best of d seires?
GoRi
11-23-2005, 01:21 AM
Ok i kno not alot of people dont like the d-series engine but its what im goin to start with. I wanted to know which d-series engine would be good for NA. I remember reading a post saying that it can push 200hp. Is this really possible? Im starting to save up money for mods an i have around $2500 right away. This will be my first project car so i wanted to start with something small.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
GoRi
11-23-2005, 01:31 AM
I forgot to mention i drive a 94 civic coupe. Also what would be a good tranny for it?
Przemir4g
11-23-2005, 02:32 AM
the best will be D15B from Japan - stock 130hp my friend with new cams has more than I have from B16A1 and he is fastest than me /my best et for 1/4 14,5/ if u need more info let me know
GoRi
11-23-2005, 07:24 AM
o0o0o but can it push 200hp? if yes what would you need to do to it?
GoRi
11-23-2005, 07:25 AM
And where will i be able to get one of those engine because i dont see them anywhere online?
GoRi
11-23-2005, 07:30 AM
Plus is there a better tranny for it from another d-series or not?
GoRi
11-23-2005, 07:31 AM
Sorry for so many questions.
Przemir4g
11-23-2005, 10:40 AM
200HP? ITB, cams, fuel managment, spark man.., hondata 300 or something to talk with ECU :D and no problem
in poland one company sells stuff from japan - trie on google in japan
"better tranny" what U meen ?
in poland one company sells stuff from japan - trie on google in japan
"better tranny" what U meen ?
Schister66
11-23-2005, 12:10 PM
why not boost....more power than that and less cost....
www.turbod16.com
www.turbod16.com
alphalanos
11-23-2005, 12:28 PM
The stock d16 is good for around 180hp or so. (thats all i would put into it anyway) however built I have seen as high as 400-450. I highly recommend you consider going turbo.
GoRi
11-23-2005, 01:35 PM
I heard closer gear ratios are better for NA engines or something like that so which one out of all the d-series transmissions is good? I know turbo will give me alot of power but you dont see many all motor d-series around here so itll be something interesting to do you know.
Schister66
11-23-2005, 01:53 PM
you don't see many all motor d's because they cost a lot and don't make a lot of power....if power's what you're looking for, then boost is your friend!
CivicSpoon
11-23-2005, 02:01 PM
There's a reason why you don't see too many all motor d-series. It's just not worth it when you could put OE Honda parts (ITR and CTR) into a b18c1 and easily make more power, without having to resleeve or pay for expensive aftermarket cams etc. But it's your car and your $, so you should od what you want and not what others say.
There isn't 1 out of the D-series that is best. I guess you could say the d15b vtec LSD tranny is best, only because there was an option for a factory LSD. Other than that, the '92-'95 Si, '92+ EX's (Coupes specifically), and the d15b vtec have pretty much the same gearing (I'm pretty sure they are exactly the same).
There isn't 1 out of the D-series that is best. I guess you could say the d15b vtec LSD tranny is best, only because there was an option for a factory LSD. Other than that, the '92-'95 Si, '92+ EX's (Coupes specifically), and the d15b vtec have pretty much the same gearing (I'm pretty sure they are exactly the same).
GoRi
11-23-2005, 02:07 PM
Thanks for the info guys
civickiller
11-23-2005, 02:45 PM
to get higher hp from a sohc d. you need to have that motor sleeved and bored 12:1 cr. the biggest cam you can run with those high comp pistons. one of those $800 dollar equal length header. itbs would be the best for power, p&p head. and of course the most important part, a really good tune. how high you cr can go is related to how high of an octane gas you have available
GoRi
11-23-2005, 11:27 PM
Whats "itbs"?
GoRi
11-23-2005, 11:47 PM
Well i can get 93 octane at the pump and i heard some gas stations have 94 octane. How high can i get the c/r?
civickiller
11-23-2005, 11:49 PM
individual throttle bodies - itb
i think 11.5 or 12 should be able to handle 93
i think 11.5 or 12 should be able to handle 93
GoRi
11-23-2005, 11:59 PM
Again thanks for the info!
SiGNAL748
11-24-2005, 12:35 AM
ZC anyone? aren't those technically d-series too?
Schister66
11-24-2005, 01:46 AM
did you know that there's an AWD d-series tranny.....wouldn't that be fun :devil:
It was in an older JDM integra...i think it was called the LXI...not quite sure
That would be fun to get ahold of....
It was in an older JDM integra...i think it was called the LXI...not quite sure
That would be fun to get ahold of....
Przemir4g
11-24-2005, 02:16 AM
AWD in Europe was also in honda shutlle - in this car my friend has a d15b!!
If u like to go in n/a in my opinion d15b /jdm/ is thabest if U like turbo D16 is greate
b16 have too stay n/a :biggrin:
if u think u`ll have 200hp cheap - U are funny /sorry/- even turbo is not cheap and this will be the cheapest way to have 200hp
in poland there is a few d16z6 d16z9 with turbo /roud 250hp/
If u like to go in n/a in my opinion d15b /jdm/ is thabest if U like turbo D16 is greate
b16 have too stay n/a :biggrin:
if u think u`ll have 200hp cheap - U are funny /sorry/- even turbo is not cheap and this will be the cheapest way to have 200hp
in poland there is a few d16z6 d16z9 with turbo /roud 250hp/
Schister66
11-24-2005, 11:09 AM
turbo w/ the AWD tranny.....
CivicSpoon
11-24-2005, 11:17 AM
did you know that there's an AWD d-series tranny.....wouldn't that be fun :devil:
It was in an older JDM integra...i think it was called the LXI...not quite sure
That would be fun to get ahold of....
There's a '92-'95 4dr as well
It was in an older JDM integra...i think it was called the LXI...not quite sure
That would be fun to get ahold of....
There's a '92-'95 4dr as well
Przemir4g
11-24-2005, 11:49 AM
There's a '92-'95 4dr as well
true - RTSi (4dr AWD) - D16A9 engine
true - RTSi (4dr AWD) - D16A9 engine
Schister66
11-24-2005, 12:24 PM
i wonder why people haven't really done any AWD swaps on a Civic or something....
CivicSpoon
11-24-2005, 08:23 PM
Well if it was the D-series/ZC AWD, then it'd be worthless. I'd assume (Disclaimer - I have no knowledge so this is only an assumption) that you'd have to do some cutting of the chassis for the driveshaft and rear axle. And the drivetrain won't be able to handle too much power over stock (maybe bolt-ons). But for AWD in general, I saw a Civic online with a 4G63 swap done that's supposed to be AWD.
GoRi
11-24-2005, 10:53 PM
if u think u`ll have 200hp cheap - U are funny /sorry/- even turbo is not cheap and this will be the cheapest way to have 200hp
in poland there is a few d16z6 d16z9 with turbo /roud 250hp/
I know NA is not cheap but it is what i would like to do.
in poland there is a few d16z6 d16z9 with turbo /roud 250hp/
I know NA is not cheap but it is what i would like to do.
Schister66
11-24-2005, 11:20 PM
well have fun w/ that, but its going to cost a lot and you're not going to see a lot of power....
eurobeaner
11-25-2005, 08:58 AM
i thought the zc dohc tranny has the shortest gears... any d series tranny, or zc (same difference) will fit on a d series... my buddie has a dohc zc and its only quick ause the tranny.... BUT! it is cable clutch instead of hydrolic...
Przemir4g
11-28-2005, 03:42 AM
my friend made this - mayby will help a little bit
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3374/civicprzelozenia6ed.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3374/civicprzelozenia6ed.jpg
CivicSpoon
11-28-2005, 12:05 PM
Very cool, but I do see 1 problem. The '92-'95 CX and VX don't have the same gear ratio, the CX is even longer than the VX.
Przemir4g
11-29-2005, 06:39 AM
plss dont use CX/LX/VX its names from USA /i think/ use engines codes :D - so one more time plss heheheh
Kuntry_Boi06
11-29-2005, 09:21 AM
go to homemadeturbo.com and turbod16.com that is where your power is my friend forced induction,
if you wanna be different then dont drive a honda.
if you wanna be different then dont drive a honda.
CivicSpoon
11-29-2005, 10:48 AM
plss dont use CX/LX/VX its names from USA /i think/ use engines codes :D - so one more time plss heheheh
Ok... then the D15B8 and D15Z1 don't have the same gear ratio.
Ok... then the D15B8 and D15Z1 don't have the same gear ratio.
turtlecrxsi
12-05-2005, 03:04 PM
Why do people say d series N/A is pointless? It is certainly NOT. I bought a headache car 3 years ago with a nicely built d16a6 engine with high compression. I drove it around on premium gas with the aftermarket cam gear timing advanced 2 degrees with the cam for a whole year. Then it just went byebye bang. Obviously, I didn't know what the hell I was doing, but a whole freakin year on an engine that burned lots of oil so it probably didn't have full compression capacity and was beat on a lot. Oh yeah, and I was running the whole time with a code 1 flashing and didn't realize it. This guy with an "under construction" b16 body kitted crx said he had more hp than me and then I spanked him from a red light drag, but suffered the ricer fly by. Anyway, after I blew that motor I swapped all bolt-ons to a stock d16a6 including my cam and learned to appreciate the reliablity more so than the power. Hell, I never even realized my ECU is chipped. And yeah, it makes power all the way to 8000 rpms. Fun stuff and no vtec neither...
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