I got a gift from god

I got my motor today. I ordered my h22 a couple weeks ago and it showed up today. I still need to get some parts like timing belt, water pump, intake manifold, throttle body, dizzy, and a couple other things but it should be in by febuary or somewere around there. Im going to use the d series adapter plate from bisimoto instead of the h2b one. The way i see it, i will be saving money ( no need for mounts or linkage ) i am going to upgrade my axles to 400 horse axles just so i dont have to worry about them. I want at least 12's all motor.

Sick man, I'd love to see how it turns out (some pics maybe a write-up? :worshippy). I considered doing this in a 5th gen with that bisimoto adapter plate.

not to bag on this but wouldnt isnt it hard to drive a h22 in a 4th gen?...dont know much about h and k what would really be a better swap?

define "hard to drive"

if speaking of complete H and K(with their own transmissions), a k would probally be better since they already have off-the shelf-mounts for them(but still requires some grinding to get it to work); but an H with a adapter would definantly be cheaper. If the H breaks that transmission, there are plenty of d-series transmission that you can get for cheap.

Also, the K and H are pretty similar, except the K has been "modified" more out of the factory so to say and spins a different direction. The 6-spd isnt too good because the first gear is almost useless(wheel spin). Ive read alot of problems about the K(mainly oil issues), so H would be more reliable when building the motor on a smaller budget. There are plenty of guys that have K's with spun #1 crank or rod bearings, tensioner issue(its oil driven), and a guy that managed to blow the piston tops(these are road course guys)...

never new there where adapter plates for these motors...anybody have a link to them?

you're saying that with with d series adapter plate, you can run all the stock mounts? i really dont think thats true....

We did a h22 swap into my buddy's crx and I wasnt really that impressed with it.

You crazy kid, i will have to come and take a look at it when i come back from colorado :biggrin:

I have never heard of a d series adapter plate for the H series. The only ones I know of are B series adapter plates.

http://www.bisimoto.com/wst_page10.html
There aren't any pics, or even much info on it; but it's definently real.

sw33t! glad to hear it got here. you know i can get you all those misc parts like timing belt for a little cheaper...we're an account with all our local parts store :naughty:

Ami, I bet I can getting parts cheaper than you through my school :smokin:

You have to make a custom driver side mount. The adapter plate allows you to use your stock linkage, axles and mounts. You need to cut around the crank pully and you need to shave a bit off the back of the block to allow for axle access. Probly the reason you wernt impressed with the h in the rex is you used the heavy h tranny with bad gearing. The d series tranny is much lighter and it is cable compared to the h series. www.bisimoto.com sells the d series plate and www.quartersportsdrag.com sells the b series one. By the way bisimoto was talking the d series kit which is cheaper is a little better because the d series trannys have stubbier gears and ferrous shift forks in the 86-89 tegs and the 96-00 ex civics. Yea i am deffinatly going to take some pictures. So far i havent seen a sedan with an h so i might be the first.

good luck dude.

here is some pics of the motor and my car.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/Photo001.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/Photo002.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/Photo005.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/Photo004.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/Photo003.jpg

And here is what is going in.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/hw001.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/h003.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/h002.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/hw003.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/hw005.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/hw004.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/hw006.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/Slipknotcraig133/hw007.jpg

Sorry for the pic quality the camera was junk.

That motor looks beat.

How does it look beat just because the valve cover paint is chipping. The way that i see it the motor is in good condition because on the intake side of the head the ports barly have any carbon. You can still see the bare port.

Yeah that's definently not beat. I don't recall ever seeing a used engine look that clean before (other than the valve cover). You can actually see the real color of the block, and not just caked on black/brown grease covering it. Maybe it's just the pics? My camera would make it a hell of a lot worse than that (the camcorder/digital camera combos are junk, at least mine is).

You can't judge a motor by the fact it looks clean. Give me 5 min and a pressure washer and it would look cleaner, doesn't mean it's good though. I would pull the motor (that way you can check for damage or anything) and replace the headgasket why it's out of the car.

BTW: I would trust Kris's eye anyday.

This motor is not going in until spring of next year. This motor is getting torn down to block and getting sleeved and completely balanced. I want this thing to spin 9 or 10k. Yes i know that it is an h22 but i feel that it can be done. With the machine work to let it flow, the edelbrock victor x intake maniold, 75 mm throttle body, pauter rods (yes i know they are expensive im not going to build a motor and throw a rod), mahle 11.3-1 pistons, knife edged and balanced crank, and a 6oz dh racing crank pully just to name some of the parts in line.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Going solely off those pictures, I would not buy that motor. It looks beat up to me. It's sitting there, with nothing covering any of the open holes in the head. Intake side is completly left open, not to mention the distributor hole, coolent ports, etc. Spark plug holes are wide open. (we'll assum the plugs are still in there though) The valve cover has been messed with, so that obviously means someone had it off. Why was it off, why did they paint it, what was the reasoning?

You can judge alot by the way a motor is taken care of on the outside. Granted yes, 5 mintures with a power washer can change things. But a close look at the motor will tell you if it has been power washed. When I get a car that pulls into the shop, that was a filthy engine bay, suspension areas, ect. I know its going to be a shitty job. These types of people obviously dont really take care of their cars. 9 times out of 10, their motor is thrashed the same way. Wiring is usually thrashed some how. But someone who truelly takes care of their cars, will go the extra mile when it comes to the small things. Engine bay is clean, wiring is done properly. Things are in there place.

So, you're doing all that to the block, and leaving the head untouched?

I said all the machine work to let it flow i.e p and p, oversized valves, dual valve springs, titanium retainers, cams, valve job, ect.

i took a pretty decent look at the motor the other day and everything looks good to go, but like he said hes taking it apart anyway and replacing everything so even if it was a bad motor to begin with by the time hes done it will be like new! good deal 4 the price he got it for...

damn ty, that motor is going to be a beast when you get it going with all that work, looking good so far man

After you rebuild the motor completely, that 4g4d will be a monster!

After you rebuild the motor completely, that 4g4d will be a monster!

Atleast in a straight line.

Atleast in a straight line.
Not true. My friend SCCA's his 5th gen (with h22a swap) every year, and beats everyone in his class. The understeer from the swap is over exaggerated by people who don't know any better (not ment to be a slam on you, it's a general missinformation thing that has spread on every forum I've been to).

But the understeer in a 4th gen is a lot different than that of the 5th.

That I wouldn't know, never really driven a 4th gen (only "drove" one once and it was the first time I ever drove a stick shift, so it doesn't count).

It probly will understeer a little but its not a huge deal to me i want it for 1/4 purposes. Im not really into the cornering all that much.

Oh shit. I have to do this now!

I hope the intermediate shaft on my DOHC ZC tranny doesn't interfere with the H22.

ZC tranny + D16A6 Si final drive + LSD + H22. Oh shit, I'm glad I read this. Fuck turbo ZC, the H is going in.

o please tell me that i can use a d16 intermediate shaft if so i am going to have an h22 1st gen crx