think i can beat this ticket?

i got pulled over for speeding :banghead: , the cop says "70 in a workzone 30" :screwy: . First off i couldnt be doin 70 when i just left the traffic light 50ft back :disappoin (my car is quick but not that quick), ive also been through the same spot everyday since then and still see no work zone sign or a 30mph speed limit sign :disappoin . So can i get this ticket thrown out just cuz its not even true about the work zone or speed limit? :uhoh:

Sounds like you are a victim of the imfamous cops-that-hate-on-imports. I'd do something about it now. Hell, I would have argued with the cop. He must have been a dick. I can't believe you accepted a ticket for 70 in a 30 from a 50ft. launch. Something doesn't sound right...

just go to court & plead not guilty. when you have to go back for your trial, tell the judge just what happened.
REMEMBER, in this country, you are innocent UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. just dont let the court intimidate you.
OR you could hire a lawyer to go to court FOR you. usually costs $125 or so, but your insurance wont go up cuz it wont go on ur record.

Sounds like you are a victim of the imfamous cops-that-hate-on-imports. I'd do something about it now. Hell, I would have argued with the cop. He must have been a dick. I can't believe you accepted a ticket for 70 in a 30 from a 50ft. launch. Something doesn't sound right...

ACCEPTED a ticket??????????????????????? WTF?

He didn`t have a choice. When`s the last time a cop asked you IF you WANTED to ACCEPT a ticket????

i dont think i can not except a ticket... "umm officer i wasnt speeding so im not gonna except this ticket" i dont think that would work. the spped limit posted is 40 and i was goin alittle faster then that but not 70, so im not saying i wasnt speeding, just sayin it wasnt 70 in a workzone 30. hope this works

go back and take pictures of the area showing that there is no work area speed limit 30 mph sign and then also take a picture of where you where pulled over and the stop light as well. tell the judge that you have a 4 cylinder car and that there is no way that it can excelerate to 70 mph in 50 ft

thats my plan already stevB, court date is tomorrow @ 630pm, i was pulled over in the same spot 2yrs ago for doin 80 in the 40 and got it dropped to 55 in a 40 with a lawyer and he cost me like $300. $125? give me this lawyers # and ill hit him off if he will come to Long Island NY. LOL

i dont think i can not except a ticket... "umm officer i wasnt speeding so im not gonna except this ticket" i dont think that would work. the spped limit posted is 40 and i was goin alittle faster then that but not 70, so im not saying i wasnt speeding, just sayin it wasnt 70 in a workzone 30. hope this works

Well, if you go to court, DON`T say "i`m not saying i wasnt speeding"
THAT incriminates yourself.
you werent given a ticket for speeding less than 70, you were given a ticket for 70,...... not 68, not 50, not 45.....,so DONT even throw that out there.that would be volunteering information NOT relevant to your case & would only hurt you.
JUST defend that you were NOT going 70(what you got the ticket for). thats what youre there for.

thats my plan already stevB, court date is tomorrow @ 630pm, i was pulled over in the same spot 2yrs ago for doin 80 in the 40 and got it dropped to 55 in a 40 with a lawyer and he cost me like $300. $125? give me this lawyers # and ill hit him off if he will come to Long Island NY. LOL

LOL, yeah, thats what a speeding ticket costs here in New Orleans(well, it did...courts here are destroyed now) to get a speeding ticket taken care of. i guess anything is more expensive in NYC.
& yeah, like the last guy said, TAKE PICS,& stress that you have a lil 4cyl car, thats very important!

Yeah. I didn't mean, don't accept the ticket. It's early give me a break. Jeez. I meant, the cop obviously had it in for you so there was no way of talking your way out of it. I've tried before and have gotten warnings and reduced tickets. Do like stated about the pics of the scene. If the court date is tomorrow then I'm guessing this happened awhile ago. If that's the case, the "work zone" could have changed by now...

Edit: Also, not to be an ass, but since you were pulled there before, that is on your record and it could be brought up as a "known history" situation. But plead not guilty and don't mention that you were speeding at all.

yes id like to film a 90sec on that section to show that there is no signs. Also like i said ive been driving that same section EVERYDAY before and since and still no signs, so nothing has come down or went up since. But would they throw it out cuz the ticket is written up wrong? My buddy got a drinking ticket in NYC, on the ticket is said he was drinking St. Ives instead of St. Ides which is losion or something so they threw it out. Im thinking the same thing applies here too.

Well by accepting the ticket you admitted to doing it. You should have denied the ticket and requested the supervisor come to the scene.

if that was the case then the world would be set up like in that movie "judge dread" but its not so thats why we have the court system, the supervisor would just say talk to the judge about it.

No when you call the supervisor out to the scene a report must be made stating your claim. Which will help you in court. Not to mention I have seen a few supervisors get pissed and dont want to be bothered and tell the officer to give them a warning.

go back and take pictures of the area showing that there is no work area speed limit 30 mph sign and then also take a picture of where you where pulled over and the stop light as well. tell the judge that you have a 4 cylinder car and that there is no way that it can excelerate to 70 mph in 50 ft
That is exactly what you will need to do. Take a ton of pics in those areas (the judge isn't going to sit through 5 minutes of video when he/she can just look at some pictures). Make sure to take pics of ALL signs as well. Technically the cops radar could have hit a sign and reflected off of someone else speeding, so he wouldn't have absolute proof that it was you that was speeding. Also read this: http://www.blurofinsanity.com/Speeding.html

thanx for the info, obviously its too late for the supervisor part but good idea. First off i didnt say a 5minute movie i said 90seconds (1 minute 30 seconds), which i can take from the light i started to the point i was "busted". I will just goin in tomorrow and if the cop shows up then i will just call for a delay telling them i need more time to get money for a lawyer, then next time ill tell them my lawyer couldnt make it and delay again. Ill try to repete that as much as i can till hopefully the cop doesnt make it in. we'll see and ill let yall know.

I don't know about your local laws, but here the officers front clip must be visible. If not then he cannot ticket you. Also if he doesn't ask if all the information on your license is correct you can get it thrown out.

well i dont think he asked if it was correct, but his frontend was visable from about 100yards maybe.

I would tell the judge:

"hey,look,I couldn't of been going 70mph,I was in a honda".......(jk)lol

Be like look judge heres the thing. I have 90 Honda Civic with a 1.6L SOHC non v-tec. I am only running OBD0 right now since I don't have enough money for a swap and to switch over to OBD1. The rev limiter on my PM6 OBD0 engine is 6500 RPM. My 60' track time in the 1/8th of a mile is 3 seconds. Now if I was clocked only 50' from the stop light.....ok well I will just stop there cause I doubt you'll get that far.

Well by accepting the ticket you admitted to doing it. You should have denied the ticket and requested the supervisor come to the scene.


WTF!!????? NOT!!!!!!! Who told you that????every cop when giving a ticket has to tell you that by signing that YOU ARE NOT ADMITTING FAULT. it`s just verification that you recieved the summons to go to court. You can`t refuse or"deny" a ticket. :rofl: If that were the case, then nobody would ever get tickets.DUH,...LMAO!

WTF!!????? NOT!!!!!!! Who told you that????every cop when giving a ticket has to tell you that by signing that YOU ARE NOT ADMITTING FAULT. it`s just verification that you recieved the summons to go to court. You can`t refuse or"deny" a ticket. :rofl: If that were the case, then nobody would ever get tickets.DUH,...LMAO!

QFT

the signature is a RoR, Release on your own Recognisance (sp), if you do not sign, they BY LAW have to take you to a judge (read: arrest your butt), since you wont promise to appear on the date below by signing the paper. that little slip is simply a notice to appear, nothing more.

-J

i didnt sign anything, LOL this mornin on my way to work(37miles away) on my second to last turn a cop decided to follow me, made my last turn down my shops block and he still followed me. I turned into the driveway and got out the car and watched him stop and turn around in front of the building as i laughed at him. "got nothin on me coper".

also i dont know if you have been to court yet but you can try to disprove the radar if it wasnt laser ask him when was the last time he was certified on radar is he currently good and when was the last time that the radar was check usually it is tuned with a tuning fork believe it or not since they operate on sound waves i believe it is either e flat or e sharp but use that also was there any other vehicles around if there was other vehicles around you can try to disprove him by asking him about his surronding showing that he doesnt have a good memory ask if he remebers if his window was up or down was his radio on as other questions that you can use to disprove him

WTF!!????? NOT!!!!!!! Who told you that????every cop when giving a ticket has to tell you that by signing that YOU ARE NOT ADMITTING FAULT. it`s just verification that you recieved the summons to go to court. You can`t refuse or"deny" a ticket. :rofl: If that were the case, then nobody would ever get tickets.DUH,...LMAO!

As I said if you could read. Thats the law here, I don't know the laws where he lives. My ticket read something like: I hereby acknolege ________ (<charges) on the ____, day of _____, ________.

I have been to court like three times here. After signing the ticket you admit to the charges, unless you want to change your plea and prove your case at a later date (trial)

STF up and drive, window goes up...

OK heres the update on the ticket situation. Tuesday i called my lawyer, 3 hours b4 court he called me back. I asked if i could get it thrown out he says maybe not thrown out but reduced. Well knowing that i can strike a deal with the DA i figured i would see what they give me and decide to postpone or take the offer. The DA says ill give u a 45 in a 30, thats a decent drop, sort of like the one i got last time for 80 in a 40 (busted in the exact same place) but they reduced to 55 in a 40. So i tell her, i wanted to get a lawyer then, she says well im gonna give him the same deal. Well then y pay 350 for a lawyer to get me the same deal as this so i agree to the charge. Judge finally sees me and is PISSSSSSSSSSED, he looks over my at least 2 page record and fines me..........$200........+ $55 court surcharge. $255? i got off easy and cheaper since i didnt add that extra 350 for a lawyer. Now i just have to wait and see if the state will impose a surcharge also, but then i heard its only if u have 6 points or more on ur lisense, which now i have 4 but will take defencive driving and get 3 points off. So theres my short store turned long. I appreciate all u guys input, and i hope u guys aint mad cuz i settled for a lesser charge but thats just what we do to keep things goin. If it was a matter of me loosing my license at that point then i definately would have fought the ticket, so i just have to keep like a nice driver for another 18 months.

Boy that sucks. At least you got it reduced. I thought 15 over was 4 points though. I guess all states are different. My dad's a driving instructor and I always thought the point spread was pretty much universal -10 = 2pts., 10-20 = 4pts., 20+ = 6pts./careless/reckless/jail...

it is i got 4 points for it but defencive driving will take 3 points off.

Well if you have a two page record maybe you deserve a to have to pay the ticket. $55 for court cost, ha you got off lucky. Court cost here is about $140.

hey u dont know me or my situation so dont be so quick to assume i deserve shit, but yeah i know i have a bad past but its all long ago but still shows up.