dex-cool
tmon103
11-11-2005, 05:21 PM
I'm confused,I thought Dex-cool was the latest and greatest coolant.Why is everyone flushing it out and going green?Should I do the same?
Tmon
Tmon
JCS44
11-14-2005, 08:42 AM
I'm confused,I thought Dex-cool was the latest and greatest coolant.Why is everyone flushing it out and going green?Should I do the same?
Tmon
This is a new one me. Everything I've read indicates that DEXCOOL is the latest and greatest, and more importantly, it is totally incompatible with the green stuff. You can't switch because there's just no way to totally flush the green stuff from every nook and cranny in the block. Stick with what came in it.
JCS44
Tmon
This is a new one me. Everything I've read indicates that DEXCOOL is the latest and greatest, and more importantly, it is totally incompatible with the green stuff. You can't switch because there's just no way to totally flush the green stuff from every nook and cranny in the block. Stick with what came in it.
JCS44
Mr. Smith
11-14-2005, 05:39 PM
I use dexcool with no problems, with proper maintenance. Thats the key.
I'm confused,I thought Dex-cool was the latest and greatest coolant.Why is everyone flushing it out and going green?Should I do the same?
Tmon
I'm confused,I thought Dex-cool was the latest and greatest coolant.Why is everyone flushing it out and going green?Should I do the same?
Tmon
corning_d3
11-14-2005, 07:37 PM
When GM says change it after XXX,000 miles, your best bet is to listen. After dex-cool get used past recommend change interval, it has been known to cause waterpumps to fail, radiators/heater cores to stop up, and all kinds of nasty stuff. Regardless to what you have heard, you can use green antifreeze in a dex-cool system, but it must be changed every 30,000 miles, according to GM.
icedawgs88
12-29-2005, 10:09 PM
You can replace the dex cool with green coolant. The dex cool will actually gum up your engine. I work for quaker state and alot of times see cars come in where there is excess build up on the radiator cap meaning this is evident in the whole radiator. They make a machine that pulls out all of the old coolant and puts new back in with no problem. Alot of people say stick with dex cool however i say wait until warranty is over then change it just because if anything goes wrong with the engine they will nto cover if flushed with a different coolant. Also dex cool does not last 150,000 miles except in rare cases it will. Most dex cool systems need flushing at 100,000 miles but the green coolant is cheaper and will work just as good and can find it everywhere. If your not sure if you want to do this just flush it out twice best bet is to go to an oil change shop that does oil changes and have them do it this way any concerns you have, or any problems that company is legally responsible for any damages done to your vehicle after servicing. No worries with switching from dex to green, i do this every day for a living and flush alot of dex cool systems over to green with the coolant machine.
MT-2500
12-29-2005, 11:36 PM
If dex cool came in it use it. It is made for your engine and your engine is made for it.
Do not believe all of the dex cool is bad stuff crap.
Old timmers said the alternators were a bad deal when they changed over from generators to.
Would you go back to a generator?
Look how long and how many cars GM has been using it in.
Just flush it out/change it ever so often.
And it is only a couple dollars higher than the old geen stuff.
Beside that green stuff will curl up your dogs toe nails if he takes a drink of it and I have heard of a few wives giving there husbands a swig of it to.
MT :grinno: : :lol: :grinno: :lol2:
Do not believe all of the dex cool is bad stuff crap.
Old timmers said the alternators were a bad deal when they changed over from generators to.
Would you go back to a generator?
Look how long and how many cars GM has been using it in.
Just flush it out/change it ever so often.
And it is only a couple dollars higher than the old geen stuff.
Beside that green stuff will curl up your dogs toe nails if he takes a drink of it and I have heard of a few wives giving there husbands a swig of it to.
MT :grinno: : :lol: :grinno: :lol2:
horse482
12-30-2005, 06:10 PM
I was talking to the head mechanic at my local Chevy dealer and he told me to flush the dex-cool out of my system on my wifes '02 and put the green stuff in, all the problems that gm vechiles have with intakes leaking stems from dex-cool. If the coolant gets low on a vechile running dex-cool it will cause the antifreeze to turn curosive.
Mr. Smith
12-31-2005, 07:13 AM
I was talking to the head mechanic at my local Chevy dealer and he told me to flush the dex-cool out of my system on my wifes '02 and put the green stuff in, all the problems that gm vechiles have with intakes leaking stems from dex-cool. If the coolant gets low on a vechile running dex-cool it will cause the antifreeze to turn curosive.
The dex doesn't have crap to do with leaking gaskets. The gaskets fail due to the material they are made from and the aluminum/iron composition of the engines. Dex isn't a forever anti-freeze like GM claims 150K but I can run 3-4 years no problem and not have to change it every other year like that green crap.
You state the obvious that if you fail to maintain your vehicle bad things happen internally. Well stop the presses, there's a newsflash. I think your "mechanic" is a moron for saying that. First he may be a parts changer...his job. But when it comes to simple maintenance he wants to lull you into the obvious, work for him to do. Typical folks don't maintain their vehicles like they should. With that said neglected coolant systems are big bucks to fix. It doesn't take a genus to see this.
Whatever you decide to use is a personal choice but I have over 300K over 3 vehicles with DEX. No coolant related issues here because I maintain them properly.
The dex doesn't have crap to do with leaking gaskets. The gaskets fail due to the material they are made from and the aluminum/iron composition of the engines. Dex isn't a forever anti-freeze like GM claims 150K but I can run 3-4 years no problem and not have to change it every other year like that green crap.
You state the obvious that if you fail to maintain your vehicle bad things happen internally. Well stop the presses, there's a newsflash. I think your "mechanic" is a moron for saying that. First he may be a parts changer...his job. But when it comes to simple maintenance he wants to lull you into the obvious, work for him to do. Typical folks don't maintain their vehicles like they should. With that said neglected coolant systems are big bucks to fix. It doesn't take a genus to see this.
Whatever you decide to use is a personal choice but I have over 300K over 3 vehicles with DEX. No coolant related issues here because I maintain them properly.
MT-2500
12-31-2005, 10:33 AM
Right on there Mr Smith
You got that figured right.
It is not the coolant it is the mantiance.
Nothing last forever.
MT :lol: :lol2:
You got that figured right.
It is not the coolant it is the mantiance.
Nothing last forever.
MT :lol: :lol2:
icedawgs88
01-04-2006, 12:24 AM
As good as those last comments sound i am still gonna say switch to the green coolant. The dex cool will gum up your engine regardless of maintnence. Its just a garbage product. In alot of cases people will get that build up right on the radiator cap wich will show you how good this coolant is. I knowi dont want that in my engine. I guess its all on personal choice. If you have faith in dex cool use it. If you know how the crap really works than switch it. Its as simple as that.
corning_d3
01-04-2006, 12:30 AM
I run green also, and just change it every 30,000 per GM instruction..
Mr. Smith
01-04-2006, 06:40 PM
As good as those last comments sound i am still gonna say switch to the green coolant. The dex cool will gum up your engine regardless of maintnence. Its just a garbage product. In alot of cases people will get that build up right on the radiator cap wich will show you how good this coolant is. I knowi dont want that in my engine. I guess its all on personal choice. If you have faith in dex cool use it. If you know how the crap really works than switch it. Its as simple as that.
Green with sludge up as well with neglect. You do what you want as you said it is a personal choice. But you make claims and fail to back them up and thats fine too.
I call it ignorance to make such statements.
Green with sludge up as well with neglect. You do what you want as you said it is a personal choice. But you make claims and fail to back them up and thats fine too.
I call it ignorance to make such statements.
MT-2500
01-04-2006, 06:52 PM
Again right on there Mr. smith
You hit the nail on the head.
It is the service and care that counts.
To many people do not know how to service and care for there cooling system.
MT :lol2: :lol: :grinyes:
You hit the nail on the head.
It is the service and care that counts.
To many people do not know how to service and care for there cooling system.
MT :lol2: :lol: :grinyes:
corning_d3
01-04-2006, 07:28 PM
I'd use Dex-Cool, but I'm just too damn cheap right now..!
MT-2500
01-04-2006, 07:34 PM
Corning_d3
You may be in luck the price of green has almost caught up with Dex-cool.
MT :lol: :lol2:
You may be in luck the price of green has almost caught up with Dex-cool.
MT :lol: :lol2:
corning_d3
01-04-2006, 07:42 PM
Man, I know!! I went into a small town mom and pop quick stop, and spent nearly $20 for a gallon of cheap, green stuff to top off my system(gasket leak)! Luckily, I just finished changed my heads and intake, so i had to put new gaskets in.. but i still cheaped out n bought green stuff...so.
icedawgs88
01-05-2006, 07:57 PM
Doesnt matter how much the green coolant is. You can get it refilled for free usually at any oil change shop it comes in bulk. however dex cool comes in drums so they might charge you. I guess thats up to you though. In the long run the green will be better and cheaper. The maintnence on dex cool calls for 150,000 miles but by that timei ts a tad to late to do the switch over. However if you car does have 100,000 plus i would stick with dex cool just because your engine is used to it but anything below that i would feel free to run the green.
horse482
01-07-2006, 02:04 PM
The dex doesn't have crap to do with leaking gaskets. The gaskets fail due to the material they are made from and the aluminum/iron composition of the engines. Dex isn't a forever anti-freeze like GM claims 150K but I can run 3-4 years no problem and not have to change it every other year like that green crap.
You state the obvious that if you fail to maintain your vehicle bad things happen internally. Well stop the presses, there's a newsflash. I think your "mechanic" is a moron for saying that. First he may be a parts changer...his job. But when it comes to simple maintenance he wants to lull you into the obvious, work for him to do. Typical folks don't maintain their vehicles like they should. With that said neglected coolant systems are big bucks to fix. It doesn't take a genus to see this.
Whatever you decide to use is a personal choice but I have over 300K over 3 vehicles with DEX. No coolant related issues here because I maintain them properly.
Well I think that you are a moron. The techs that I have talked to about this subject have more certs for ase and gm that You have brain cells. The one mechanice is one of the lead techs in the state (ranked by gm).
You state the obvious that if you fail to maintain your vehicle bad things happen internally. Well stop the presses, there's a newsflash. I think your "mechanic" is a moron for saying that. First he may be a parts changer...his job. But when it comes to simple maintenance he wants to lull you into the obvious, work for him to do. Typical folks don't maintain their vehicles like they should. With that said neglected coolant systems are big bucks to fix. It doesn't take a genus to see this.
Whatever you decide to use is a personal choice but I have over 300K over 3 vehicles with DEX. No coolant related issues here because I maintain them properly.
Well I think that you are a moron. The techs that I have talked to about this subject have more certs for ase and gm that You have brain cells. The one mechanice is one of the lead techs in the state (ranked by gm).
MT-2500
01-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Horse482
Instead of talking it to death.
Send us some documented proof to back up them claims.
MT :feedback: :biggrin2: :lol2: :lol: :grinyes:
Instead of talking it to death.
Send us some documented proof to back up them claims.
MT :feedback: :biggrin2: :lol2: :lol: :grinyes:
horse482
01-10-2006, 05:56 PM
You know that gm is not going to talk down their wonderful dex-cool. As far as I am concerned you can use what you want and I will use what I want. Either way they both work, and as been discussed in this feed, as long as you do proper service.
MT-2500
01-10-2006, 06:21 PM
Horse482
Yes that is the key word proper service.
And you need to change it ever so often.
MT
Yes that is the key word proper service.
And you need to change it ever so often.
MT
horse482
01-12-2006, 02:26 PM
Hey MT-2500 check out this other link that I found on dex cool http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3715355&postcount=11
MT-2500
01-12-2006, 03:34 PM
QUOTE FROM THAT POST [with dexcool if you let the coolant get low or air enters the system the coolant]
That alone tells you they are not doing a proper service on there cooling system.
Do a search and see if you can find any documented proof that dexcool harms the system.
MT :lol: :grinno: :lol2:
That alone tells you they are not doing a proper service on there cooling system.
Do a search and see if you can find any documented proof that dexcool harms the system.
MT :lol: :grinno: :lol2:
maxwedge
01-12-2006, 03:52 PM
QUOTE FROM THAT POST [with dexcool if you let the coolant get low or air enters the system the coolant]
That alone tells you they are not doing a proper service on there cooling system.
Do a search and see if you can find any documented proof that dexcool harms the system.
MT :lol: :grinno: :lol2:
Seconded, a lot of anecdotal mis info out there on Dexcool. have had 2 cars and a truck with anywhere from 65k to 180k, no problems, with normal maintenace.
That alone tells you they are not doing a proper service on there cooling system.
Do a search and see if you can find any documented proof that dexcool harms the system.
MT :lol: :grinno: :lol2:
Seconded, a lot of anecdotal mis info out there on Dexcool. have had 2 cars and a truck with anywhere from 65k to 180k, no problems, with normal maintenace.
MT-2500
01-12-2006, 04:25 PM
Right on there Maxwedge.
It is the service that counts.
Green or dexcool if no service you are going to have problems.
And Remember
Years ago when they first came out with alternators on cars to replace them old famous generators them old timmers all said them alternators were a bunch of crap and would not last.
I think they had kersone or green or yellow for coolant back then.
And green was not the best choice way back then.
MT :lol: :lol2:
It is the service that counts.
Green or dexcool if no service you are going to have problems.
And Remember
Years ago when they first came out with alternators on cars to replace them old famous generators them old timmers all said them alternators were a bunch of crap and would not last.
I think they had kersone or green or yellow for coolant back then.
And green was not the best choice way back then.
MT :lol: :lol2:
Mr. Smith
01-13-2006, 07:04 PM
Well I think that you are a moron. The techs that I have talked to about this subject have more certs for ase and gm that You have brain cells. The one mechanice is one of the lead techs in the state (ranked by gm).
My you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
I don't give a crap who you talked to. There are thousands of GM cars and trucks on the road with Dex. Instead of flaming why don't you put YOUR proof out there? It is very simple but since you don'y have any proof other than the spew from your "experts" just give it a rest.
I'm truly not impressed about the "certs". They are what they are. I have certs too but they aren't automotive. And since you have no clue to what you speak then I find your post downright laughable.... Opinions are like azzholes everyone has one and you made one of yourself here.
Have a nice day
My you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
I don't give a crap who you talked to. There are thousands of GM cars and trucks on the road with Dex. Instead of flaming why don't you put YOUR proof out there? It is very simple but since you don'y have any proof other than the spew from your "experts" just give it a rest.
I'm truly not impressed about the "certs". They are what they are. I have certs too but they aren't automotive. And since you have no clue to what you speak then I find your post downright laughable.... Opinions are like azzholes everyone has one and you made one of yourself here.
Have a nice day
horse482
01-14-2006, 02:40 AM
Mr. Smith why don't you stick your opinion in yours.
Mr. Smith
01-14-2006, 07:14 AM
Mr. Smith why don't you stick your opinion in yours.
Several times you have been asked to post your proof. You flamed me. Once agin you continue to post your myths and fail to offer anything positive.
When deviod of facts flame away is your motto eh?
Why don't you troll elsewhere as your silly posts are getting tiresome.
:screwy:
Several times you have been asked to post your proof. You flamed me. Once agin you continue to post your myths and fail to offer anything positive.
When deviod of facts flame away is your motto eh?
Why don't you troll elsewhere as your silly posts are getting tiresome.
:screwy:
horse482
01-14-2006, 02:40 PM
Several times you have been asked to post your proof. You flamed me. Once agin you continue to post your myths and fail to offer anything positive.
When deviod of facts flame away is your motto eh?
Why don't you troll elsewhere as your silly posts are getting tiresome.
:screwy:
If you don't like what I have to say why don't you go some where else. You have your opinion, I have mine. And the more research I have done, more people are following mine that yours. Why don't you go to any search engine and type in Dexcool problems and see what comes up. There are literally thousands of hits. Also GM is not going to knock what they have sunk millions of dollars in to. But I will take the word of my sources as gold, they have more car knowledge in there little finger that you have in your entire body.
When deviod of facts flame away is your motto eh?
Why don't you troll elsewhere as your silly posts are getting tiresome.
:screwy:
If you don't like what I have to say why don't you go some where else. You have your opinion, I have mine. And the more research I have done, more people are following mine that yours. Why don't you go to any search engine and type in Dexcool problems and see what comes up. There are literally thousands of hits. Also GM is not going to knock what they have sunk millions of dollars in to. But I will take the word of my sources as gold, they have more car knowledge in there little finger that you have in your entire body.
MT-2500
01-14-2006, 04:40 PM
Horse482
Like they say the proof is in the pudding.
You have be asked to show documented proof about Dexcool being bad.
Which you have not done.
Time to put up or shut up and move on.
But I can tell you this many wives have feed the green stuff to there husbands.
Dig them up out of the grave and ask them how good that stuff is.
Also not only drinking the stuff but inhaling the fumes of the stuff from a leaking heater core will kill you or your kidneys.
It is also a enviremental killer.
If you want to use it or green that is your choice untill the green is outlawed.
And if you want to offer your opinion about it go ahead.
But lets be nice to others that use it and do not be spreading big whoppers about it without documented proof to back them up.
MT :lol: :grinyes: :lol2:
Like they say the proof is in the pudding.
You have be asked to show documented proof about Dexcool being bad.
Which you have not done.
Time to put up or shut up and move on.
But I can tell you this many wives have feed the green stuff to there husbands.
Dig them up out of the grave and ask them how good that stuff is.
Also not only drinking the stuff but inhaling the fumes of the stuff from a leaking heater core will kill you or your kidneys.
It is also a enviremental killer.
If you want to use it or green that is your choice untill the green is outlawed.
And if you want to offer your opinion about it go ahead.
But lets be nice to others that use it and do not be spreading big whoppers about it without documented proof to back them up.
MT :lol: :grinyes: :lol2:
Mr. Smith
01-14-2006, 09:32 PM
If you don't like what I have to say why don't you go some where else. You have your opinion, I have mine. And the more research I have done, more people are following mine that yours. Why don't you go to any search engine and type in Dexcool problems and see what comes up. There are literally thousands of hits. Also GM is not going to knock what they have sunk millions of dollars in to. But I will take the word of my sources as gold, they have more car knowledge in there little finger that you have in your entire body.
It isn't about you at all or what you say. Since this is the Internet and the person behind the keyboard can say whatever they want and make their stories up.
I asked for proof. You made the statement it is for you to prove your point. It isn't up to me to search I believe what I have seen and my vehicles substantiate it for me. You have the burden of proof and once again you FAIL to back up your claim...
You are getting very boring and predictable. When you decide to put your money where your mouth is then we can move on till then all I see from you is talk and boasts.
You need to get out more and stop the petty crap. You are truly making yourself look silly.
Have a nice day.
It isn't about you at all or what you say. Since this is the Internet and the person behind the keyboard can say whatever they want and make their stories up.
I asked for proof. You made the statement it is for you to prove your point. It isn't up to me to search I believe what I have seen and my vehicles substantiate it for me. You have the burden of proof and once again you FAIL to back up your claim...
You are getting very boring and predictable. When you decide to put your money where your mouth is then we can move on till then all I see from you is talk and boasts.
You need to get out more and stop the petty crap. You are truly making yourself look silly.
Have a nice day.
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