STI VS Civic SI (Need some advice)

Okay I posted a similier question awhile back about STI vs EVO vs Ms6, and that narrowed down my choices to just the STI and Civic SI 06. Um Im not looking for a performance comparison honestly I know they are two totally different cars what I need to know is what you would do in this (good) situation.Basically Ive got 15k saved up for a car and I have two choices. I could either A. Get an 06 Civic SI and Fix up my 1990 240SX(SR20 Swap etc), or I could get a 06 STI and not touch my 240 for about four years. Ive weighed the pros and cons and in all honesty this is going to be the First and maybe last time I can afford a car at the STI's caliber. Plus this would be my daily driver. I live in a place where it does snow but yet I would be driving of 40 miles daily to get to and from school/work. People have told me "hey get the STI its balls fast and you only live once" other people say "Just get the civic even though hondas are slow you can make the 240 spank an STI" Im just trying to make the right choice because i dont wanna fuck myself over for the next five years since I would be financing either car. I have an integra now and its okay but I cant stand FWD, yet the civic gets VERY good gas mileage and handles(so I heard) like a S2000. Too sum it all up and to quit my bitching it comes down to this. Either take the fast road and have a fast car right out of the box, or take the safe route and get a civic and take a few months to build the 240? So what would you do?

Dude, you only live once. Drive the STI to the grave!

lol yeah I know right, welp just got off the phone with my insurance company "Yes Mr. **** your premium would increase by six thousand and four hundred dollars and thirty cents by the end of your term increasing your monthly payment to one thousand six dollars and fifty one cents", me"Wow yall are smoking crack", progressive "Sir Im not the one with all the tickets on his record" Me"Eh okay so how much for a 2006 Civic SI" Progressive "Do you have a vin number?" Me"Nope" them"Well doesnt look like we have any on file let me check*waits* okay we have five on file(Me thinking who the hell has these already) your premium would be reduced by one thousand two hundred and some odd dollars and your payments would drop to 689 dollars and ten cents a month" Me"Kay, bye" So yeah getting the civic or I may say fuck it and get a Sentra Spec V 2005 for 14.5grand brand spanking new and drop ten g's in the 240 or buy an S14. God damn insurance is a pain

BTW that was a damn good reply dude.

hm, sounds like you've already gotten into alot of trouble... and the sti would cost you more then it says it will, with the extra insurance.

i'd go with the civic. or wait for the rumored civic si sedan (http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=447127) next year and do some work on your 240sx now... unless you need that daily driver BEFORE doing the work.. in which case just get the civic.

i'd say get the 06 si and keep it bone stock as a daily driver. this way you won't moan when the 240 is down waiting for parts of is waiting for a tune or when it breaks.

trust me, even with a car like the STi you would not want to keep it stock for long. and hooking up an STi is not cheap. a turbo back cost around $1000, then you would need fuel management system so you won't blow your engine when it boost creeps to 20 psi in the winter. a UTECH will cost you around $800, and it would cost on average $150-200 per tune. its not cheap. insurance would rip your balls off. and your 240 is not gettin any younger so it won't make the best beater either.

i would get a sentra spec V for $15k like you mentioned above. payments suck, especially when trying to modify another car. trust me...

i have a 300zxTT and i bought a 2000 Grand Prix GTP as a DD while the 300zx was down. now, i wish i would have just bought something that i could have paid off. because even how minute the payment may be, it is still money taking away from the car you really want the money to go to.

if i were in your shoes i would sink some money into the 240sx and just buy like a $10k DD type car. a 5th gen prelude comes to mind, maybe a used WRX for a little more.

the options are endless but you will only regret getting another payment when trying to modify another car.

I certainly would not get a Spec V Sentra, they're just so boring, however that's just me. I can't stomach the thought of a sports car with FWD. If you're going to do the SR20DET swap to your 240, go ahead and do it, but I wouldn't tie up all your money into another car while you plan on doing a sr20det swap. I wouldn't look for another FWD car to replace your Integra with, because it's still going to torque steer in a straight line, and understeer like crazy in the corners. It sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too, but if you go through with this (nice car and a very expensive modification to your 240) you're gonna be broke in a hurry.

thanks for the responses guys, yeah Ive decided just too fix up the 240 and get the civic. Um I would keep my integra cause I do love the damn car except when I bought it I got screwed. It had been in a wreck, now has wiring probs(No running lights no horn no ABS) the suspension camber is all F"d up cause I swirved too hit a deer and wrecked it myself, yeah its a POS that has cost me WAY too much damn money. Its still quick as balls but cosmetic probs + all this other stuff and Im still making payments yeah its gotta go, oh yeah and I put a new tranny in it. And Ive thought about a prelude but yet again they cost too much for a used one and I really want something with less then 20K miles on it. And my benchmark for this next car Im buying is to be as fast as an Integra GSR with Mild Bolt ons. Oh and insurace is WAY too high on my integra. Before I wrecked it I was paying 850 a month with progressive. And this next car is a graduation/Transplant gift so my mother wont help me buy anything thats older then a 03. FYI: shes HELPING me with the new car not flat out buying it Ive been saving for a year and a half soooo yeah, any way thanks everyone for the advice.

does it have to be an STi? what about a regular wrx? i'm sure the insurance would be better and it's still got most of the potential that the STI has, espeically if you get a new one with the 2.5L.

well heres the thing about a regular WRX, I cant leg wize fit in it comfy. But for some reason Ive got just enough room in the STI. Im pretty sure the seats are different. Also Ive driven the normal WRX five times trying to convince myself "Your comfortable you can get comfortable" and also "The clutch isnt that bad dont worry about it" But I may reconsider since I want AWD idk. Also I HATE the pedal lay out with the stock wrx with those "race" pedals". The clutch and brake pedal feel too close together and I feel like my "area" gets squinched up. Also the gearbox feels shaky and imprecise and I woudlnt spend 26K on a base wrx so Ide be getting a 05 or a 04 and I cant stand how that engine feels. Its got power just alot of turbo lag and it has HORRIBLE engine response. But thats just my opinion. Still though Turbo AWD is hard too pass up. Imma have to go drive it again.

those are reasonable excuses. at least you've tested out your options. i'd go with the civic then, an STI just isn't that practical, especially with the insurance being so high, and a new SI is probably a bit faster than an SE-R spec-v. personally, i'd say fuck 'em all and get yourself a nice sportbike. it'll run in the 10's or better out of the box, get good gas mileage when needed, they're cheap on insurance and it'll cost 1/2 to 1/3 as much as a brand new car.

Yea but the bike is no good in the snow...

A lil late in your query...But I agree with what you are going to do

Sti is very nice powerful car and can be a daily driver, but insurance sees your age/sex and will murder you on insurance

Daily driver civic with a 240 to play with is a good call, I think we would all like a situation like that

If you're gonna get an STi, make sure you have the money to upgrade and maintain it, or you'll regret it. In your situation, I'd go with a nice, cheaper sport compact. The SE-R Spec V is junk, but the new Civic Si looks nice. Don't listen to the idiots ranting about insane torque steer and understeer, a well-tuned FWD vehicle (like a sporty Honda) can keep both to a bare minimum.

why not just get a 2dr EX civic or the SI and fix up the 240 for your fun car....????

Dude, you only live once. Drive the STI to the grave!

Hell yeah I agree!! :icon16:

lol yeah I decided too get the SI dude buuuuut a slight problem. My Honda dealer told me that since the car is in such high demand there will be a mark up charge more then likely meaning an SI with Navi would end up costing me around 23-24K. This kinda pissed me off seing as how thats Acura territory and in my stomach I dont feel right about buying a Civic for 24 thousand dollars thats not a TYpe-R. Its the principle, no one in there right mind should pay above or at MSRP for a car. It might be "worth" that much but if "HONDA" feels a car should be a certain price then by god damn Im not paying MORE then what "MSRP" is. But we shall see if all else fails Im just going to get a 2 door accord Coupe wtih the 6 Speed in it for 23K(Got a qoute through the internet sales manager) Which I find damn cheap for what u get, I mean I dont love the way teh accord handles but crap man thats too good of a deal. Also Ive gotten a mitsu dealership to agree too sell me an EVO 9 RS for 26.5 meaning Ide still have a starting point in funds for the 240 just not as much as I woulda had with the getting the civic and Ide be paying the fucker off for six years which Im not sure it would last me that long. Ah Im such an indecisive bastard. I in all honesty dont expect too have my cake and eat it too but as for new cars that I actually like, its almost non existant. Truth be told Ide rather have a 98 240SX wtih a Sr20 swap and that chassis mileage to be less then 50k. That would be a dream, of course that also doesnt exist. And people are selling S14's for prices as if the world is gonna end. But good things come too those who wait, its better too make smart educated decisions then dumb ones in life.

Why not get a used RSX-S for $15k and you save $8000 which can go towards the 240sx?

Why not get a used RSX-S for $15k and you save $8000 which can go towards the 240sx?
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And then you may not get raped by insurance. With those quotes you posted I'd simply quit driving...

lol yeah dude progressive sucks Im paying out my eye balls for insurance cause um, My first car at 16 and a 2001 Z28 Camaro and yeah that was totalled when I was 17, then got a 2 door 2000 Eclipse and go ta few wrecklass tickets 4 to be exact, suspended license etc. etc. got rid of that car now then got an Acura integra, deer ran out in front of me and I hit it and swirved and blah blah blah insurance found out even though they didnt pay a damn cent to fix the car, blah blah blah still sitting out there got a 2 door 240 and here I am at 20. But Im at +15 points but 12 of thsoe drop next year in the time period of like four months so Ill be good then. Any way just too let whom evers been reading these long ass posts, Im gonna just get the Civic if theres no mark up and I can get one before Jan cause Im moving out of my area to goto school and I need a reliable car(240's on its second engine and has some valve knock) but if there is mark up Imma get an EVO 9 RS, dealer gave me a qoute of 26.5k which is a grand below msrp so I figure hey thats a damn good deal too. And I really need/want awd, but ONly getting that if the civic is priced ppast 23K.

oh and damn about the RSX a type S would be more on insurance then the Civic SI and just 100 bucks less a month then the EVO, think I already mentioned that in an earlier post idk, but a RSX is very high on insurance due to it being a sports car and an Acura. Also even though its not as high theft as ANY integra its still pretty high up there. And RSX's are butt stank ugly, and Im never buying a Used Honda/Acura again. People dog these cars religiously, especially Vtec equipped. And I already have an Acura Integra with only 80K miles on it that Im selling so me getting an RSX in the 15k range with around 40k miles would defeat the purpose. And the RSX would end up being a base model any how. Plus that year RSX handle like ass. Ive driven one on some backroads and it had alot of bump steer. Like it would litterally jump abit if your in a turn.

Why not buy a car for 2G, put the other 13G into the 240 now and then when everything is done, sell the DD for 1800 and drive the 240?

im surprised no one suggested get a used 02 wrx...
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and you could pay it off at once, easy to modify, safe car so insurance wouldnt be as bad.

a sedan Si? is it rumored to have any kind of forced induction to compete with srt and cobalt?

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