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Bravada 97
11-22-2005, 09:19 PM
I am thinking about getting new headlights for my 97 Bravada. I was wondering if these will work or if anyone had tried them in their vehicle before.

The light bulb: Blue 9006
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7972946479&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

The 4x6 Diamond Back Headlight conversion:
http://www.slickcar.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=1031

Also I see that the bulbs are listed as "8500K H.I.D." What exactly does the number mean? I guesssed that the higher the number the brighter the light?

Thanks for any info.

SComp23
11-22-2005, 09:34 PM
No, do not get those. 8,500K is a color rating, and actually the brightest light available in automotive lighting is HID, which is 4,300K. And do NOT get the APC conversion, I got them for my Dad once and took them back the next day, the output is horrible! If you just want a simple halogen conversion, get some E-Code conversion 4x6 headlights from a seller named riimc I believe off of ebay, and some high-output philips bulbs, or even some silverstars, or get an upgraded headlight harness and some high-powered bulbs.

Bravada 97
11-22-2005, 09:51 PM
No, do not get those. 8,500K is a color rating, and actually the brightest light available in automotive lighting is HID, which is 4,300K. And do NOT get the APC conversion, I got them for my Dad once and took them back the next day, the output is horrible! If you just want a simple halogen conversion, get some E-Code conversion 4x6 headlights from a seller named riimc I believe off of ebay, and some high-output philips bulbs, or even some silverstars, or get an upgraded headlight harness and some high-powered bulbs.

Thanks for the help SC. I didn't know that diamond back headlights had poor output. Being that they are common on most new vewhicles I figured it would be a better choice than my factory lights.

I will look into the headlights and bulbs you listed. Are the Phillips bulbs white/blue in color like HID lights?


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SComp23
11-22-2005, 10:24 PM
No the philips ones are just extended life ones with a bit higher output. Try you find some HIR bulbs on ebay or some Osram Silverstars. The Sylvania ones are sweet, but the Osram ones are a bit better and sole only over in Europe, so check on ebay for them. Also check the conversion lights I spoke about from ebay, if you cant find them, IM me on SComp23.

Bravada 97
11-22-2005, 11:16 PM
Thanks SC, I found that seller on e-bay and found these two styles of headlights:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-HID-EURO-DIAMOND-CRYSTAL-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQitemZ8016325142QQcategoryZ33710QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

and:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQitemZ8016281823QQcategoryZ33710QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

SComp23
11-22-2005, 11:23 PM
Yes Sir, get the ones with the clear lens not the fluted ones, the first link you posted. I bought these for my Dad and was very pleased with the output, you will notice a huge difference in the output!

Bravada 97
11-22-2005, 11:32 PM
Yes Sir, get the ones with the clear lens not the fluted ones, the first link you posted. I bought these for my Dad and was very pleased with the output, you will notice a huge difference in the output!

Right on! I am going to e-mail the seller and see if he has any available for a 97' Bravada. Thanks again for the help.


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s10blazerman4x4
11-23-2005, 12:14 AM
And im correct to presume that these are plug n play for the first gens like my 91?I have been waiting for a recommendation to buy some new headlights for awhile.

BlazerLT
11-23-2005, 03:35 AM
I am thinking about getting new headlights for my 97 Bravada. I was wondering if these will work or if anyone had tried them in their vehicle before.

The light bulb: Blue 9006
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7972946479&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

The 4x6 Diamond Back Headlight conversion:
http://www.slickcar.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=1031

Also I see that the bulbs are listed as "8500K H.I.D." What exactly does the number mean? I guesssed that the higher the number the brighter the light?

Thanks for any info.

I have them installed in my low and my high beams (9005) and I absolutely love them.

Bravada 97
11-23-2005, 12:27 PM
I have them installed in my low and my high beams (9005) and I absolutely love them.

BlazerLT, are you refering to the bulbs or the bulbs and headlight?

I contacted the e-bay seller about the lights that SC recomended but he only carries them for the 91-94 Bravada. It looks like i may be outta luck. The link ot those is below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-HID-EURO-DIAMOND-CRYSTAL-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQitemZ8016325142QQcategoryZ33710QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

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Gabe25
11-23-2005, 01:12 PM
BlazerLT, are you refering to the bulbs or the bulbs and headlight?

I contacted the e-bay seller about the lights that SC recomended but he only carries them for the 91-94 Bravada. It looks like i may be outta luck. The link ot those is below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-HID-EURO-DIAMOND-CRYSTAL-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQitemZ8016325142QQcategoryZ33710QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

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BlazerLT is refering to the bulbs. As for your car. You have a 97 Bravada and you just need to replace the bulbs as well. Unless your looking at replacing your whole light assembly. As for me. Those diamond backs are just what I'm looking for. Thanks SComp23 for the Links. :ylsuper:

SComp23
11-23-2005, 01:19 PM
The 97 Bravada has composite headlights don't they? I didn't think they had the 200mm sealed beams. If that is the case search for some clear reflector composites for the Bravada. Also, those are the lights I was speaking of, I bought a pair for my Dad and a pair for my brother, the beam pattern is perfect and a huge improvement over the sealed beams, you will not be dissapointed!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200m...Qcmd ZViewItem

Bravada 97
11-23-2005, 05:17 PM
The 97 Bravada has composite headlights don't they? I didn't think they had the 200mm sealed beams. If that is the case search for some clear reflector composites for the Bravada. Also, those are the lights I was speaking of, I bought a pair for my Dad and a pair for my brother, the beam pattern is perfect and a huge improvement over the sealed beams, you will not be dissapointed!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200m...Qcmd ZViewItem

My Bravada does have composite headlights. I could not find any clear reflector headlights but, I think just chaning my bulbs to a brighter white light as opposed to OEM bulbs should help a lot. I think I am going to go with the Sylvania SilverStar bulbs as they seem to be a popular choice like you said.

Would a xenon bulb be better yet? I saw some 9005 xenon in the store that were only about $13 each.


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BlazerLT
11-23-2005, 07:06 PM
just install the bulbs and you will be fine.

Just as a hint, I would keep the stock high beams and only replace the low beams.

SComp23
11-23-2005, 07:52 PM
Any bulb with a blue coating will actually be worse than a regular halogen. If they are Xenon and are clear, then yes go with those, if not, go with the Silverstars.

BlazerLT
11-23-2005, 08:51 PM
Any bulb with a blue coating will actually be worse than a regular halogen. If they are Xenon and are clear, then yes go with those, if not, go with the Silverstars.

No way, the ebay low beam bulbs are ridiculously bright.

i get flashed all the time from people thinking I have the brights on.

Then I turn the brights on to show them what they are messing with. I saw one guy almost go into the ditch I blinded him so bad when he flashed his highs at me.

SComp23
11-23-2005, 10:38 PM
Then they are aimed too high or are producing too much glare. HID lights are several times brighter than those blue coated bulbs, and I never get flashed, because there is no glare. If you are running a standard light bulb that is 55w and a blue coated bulb that is 55w, the regular un-coated bulb will outperform the blue coated bulb in terms of luminosity.

BlazerLT
11-23-2005, 11:11 PM
Then they are aimed too high or are producing too much glare. HID lights are several times brighter than those blue coated bulbs, and I never get flashed, because there is no glare. If you are running a standard light bulb that is 55w and a blue coated bulb that is 55w, the regular un-coated bulb will outperform the blue coated bulb in terms of luminosity.

I know what I see and I tested them out myself.

The bulbs are in a fixed composite assembly that is pre-aimed and cannot be adjusted.

The low beam bulbs are brighter than the stock variety and you should see how bright they are when compred to the stock light when comparing them in the dark.

SComp23
11-23-2005, 11:30 PM
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html

Many motorists have been confused by marketing claims for the blue bulbs, which falsely and incorrectly equate the blue bulbs' performance with the very expensive arc-discharge ("Xenon") headlamps found on top-line luxury cars. They have been led to believe that by replacing their car's headlamp bulbs with the blue-coated bulbs, their headlamps' performance will be increased. In fact, quite the opposite is true; their headlamps' performance is decreased by the use of blue bulbs.

It is a scientific FACT that the blue coating reduces usable light. And also, you can adjust composite headlights, I just did it today.

BlazerLT
11-23-2005, 11:49 PM
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html

Many motorists have been confused by marketing claims for the blue bulbs, which falsely and incorrectly equate the blue bulbs' performance with the very expensive arc-discharge ("Xenon") headlamps found on top-line luxury cars. They have been led to believe that by replacing their car's headlamp bulbs with the blue-coated bulbs, their headlamps' performance will be increased. In fact, quite the opposite is true; their headlamps' performance is decreased by the use of blue bulbs.

It is a scientific FACT that the blue coating reduces usable light. And also, you can adjust composite headlights, I just did it today.

They work great in my truck.

What year do you have?

SComp23
11-23-2005, 11:53 PM
98. There is a way to adjust almost every headlight however. While you may not be able to adjust the entire reflector portion, you should be able to manuver the entire headlamp.

BlazerLT
11-24-2005, 12:46 AM
98. There is a way to adjust almost every headlight however. While you may not be able to adjust the entire reflector portion, you should be able to manuver the entire headlamp.

Nope, my 1995 are different then yours and are preset and all you can do is screw them into place or remove them. No alteration of adjustment needed or required.

DaveLance
11-24-2005, 10:14 AM
On my 96 (with composite headlights), you can adjust the headlights with a torx head screwdriver (It's either a T10 or T15, I can't remember right now). The outer screw (nearest the fender) controls the up/down movement and the inner (nearest the grill) controls the in/out movement.

BlazerLT
11-24-2005, 10:26 AM
On my 96 (with composite headlights), you can adjust the headlights with a torx head screwdriver (It's either a T10 or T15, I can't remember right now). The outer screw (nearest the fender) controls the up/down movement and the inner (nearest the grill) controls the in/out movement.

Those two screws are not adjustment screws, they are the attachment screws.

Read the owner's manual and you will see how it tells you to remove those two screws with the rubber caps to remove the assembly.

DaveLance
11-24-2005, 10:31 AM
The screws you are refering too are hex head screws. I know which ones those are. The adjustments screws are different.

BlazerLT
11-24-2005, 03:47 PM
If you can show me them I would appreciate it.

Bravada 97
11-25-2005, 10:57 AM
just install the bulbs and you will be fine.

Just as a hint, I would keep the stock high beams and only replace the low beams.

I will do that. I noticed that the high beam bulb and may day-time running lights are the same bulb. I will put the 9006's in for the low beams.


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wolfox
11-25-2005, 12:10 PM
I adjust the lamps on my '95 by using the Torx headed bolts just inside the radiator support frame. BLT: you are going to find two sets of screws. The rubber coated ones that poke up with hex bolts behind the asembly are used to retain/remove the fluted, composite headlamps. Closer to the nose of the truck, you are going to find two holes in the rad support that will accept a Torx #15 for adjusting height and side to side aiming of the headlamp assembly. I'll grab you a photograph here in a minute, how's that sound?

Edit: Pictures are in:

As you know, this is the outside retainer by the fender well. (Photo taken from the passenger side of truck)

http://www.dreamchaos.org/~wolfox/outsideretainer.JPG

And the other retainer on the inside, facing the engine:

http://www.dreamchaos.org/~wolfox/insideretainer.jpg

Now look inside the fender to the front of the grille and between the radiator support. This is your outboard side adjusting screw for up and down adjustment:

http://www.dreamchaos.org/~wolfox/outside-up-down-adjustment.jpg

And again, look between the grille and the rad support to just the other side of your hex retainer bolt for the inboard side to side adjustment screw:

http://www.dreamchaos.org/~wolfox/inside-side-2-side-adjustment.jpg

BlazerLT
11-25-2005, 01:33 PM
awesome, thanks so much.

You won't have to adjust them if you just are installing bulbs.

wolfox
11-25-2005, 01:38 PM
That is correct. Even if you remove the lamp assembly for whatever you are doing, as long as you do not turn those Torx screws, bolting it right back in will restore the original geometry. Now the question here is, which is easier?

1) Removing the battery and Air cleaner to reach behind the composite lamps to change the bulbs?

2) Removing the retaining bolts and taking the entire composite assembly out to replace bulbs?

I have tried it both ways, and I can do either in about the same amount of time.

BlazerLT
11-25-2005, 01:41 PM
just remove the two long bolts with the rubber caps on them is so much faster.

Don't have to remove batteries or anything.

DaveLance
11-28-2005, 11:58 AM
If you can show me them I would appreciate it.

Sorry, I was away for the Thanksgiving holiday.

Wolfox, thanks for covering. :thumbsup:

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