'86 200sx turbo

drove by a local dealer today... found an extremely clean 200sx turbo. 2.0L... 5-speed. approx 130k on it... interior and exterior are immaculate. drove the car and i was highly dissapointed. the boost gauge didn't work, the speedo didn't work... fuel gauge didn't work, clutch was about gone, and on top of that, the car was a turd! i know there had to be something wrong with it because i came back and pointed out all the things wrong with it and the dealer quickly knocked $1000 off of the sticker (down to $1400)... what were these cars rated HP wise because i know that lil car with a turbo 2.0L should have laid some mad tire. dont' get me wrong it ran fine... it would chirp the tires on the 1-2 change, and on the 2-3 change (Barely) but i was just dissapointed. anybody have any advice or help ?

its pretty old so you wouldnt expect it to be as fast as an s15 or s14 if i was you i would of got it, what car do you drive now?? if it a high powered car thats probably why you noticed a significant difference.

drove by a local dealer today... found an extremely clean 200sx turbo. 2.0L... 5-speed. approx 130k on it... interior and exterior are immaculate. drove the car and i was highly dissapointed. the boost gauge didn't work, the speedo didn't work... fuel gauge didn't work, clutch was about gone, and on top of that, the car was a turd! i know there had to be something wrong with it because i came back and pointed out all the things wrong with it and the dealer quickly knocked $1000 off of the sticker (down to $1400)... what were these cars rated HP wise because i know that lil car with a turbo 2.0L should have laid some mad tire. dont' get me wrong it ran fine... it would chirp the tires on the 1-2 change, and on the 2-3 change (Barely) but i was just dissapointed. anybody have any advice or help ?


Whats the problem? you think its a shitty car. Dont buy it.


If I had driven a S13 for the first time and had said "what a shitbox" I wouldnt have gotten one.

Whats the problem? you think its a shitty car. Dont buy it.


If I had driven a S13 for the first time and had said "what a shitbox" I wouldnt have gotten one.

Amen..

ive never driven an s13 ive only driven my mums comodore and my dads van my dads van is SSSSLLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWW my mums car goes pretty hard being a v6 at about 260hp, when i get in an s13 for the first time i wont be expecting much from it i think it will be a bit faster than my dads van so if its that slow it wont bother me ill be just as much in love with em as i am now even if they are slow....

The first time I drove a 240 with a KA I thought it was fast as hell, but everytime I drive it now it gets slower and slower...

I drive an 87 TII rx7 yeah its fast. i was just asking what the car was rated HP wise... because it couldn't have been much... even tho it was a turbo 2.0L

Just because it's a 2 liter turbo doesn't mean it;s has high horsepower, the S2000 was 240hp in a 2 liter, the SE-R SpecV is 175hp from a 2.5 liter, so it changes from car to car.

a quick guess for me would be about 150, thats the sohc isnt it?? see your rx7 probably has 260 or something thats more than 100hp most small cars have a lil over 100.

a quick guess for me would be about 150, thats the sohc isnt it?? see your rx7 probably has 260 or something thats more than 100hp most small cars have a lil over 100.


He's talking about an S12. I'll look around to see what the turbo specs on it are.

yea but he said he had an rx7 and i was just comparing them

yea but he said he had an rx7 and i was just comparing them


Yea but since you said it having 150hp, thats about what the S13's put out. Anywho, quick search here's all the engine's that came in the S12's. I think the FC's were more like around the 250hp range.


CA18ET
1.8 Litre Turbo
8 Valve Single Overhead Cam (SOHC)
Non Intercooled
T2 GarretTurbo
Engine Name: CA18ET
Design: Turbo, SOHC, Fuel Injected, Twin Spark Plug, 8 valve, 1.8L
Inline 4
Bore x Stroke: 83mm x 83.6mm
Compression Ratio: 8.0:1
Horsepower: 135hp @ 5200rpm
Torque: 132lb/ft @ 3200rpm
Redline: 7000rpm


FJ20E
2.0 Litre Non Turbo
16 Valve Double Overhead Cam (DOHC)
Engine Name: FJ20E
Design: DOHC, Fuel Injected, 16 valve, 2.0L Inline 4
Bore x Stroke: 89mm x 80mm
Horsepower: 150hp @ 6000rpm
Torque: 102lb/ft @ 4800pm
Redline: 7000rpm

Here are the other S12 engines that were available in the rest of the world.
FJ20ET
2.0 Litre Turbo Intercooled
16 Valve Double Overhead Cam (DOHC)
Engine Name: FJ20ET
Design: Turbo, DOHC, Fuel Injected, 16 valve, 2.0L Inline 4
Bore x Stroke: 89mm x 80mm
Horsepower: 190hp @ 6400rpm
Torque: 166lb/ft @ 4800rpm
Redline: 7000rpm

VG30E
3.0 Litre Non Turbo
12 Valve V6
Engine Name: VG30E (found in '87 and '88 "SE" trim cars in the USA)
VIN: JN1V...
Design: SOHC, Fuel Injected, 12 valve, 3.0L V6
Bore x Stroke: 87mm x 83mm
Compression Ratio: 9.0:1
Horsepower: 160hp @ 5600rpm
Torque: 168lb/ft @ 3600rpm
Redline: 6000rpm

CA20E
2.0 Litre Non Turbo
8 Valve Single Overhead Cam (SOHC)
Engine Name: CA20E
VIN: JN1P...
Design: SOHC, Fuel Injected, Twin Spark Plug, 8 valve, 2.0L Inline 4
Bore x Stroke: 84.5mm x 88mm
Compression Ratio: 8.5:1
Horsepower: 102hp @ 5200rpm
Torque: 116lb/ft @ 3200rpm
Redline: 7000rpm

what engines in the s12 i thought it was a ca20et

Thats all the engines used in S12's. There isn't any CA20s as far as I know, thats where the SR comes in.

FJ20ET
2.0 Litre Turbo Intercooled
16 Valve Dual Overhead Cam (DOHC)
Engine Name: FJ20ET
Design: Turbo, DOHC, Fuel Injected, 16 valve, 2.0L Inline 4
Bore x Stroke: 89mm x 80mm
Horsepower: 190hp @ 6400rpm
Torque: 166lb/ft @ 4800rpm
Redline: 7000rpm

there you go that must be it.
Shouldnt it be "DET" not "ET"?

wrong... Heres a quick recap on 200sx USDM RWD history...

From 1982-1983 the 200sx used the 222E with 102HP@5200rpm and 129ft.lbs@2800rpm.

From 1984-1985 the 200sx used the CA20E and CA18ET (turbo). The CA20E making 102HP@5200rpm and 116ft.lbs.@3200rpm. The CA18ET was making 120HP@5200rpm and 134ft.lbs@3200rpm.

In 1986 the 200sx used the CA20E and CA18ET (turbo). The CA20E making 102HP@5200rpm and 116ft.lbs.@3200rpm. The CA18ET was making 120HP@5200rpm and 134ft.lbs@3200rpm.

From 1987-1988 the 200sx used the VG30E, CA20E, and CA18ET. Here is how the different years went

1987----
-The CA20E was making 102HP@5200rpm and 116ft.lbs.@3200rpm.
-The CA18ET was making 120HP@5200rpm and 134ft.lbs.@3200rpm.
-The VG30E was making 160HP@5200rpm and 174ft.lbs@4000rpm.

1988----
-The CA20E was making 99HP@5200rpm and 116ft.lbs.@2800rpm.
-The VG30E was making 165HP@5200rpm and 168ft.lbs@3600rpm.
-The CA18ET was making 120HP@5200rpm and 134ft.lbs.@3200rpm.



Hopefully this clears everything up...

nice chart but do you have one for later models like s13 to s15?? what suprises me is the ca18et 120hp at 3200rpm, thats pretty good considering sohc and 3200rpm.

I typed all that myself...no i dont have one for S13-S14-S15. The closest thing i got for that is this i scanned out of a book i have.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cornelius540/KNOWYOURSR20DET.jpg

what does 0.80a/r compressor mean is that non turbo???

There are two basic sizes in turbochargers. You have the Trim (minor wheel diameter/major wheel diamter) and you have the A/R which is the area/radius. Its basically the area of the inlet scroll divided by the radius from the center of that area, to the center of the turbine shaft. The FI forum should help you learn turbos (not very in depth, but basics) This pic should help, follow what i said to the picture to understand it.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/13360turbo10-med.jpg


Whenever you hear A/R or Trim, it is mostly talking about a type of forced induction wether it be turbo or supercharger...

i get it a bit better now, but where is the non turbo models on that table?? what book have you got was the turbo info in that book aswell??

There arent any non turbos in that table... Thats why it says "Know you SR20DET"

The book was Sport Compact Car 'Engine and Driveline handbook'. Its not the greatest book, but it explains some stuff. It also covers basics on installing an SR...

cool now im going to spend about 5 hrs looking for ca18de and sr20de specs.....

the SR20DE's we got were in sentras and FWD 200sx's. Plus the NX2000 i think. We never got the SR20DET and most people never think of swapping in a non turbo SR into a 240 so thats probably why im not that familar with the engine..

i hope that doesnt mean theyre fwd in aus too ill cry but i will still get 1.

the 200sx FWD here is a 2door sentra...

http://images.securedwebform.com/stock/300/nissan/200%20sx/1998/2co.jpg

Im not talking about the S13 200sx.

awww thank god!!!!! i keep on gettin mixed up i aus s13's are 200sx's and 240sx hatch's are 180sx's.

+1 for Hit and Run
-1 for Assad but hes getting there i guess...

i dont get it..... why -1 for me?

I go on a 2 point system so instead of giving +2 to Hit and run i figure why not make you negative.

but why what did i do wrong apart flom learning something new??

sweet, i got 1+ kudo..

I go on a 2 point system so instead of giving +2 to Hit and run i figure why not make you negative.


lol :grinno:

lol :grinno:

yeah lol X2 :1:

can i :1: myself??
o well here we go :1: (to me bc 2.4L -1'd me)

Im keeping score and you cheated thats 5 yards back for you which means your at -6 now to Hit n Runs +1....One more goof up like that and your getting a yellow card. And ill prob make up some BS rule why you lose points for the yellow card too so good luck.

Yea thats right in this situation yardage = pointage.

On another note dont touch my scoreboard.... if your gonna cheat make yourself 100....

Score is now:

Hit n Run: +1
Assad: -6

Trix are for AZNs!....(awesome Dave Chappelle skit)

EDIT: Nothing wrong with learning congrats on that. Just i want to have fun while you have fun learning that is all.

aww so ya wanna play like that my scoreboard:
2.4L of Torque: -2

Mad Real World(1 white guy in with 6 black ppl) (best dave chappelle skit)

"hey brad lets get one thing straight you sit down when you pee, i catch you standing up and imawoop your ass"

"hey brad lets get one thing straight you sit down when you pee, i catch you standing up and imawoop your ass"
wtf?

WHAHHAHAHAH
+1 for the random dude...

I had to give myself my points back...you cant have a scoreboard? Stealing a scoreboard from someone is 15 yards in the oppostie direction please sit down. I gave you some advice...why dont you cheat right and make me -(at least something greater then 100). guess what you screwed up again and that means you get a yellow card which is only -1 point but whatever thats a total of -16 points this round good luck in the future.

Score:
Hit and Run: +1
Infantmutalization: +1
2.4L of Torque: 0
Assad: -22

hay J-SWIG ?r u folowing this shit? WTF?

Tattle tale...noone likes a snitch.

-22!!!!! damn im gonna have to update my scoreboard!!!
2.4L: -84354926589036583623906357325398553278923542345237 454523784523478957812354236

well its a 2.0L ... non-intercooled SOHC 4-cylinder. my 7 is only about 160~ horsepower. but it'd whack any honda i run into .... lol

i'm not seeing any motors in those lists that match what i saw in that car....

I think its jsut the fact that you are so used to other higher powered cars. And obviously something was wrong with the car. So maybe it wasnt to its full potential.
2.4L: -84354926589036583623906357325398553278923542345237 454523784523478957812354236

Once again you stole a scoreboard but maybe your jsut saying you have one its just a "psuedo" one...and you put a space in the number. So as far im concerned that number doesnt exist. Nice try though.

i dunno what happened with the space.... i tried to edit it but there was no space...