Problem with lacquer through airbrush - can anyone help?
Captain Mark
11-07-2005, 04:27 PM
Hi guys,
I've decanted (messily!) some Tamiya TS spray and started shooting it through my airbrush. I'm using Tamiya lacquer thinner, with probably a 3:1 paint/thinner ratio. Anymore seems to thin it too much so as to be a washy white thinners mix that's unsuitable for a topcoat.
Temp has been in low 20's (C), and humidity is about average. Shooting at about 35-40psi using reasonably new Iwata airbrush (cleaned regularly).
I'm finding that often when I shoot this stuff it can leave a VERY grainy appearance in some areas. On the odd occasion it's also as if rather than going grainy it sort of forms into little hair-like... 'things'. As if lots of small hairs fell on the job just as I was spraying.
On the heavier areas it's not there very much at all, which leads me to believe it could be a spray volume thing. But then it hasn't done it in all areas... and others have had success with mist coats, etc.
It's going to be impossible to spray a mist and final clear topcoat when I come to it if this problem persists (although currently shooting white).
Can anyone help me stop this problem???
I've got no more tricks up my sleeve.
Thanks all,
M
I've decanted (messily!) some Tamiya TS spray and started shooting it through my airbrush. I'm using Tamiya lacquer thinner, with probably a 3:1 paint/thinner ratio. Anymore seems to thin it too much so as to be a washy white thinners mix that's unsuitable for a topcoat.
Temp has been in low 20's (C), and humidity is about average. Shooting at about 35-40psi using reasonably new Iwata airbrush (cleaned regularly).
I'm finding that often when I shoot this stuff it can leave a VERY grainy appearance in some areas. On the odd occasion it's also as if rather than going grainy it sort of forms into little hair-like... 'things'. As if lots of small hairs fell on the job just as I was spraying.
On the heavier areas it's not there very much at all, which leads me to believe it could be a spray volume thing. But then it hasn't done it in all areas... and others have had success with mist coats, etc.
It's going to be impossible to spray a mist and final clear topcoat when I come to it if this problem persists (although currently shooting white).
Can anyone help me stop this problem???
I've got no more tricks up my sleeve.
Thanks all,
M
robrex
11-07-2005, 05:11 PM
I use a 'High Quality Laquer thinner' that I got from a local paint supply store. I had the same problem when I first started decanting the Tamiya paints. I ended up mixing the paint/thinner to about 50% mix. I also thought it was too thin but the thinners dry very quickly.
pettercardoso
11-07-2005, 05:15 PM
I've only decanted and airbrushed TS one time, but I've airbrushed it directly without thinning it and the paint was fluid enough through my Iwata HP-C @ around 20~25 psi.
Probably metallic colours may need a bit more pressure due to their "thicker" consistency...?
Probably metallic colours may need a bit more pressure due to their "thicker" consistency...?
mikemechanic
11-07-2005, 05:38 PM
Sounds like you are getting veiling due too your lacquer being too thick. Sounds like you need to thin more. Check out the tutorials on Cobra colors (http://www.cobracolors.com/) site. Very informative and helped me out immensley.
ZoomZoomMX-5
11-07-2005, 06:01 PM
Since you've already tried thinning the paint, try a much lower air pressure-you might get much better gloss starting in the 10-15 psi range-work up from there until you reach a happy medium-Tamiya spray decants w/o needing much thinner (if any) to work well through an airbrush. I think excessive pressure is causing the paint to dry much too rapidly before it hits the surface.
Captain Mark
11-07-2005, 06:26 PM
I think a bit more testing is in order - thanks for the tips guys, I'll give it all a go tonight!
SteveK2003
11-08-2005, 12:02 AM
There was an article on this in a recent Fine Scale Modeler: The author decanted some paint and sprayed on an overall mist coat lacquer straight from the can at about 10psi, and then when it cured he did a single wet coat with the can. He says he didn't do any finish work and it looked great.
Captain Mark
11-08-2005, 05:25 AM
I've tried adding more thinner, to a ratio of about 1:1 and the problem appears to have vanished!
Time will tell I suppose, I've got a bit more experimenting to do... but hopefully I'll find some success and have the body of this damn BAR finished this year!
Time will tell I suppose, I've got a bit more experimenting to do... but hopefully I'll find some success and have the body of this damn BAR finished this year!
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