:16 PM
hey, well we still have a .2% chance to hope for, all is not lost.......

assad_l
11-28-2005, 11:24 PM
i dnt get it, does that mean that theres a .2% chance of sporty jap cars going on forever? or is it a 98% chance?

Mojo_stevo
11-28-2005, 11:25 PM
RX-8 Phhaaaaaahaha!!!! Nice car, shitty looks. I'd expect more from Pontiac. They shouldn't have ceased the RX-7, kinda pathetic that they exhausted it's design. It woulda been sweet to have a next gen 7 next to the 8. But that's as likely as the S16.

Mojo_stevo
11-28-2005, 11:26 PM
And why does that Renault look better? I mean still rental car material but...

Hit_N_Run-player
11-28-2005, 11:35 PM
RX-8 Phhaaaaaahaha!!!! Nice car, shitty looks. I'd expect more from Pontiac. They shouldn't have ceased the RX-7, kinda pathetic that they exhausted it's design. It woulda been sweet to have a next gen 7 next to the 8. But that's as likely as the S16.

I thought that ford owned mazda?

Mojo_stevo
11-28-2005, 11:45 PM
I thought that ford owned mazda?

Muaahhahahahahahaa, no shit huh lol, I forgot about that :lol2:, good call home skillet.
I think aliens designed the GT-40 like 40 million years ago, and ford dug it up and put their badge on it.

orestes
11-28-2005, 11:55 PM
lol. and i dunno that doesnt look like a bad buy for 12k. i would rather pay 12k for a nissan than that much for like a kia, scion, hyundai, etc.


-not that i would buy that car-

Hit_N_Run-player
11-29-2005, 12:41 AM
scion=toyota. I wouldnt put scion down with kai and hyundai.

And yeah, the Rx8 is a sweet car, with shitty looks. No offense to any ford owners but i wouldnt have expected much more from the company..

orestes
11-29-2005, 01:15 AM
i saw an rx-8 when i was in LA that i fell in love with. i didnt get a super close look at it, but it looked like both the goofy front fender flares and the STUPID back doors were like blended in so you couldnt see them, it look more like a 7, and it was sick. i really really really really liked it. if they would have just made the damn car like that in the first place...

Hit_N_Run-player
11-29-2005, 02:04 AM
i wish they would have kept the FD syles..i love em

assad_l
11-29-2005, 02:20 AM
im kinda starting to fancy the fc, but still nowhere as nice as s13's :)

TRUBO_89
11-29-2005, 02:08 PM
FC is my fav
but the fd is awsome too, got turbos on the engines
rx8 looks nothing like the rest of the rx lineup and no turbo option.... :cya: come on...

as for that nissan...well it can burn in hell with the rest of the scions for all i care

Chuki_breath
11-29-2005, 03:51 PM
scion=toyota. I wouldnt put scion down with kai and hyundai.

And yeah, the Rx8 is a sweet car, with shitty looks. No offense to any ford owners but i wouldnt have expected much more from the company..


+1 hit and run. I was going to snap. Scion is toyota, cant diss toyota. But there definantly not everyones flavor. I like mine though, but it does look way better than stock lol. And as far as a daily, it owns all. Plenty of room to pack shit. I picked up all 4 mounted and balance rims/tires in 4 huge boxes in this small LOOKING thing. There was still room to pack little stuff in. Gas mileage im 98% sure it prolly owns anything in your family right now. Has 4 doors. Fits 5 people COMFORTABLY. Girls think its cute. And yea no rice boy fags rev on you every where you go. And police dont follow as much. I feel worry free in this bitch. I just swurve it slow and easy and enjoy the radio(which i hadnt had one for 2 years prior!!!).

basically i bought it because its the total opposite of the 240's. I can fit more than 1 person in it. I can pile a bunch of shit in there when need to(camping, pick up parts, etc). I dont have to worry about breaking down on the way home. I dont have to listen to my car fall apart. I can listen to the radio. And good gas mileage, o yea and WARRANTY. Thats basically why i got it. So now i can hammer down on the coupe and not worry about it not being together to go to work the next day. I got a couple g's saved up for spending aside from my account. Im going to take care of damaged things first(body, various little engine stuff(wires, plugs etc))....and exhaust lol, think im going exmag.

orestes
11-29-2005, 04:54 PM
duh i fukin know scion = toyota i dont live in a cave. i just dont really like toyota and would rather support nissan than them.

assad_l
11-29-2005, 06:03 PM
man wtf is all these car companies owning other car compainies?

Hit_N_Run-player
11-29-2005, 06:32 PM
Its all business and a minor type of monopolization, it would never get to a point where one company has a monopoly but its the same type of idea i guess. I would support nissan more also, but id have to say that Nissan, Toyota, and yes honda (they dont get a caps on H though) are probably the most reliable brands you can go with. I wouldnt say hondas make good race cars, but they sure can run long as hell if people dont beat the shit out the them and rice them out and miss gears to blow the engine (happened last night in my friend teg lol).

Pavlo
11-29-2005, 09:17 PM
I would much rather buy a civic for 12k. Mine has 140k and is not even clost being broken in any way. It runs as perfect as it gets, plus i have all the maintaince records (religiously serviced at a dealer) since the car was baught, thats why I am not selling it or planning on selling it. I also changed all the fluids, MC and CV-boots so it is as good as new :).
That thing looks fuglier than other cars in its class. When it comes to jap main car brands I have: Subaru> Evolution (only mitsu I like) >nissan>honda (compact 4 cylinder prefer civic over sentra though)>toyota.

orestes
11-29-2005, 09:56 PM
i like Honda much more than Toyota. toyota is gay. they dont make anything thats cool. at all. Lexus's are nice but id rather have other luxury cars. i think the sportiest car in the Toyota lineup is a V6 Camry.

at least Honda did good (IMO) with the new Si, i would love to have one of those except for the insurance is always ridiculous on them I like RSX's they are fun to drive and have nice ass interiors. And like its been brought up, the civic is everyones favorite economy car.

assad_l
11-29-2005, 10:15 PM
honda over toyota!!!!! are you crazy, supras rip on integras and civics.
altezza is nice sourer aswell, new celicas but theyre fr.

Mojo_stevo
11-29-2005, 10:18 PM
........ I just swurve it slow and easy and enjoy the radio(which i hadnt had one for 2 years prior!!!)...... .

Yessss I'm not the only one who had car with no radio. My seven duece Nova has the facia... but no radio! Doesn't even have speakers. The 1, yes 1 rusted speaker fell out of the dash a year ago. I love that car though, got rear ended by a Semi, and it only cost the insurance company 1500 to fix it. I can't wait to get something more economical though, and put her in storage.

Hey what does FD mean. Is that just a referal to a chassis code?
Toyota should never have stopped the Celica program.

assad_l
11-29-2005, 10:23 PM
i dunno what fd is all i know that its the newer rx7's with the dark tail lights, and fc is the series 4 rx7, i think. correct me if im wrong.

orestes
11-29-2005, 11:32 PM
well i like supras and mr2's but they havent made them for dayyyyyyyyys their only excuse for a sports car since like forever was the CELICA... GAYYYY.....im talking current day, Honda > Toyota

slideways...
11-29-2005, 11:58 PM
hahah no unless you count acura, the civic SI, both the 03 hatch and the new coupe, is a JOKE.
honda doesnt even use double wishbones anymore. and the nsx is gone. the only cars honda makes worth buying at all are the rsx-s and the tsx.
toyota, given that it doesnt have any more true sports cars, still is more reliable and better in every way. and the is300 > rsx > tsx. and when the supra comes back, toyota will own honda in every category. lets just hope that honda releases the civic type R or integra type R, or when the NSX replacement comes out itll be better.

Mojo_stevo
11-30-2005, 12:15 AM
They new Si has a good power plant, but lacks in everything else. Too little too late. Their beloved Si died in 00'. The prelude was alright, but that thing is gone. If Yoda comes back with the Supra looking good, and running like it used to, they will be born again hard. A hard top / t-top MR-2 would be neat to see again aslong as long as it didn't resemble the MR-S in any way. The only problem with MR-2's is that they insurance companies rape you, and so does the price. I liked the last year Celica GTS. The low budget import is dead for now, no more Del Sols, Civics, 240's, Celica's, or Eclipses, those companies don't think like that anymore. Does the 24K to 40K dollar cars of today even match in timeline comparision to the cars of yesterday? ( like if today was 92' and we where all jazzed about the new RX-7, 300zxTT, and Supra TT) I dunno. Kinda sad what happened to the market. But who know's, The January car show is around the corner, maybe there is some hot shit on the rise. I know when I went to the Nissan design studio on an invite, I saw some pretty baddass prototypes for the next 350, Maxima, and that pocket rocket on page one...

orestes
11-30-2005, 12:47 AM
type R DC5 is coming. i think the new Si is sick. the hatch sucked. tsx, tl, rl, all are nicer than is300 (my opinion), although the new IS's do look a lot better i still like the acuras more. although tsx seems like it would be hella slow.

ok and saying toyota is more reliable and better in every way??? ur opinion....where are some facts that toyota is more reliable???

and new supra, is that going to be under Lexus in the US? thats what i remember hearing. in that case thats like the price of 2 or 3 ITR's...

and what about the new Si is a joke? first civic ever w/ LSD, and i personally realy like the looks and the interior

slideways...
11-30-2005, 05:20 PM
type R DC5 is coming. i think the new Si is sick. the hatch sucked. tsx, tl, rl, all are nicer than is300 (my opinion), although the new IS's do look a lot better i still like the acuras more. although tsx seems like it would be hella slow.

ok and saying toyota is more reliable and better in every way??? ur opinion....where are some facts that toyota is more reliable???

and new supra, is that going to be under Lexus in the US? thats what i remember hearing. in that case thats like the price of 2 or 3 ITR's...

and what about the new Si is a joke? first civic ever w/ LSD, and i personally realy like the looks and the interior

1. good

2. i forgot about the TL. TL > IS > TSX

3. the tsx is kinda slow from the factory but it is one of the last hondas with double wishbones and the motor is very buildable.
and it looks soooo good

4. yes its my opinion, based on the fact that honda no longer uses any of the technology that made their reliability famous. they are trying to be more upscale, and the result of this is they use completely different parts for some unknown reason.

5. the new supra is probly gonna be a lexus, and its gonna be 10 times faster than an ITR.

6. the new si? slower than the 00 coupe. 196hp is not alot when it has to push around 2850lbs. and it has gay mcpherson struts in front, just like all the other civics. granted the LSD and the motor are actually good but its not enough

Mojo_stevo
11-30-2005, 07:54 PM
What is an ITR? For the price of the new Si, I would rather spend a few bucks more and just go for the RSX. The TSX is a 200 hp 4 banger, front puller right? If I'm mistaken, for 700 bucks less you can get a V6 accord with 40 more hp. I know it's not as sporty or good looking, not sure about weight either. As for the civic's I could care less, I lost interest in them a while ago. If I had to chose, my fav is the the under powered 1st/5th gen civic coupe. But like I said I'm just gonna get a 95-98 Maxima. Rode in my friends, and that 190 HP v6 aint too shabby behind the 5spd, and it's a comfy. It'll get me to school and work, that's all I need right now.

Hit_N_Run-player
11-30-2005, 07:57 PM
well when i talk about a car company being good, im not just talking about sports cars, there has to be more than that to vehicles. What about a family car? My parents are thinking about buying a Rav-4 becuase they have been looking on weekends for a while now at various SUV's and they have pretty much ruled out the Nissan and Honda SUV's they have looked at. My mom was going to buy a matrix, but she said it was too slow (like 1.6L i think?) and she like the size of the Toyota Rav-4, and the 2.4L felt pretty powerfull to her.

240SXSlideStar
11-30-2005, 08:12 PM
Toyota is reliable and boring, Lexus is a Toyota rapped with leather and a million pounds of sound deadening.

Mojo_stevo
11-30-2005, 08:28 PM
Those cars are cool and all, but nothing can touch this rally Honda, STi awanabe: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2189834
HAHAHAHAAAAAA

zacremacle
11-30-2005, 09:04 PM
that car is ruined! I cant beleive he painted his interior yellow and then put blue seat covers on. that is the worst part about the car.

Mojo_stevo
11-30-2005, 09:17 PM
Isn't that thing just a cry for help lol.

I hate the hood.

Pavlo
11-30-2005, 09:21 PM
Cannot believe the S2000 wasn't mentioned. It is a Very nice sports car. RWD, small, all aluminum body, handles like a dream and is pretty damn fast when keeping it in the high rpms. I like it a lot more that the RX-8, which disappointed me when I drove it. Expected it to be a lot faster.

orestes
12-01-2005, 12:01 AM
^^^ agree

and that Civic was a gigantic waste of time and should be destroyed.

Skylindrftr
12-01-2005, 12:11 AM
I can't believe he did that to an rhd accord...some people...should go and die

slideways...
12-01-2005, 12:46 PM
well when i talk about a car company being good, im not just talking about sports cars, there has to be more than that to vehicles. What about a family car? My parents are thinking about buying a Rav-4 becuase they have been looking on weekends for a while now at various SUV's and they have pretty much ruled out the Nissan and Honda SUV's they have looked at. My mom was going to buy a matrix, but she said it was too slow (like 1.6L i think?) and she like the size of the Toyota Rav-4, and the 2.4L felt pretty powerfull to her.

you should tell them to look at a subaru forester. my parents wanted something to replace their minivan so they looked at a CRV, and other stuff but ended up buying a forester and the absolutely love it. its a nice car, especially for what they need. (and in the winter)

slideways...
12-01-2005, 12:51 PM
Cannot believe the S2000 wasn't mentioned. It is a Very nice sports car. RWD, small, all aluminum body, handles like a dream and is pretty damn fast when keeping it in the high rpms. I like it a lot more that the RX-8, which disappointed me when I drove it. Expected it to be a lot faster.


sorry, the s2000 is the best honda ever(besides nsx) but i dont mention it cause i cant fit in it. :p

Mojo_stevo
12-01-2005, 07:49 PM
sorry, the s2000 is the best honda ever(besides nsx) but i dont mention it cause i cant fit in it. :p

LOL, that reminds me: my best friend/cousin is 6'3 and 371. Well for like a month, a few years back, he really had this thing for CRX's... It was short lived.
Now he drives a more suiting car... a 1970 Malibu, that thing was a blast to build, came out purdy.

Chuki_breath
12-03-2005, 02:33 PM
yes toyota america sucks. Toyota japan >>>>>> honda. Honda is no for me. I dont care wtf it is. s2000 blows ass. Its not fast either. Tourqless wonder. Its just good in the twisties for a STOCK car. If the average joe blow bought one, they wouldnt use it for that anyway.

do research on toyota before you say they have nothing. I mean a 1jz in a family sedan?? Toyota chaser, soarers, altezza, mr2, supra, levin/trueno etc. Yea thats better than anything honda has ever created in the history of time....as far as cars sold to the public. The nsx has potential, but as far as a stock one, its a turd. Actually an nsx i would consider buying, but gee i wonder why??

orestes
12-03-2005, 05:48 PM
well yeah toyota obviously has the upper hand with all the turbo RWD cars and the stuff they do in Japan, also like around 98 yeah toyota was cool. i even liked the celicas that were turbo awd, like that one in Initial D i have no idea what the chassis code for it is but they were kinda cool, supras obvoiusly own, the chaser, soarer, etc. i love, i was simply talking present day in the US i think the Honda stuff is better.

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