s13 brake upgrade

ok with all the info i;ve gotten here i'm confussed. will the rotors of the s14 fit to the s13 and how hard is that swap and do the calipiers fit also . if they do than why do some use the rotors from a 300zx and also the calipiers.

USDM S14 brakes are exactly the same as the USDM S13 brakes. JDM S14 front brakes are like 300ZX fron brakes. They go to 300ZX fcalipers because the stock ones suck and the 300ZX one rule.

why do some use the rotors from a 300zx and also the calipiers.

hummm to STOP U BETTER then stock ?!?!

the Z32 brakes are for a 3300+ pound car... 240 is like 2600 lb figur it out..

USDM S14 brakes are exactly the same as the USDM S13 brakes. JDM S14 front brakes are like 300ZX fron brakes. They go to 300ZX fcalipers because the stock ones suck and the 300ZX one rule.
so if the s14 and s13 are the same brakes don't any companys make brakes for the s13 and s14 that are just as good as the stock 300zx and are probley easy to install on the s13 s14 cars?

so if the s14 and s13 are the same brakes don't any companys make brakes for the s13 and s14 that are just as good as the stock 300zx and are probley easy to install on the s13 s14 cars?

300ZX front brakes are so fucking easy to install on an S13 or S14 that even you could do it. The rears are a little tougher, well they are easy, but it's the handbrake that a bitch, but you don't need the rears, just get the front and the master cylinder and it'll be more then enough, the JDM S14 had 300ZX brakes up front and single piston brakes in back, I think bigger then USDM single piston rear brakes, but still single piston, so don't worry about it.

yeah front brakes are a bit easier but should take no longer than 2 hours for a rookie doing it...

300ZX front brakes are so fucking easy to install on an S13 or S14 that even you could do it. The rears are a little tougher, well they are easy, but it's the handbrake that a bitch, but you don't need the rears, just get the front and the master cylinder and it'll be more then enough, the JDM S14 had 300ZX brakes up front and single piston brakes in back, I think bigger then USDM single piston rear brakes, but still single piston, so don't worry about it.
master cylinder from a 300zx right? direct bolt on just like calipers?

thanks

I heard somewhere that the turbo 300zx had bigger brakes and there was some sort of clearance problem, or am I mistaken? Plus about how much would you be looking to spend if you were to buy the parts needed for the conversion? What is so hard about installing the handbrake?

yea i think the twin turbo 300zx does have bigger dunno by howmuch tho.

you ever think about doing the 300zx swap up front, and to upgrade the rears for a balanced feel steal the brakes from a infinity Q45, all you really have to do is trim the heat sheild, and re-drill the rotors, otherwise they'll bolt right up

What do you mean by a more balanced feel? if you upgraded the front an back brakes off of a 300zx isn't that what your supposed to feel?

sorry i read the thread wrong for a second it sounded like only the front was being done and with 300zx brakes

it was, and with the mbc the feel will be alright. Dont worry about the rears.....

i think there are 26mm iron 300z's and 30/32??(cant remember) TT 300z aluminum's. The 26's should bolt right up with no fitment issues....i think lol. Cant remember correctly. But there is lots of info already out there on this, just do a basic search on this and other forums. Should come up with every answer you could possibly want after that.

All 300ZX brakes up front will have fitment problems with stock wheels, but a 5mm spacer takes care of that, but on most wheels that don't suck, there's no fitment problem. The parking brake is hard because the 240 has a disc parking brake and the 300ZX uses a drum. Master cylinder bolts up if you have ABS, if you don't you can make it fit, but I dunno how.

Ok so a little work for the front an your fine with the 300zx brakes up front. Would it be easier to use the Infinity Q45 brakes in the rear (does it have a disc parking brake)? I'm assuming that you'd have to re-drill the rotors to make em 5 lug? Could you just use the 300zx rotors with the Infinity rear brake setup so you don't hove to drill anything?

Fronts do 70% or more of the breaking, it is unreasonable to change the rears, unless you want looks. Just get good pads and new lines.
300ZX NA and TT both have the same size breaks iirc. Except the early ones (90-91 i think) wich had 26mm aluminum caliper, lighter but were replaced by iron ones due to aluminum ones being unstable under high temperatures (don't know the word for that). On 240s aluminum once would be perfect, lighter and lots of stopping power for such a car.

the early ones (90-91 i think) wich had 26mm aluminum caliper, lighter but were replaced by iron ones due to aluminum ones being unstable under high temperatures (don't know the word for that). .

hummm MELTING POINT is the word ur looking for..

I doubt the calipers would melt....

the rotors will WORP

[QUOTE=Pavlo]Fronts do 70% or more of the breaking, it is unreasonable to change the rears, unless you want looks. Just get good pads and new lines.

yes i agree, because thats exactly what i did, people argue that it makes the car unbalanced, but like u said it is unreasonable to change the rears, unless u are a pro and race on the track all the time, but u would probably get better brakes than 300zx brakes anyways if u were pro....Also, it is a good idea to get the 300zx master cyclinder to get the BEST use out of the new brakes!

the rotors will WORP

You mean warp? And how does the kind o fmetal used in the caliper determine if the rotors can withstand heat?

You mean warp? And how does the kind o fmetal used in the caliper determine if the rotors can withstand heat?

think about it, aluminum is not stable under high heat, if the caliper deform "temporally " under high stress and heat, the result will be a micro change in the surface it makes contact with the rotor. as a result if the session of high heat continues, the breaking will suffer and you will decrease the effectiveness of the break system.

hot steel (the alloy metal that is used in making the calipers) will not deform as much as Al calipers. coool?

BTW, the diff is relevent olly at EXTREEEEEEM stress, ie TRACK days

Ok then.

http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm

just thought that i would post that, i think it was posted a long time ago

but it is still useful so here

Yes, thank you, warp. I read that the caliper itself actually warps, along with the disc. But for a light car it is no problem, unless you are hardcore racer, but again if you are you at least will have all around skyline brembos on.

Or you can just get a 5-lug swap, depends on how much money you have (me, I don't have any)