Tamiya gloss paints
wouter1981
10-29-2005, 09:55 AM
Hi,
I just bought myself a harder and steenbeck evolution airbrush and have trued to airbrush some amiya acrylics because i heard so much good about them. But i just can't make the gloss colours glossy.. they always dry matt. i used Isopropanol to thin the paint and i've tryed spraying the paint un thinned unto a ratio to 50% pain50% alcohol.. and still it dries matt. Does anybody has an ID of what I'm doeing wrong? I used a tamiya primer and my airbrush pressure is 2bar... that's what the discribtion of my airbrush mentioned for the ideale presure..
thx in advance.
I just bought myself a harder and steenbeck evolution airbrush and have trued to airbrush some amiya acrylics because i heard so much good about them. But i just can't make the gloss colours glossy.. they always dry matt. i used Isopropanol to thin the paint and i've tryed spraying the paint un thinned unto a ratio to 50% pain50% alcohol.. and still it dries matt. Does anybody has an ID of what I'm doeing wrong? I used a tamiya primer and my airbrush pressure is 2bar... that's what the discribtion of my airbrush mentioned for the ideale presure..
thx in advance.
Vric
10-29-2005, 09:56 AM
If it's dull, it's usually because you thin too much the paint. (or because you have a rough finish)
2 bar is near 30psi right ?
if so, it's a bit too much for my taste. I work between 7 and 20PSI
2 bar is near 30psi right ?
if so, it's a bit too much for my taste. I work between 7 and 20PSI
wouter1981
10-29-2005, 10:06 AM
but if I thin it less... it becomes verry rough... i've heard about some people who spray tamiya paints unthinned!! but then it's like sandpaper-rough
freakray
10-29-2005, 10:18 AM
How far from the surface are you spraying?
What colors are you spraying?
What colors are you spraying?
wouter1981
10-29-2005, 10:22 AM
I've tryed from spraying from 5cm to 20cm (that's 2 to 8 inches)
I've tryed the gloss bleu.. (don't remember wich) and the clear...
I've tryed the gloss bleu.. (don't remember wich) and the clear...
freakray
10-29-2005, 10:29 AM
Can you post a photo of the finish you're getting?
wouter1981
10-29-2005, 11:05 AM
srry I can't post a pic, but it's a lot of different kinds of matt.. in 1 place there soms gloss but with masses of orange peel.... way po much to wetsand it out.
freakray
10-29-2005, 11:47 AM
Sounds like you're not spraying constently, and that you're spraying from too far from the surface.
Orange peel could also indicate the paints too thick.
Have you tried thinning the paint with Tamiya acrylic thinner?
Orange peel could also indicate the paints too thick.
Have you tried thinning the paint with Tamiya acrylic thinner?
wouter1981
10-29-2005, 11:48 AM
no i've just used the alcohol and water.. but would it make THAT much of a difference?
freakray
10-29-2005, 12:02 PM
Yes, especially water, you should never thin acrylics with water.
wouter1981
10-30-2005, 09:01 AM
ok then.. tomorrow I will look for the tamiya tinner.. I hope it's the solution because i really like the acrylics for the easy clean up.. just soapwater and alcohol... easy an non-toxic... BTW is there a Taimya laquer thinner?
freakray
10-30-2005, 09:26 AM
Tamiya only makes lacquers in spray cans so they don't produce a thinner, they do produce a thinner for their acrylic and enamel ranges though.
Fkouch
10-30-2005, 09:30 AM
Tamiya only makes lacquers in spray cans so they don't produce a thinner, they do produce a thinner for their acrylic and enamel ranges though.
Err.. actually they do :naughty:
http://www.modelsforsale.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111922
Its been out awhile actually.
Cheers
Farrokh
Err.. actually they do :naughty:
http://www.modelsforsale.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111922
Its been out awhile actually.
Cheers
Farrokh
freakray
10-30-2005, 09:33 AM
Err.. actually they do :naughty:
http://www.modelsforsale.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111922
Its been out awhile actually.
Cheers
Farrokh
Thanks for the link, first time I've heard of it. :icon16:
http://www.modelsforsale.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111922
Its been out awhile actually.
Cheers
Farrokh
Thanks for the link, first time I've heard of it. :icon16:
wouter1981
10-30-2005, 10:16 AM
great.. I like laquers a lot for carbody's but the spraycans are just so damn expensive..so if I can decatnt them... it would be a big money saver. THX for alle the afvise ...just need to find those thinners yet...
MPWR
10-30-2005, 04:09 PM
It has long been said that Tamiya's gloss acrylics dry glossy with their own thinner because of some particular additive they add (it's been guessed that it's glycerin). Without this additive, the gloss acrylics dry to a matt finish. I believe that if you polish out the paint with Tamiya rubbing compound or the like, it will also be glossy- it's really just the surface that dries matt. Their flat acrylics don't need the additive. Give the Tamiya thinner a try, you may have better results.
Water is fine to thin acrylics- just don't use it straight (mix it with alcohol), and use distilled instead of tap water.
Water is fine to thin acrylics- just don't use it straight (mix it with alcohol), and use distilled instead of tap water.
Vric
10-30-2005, 04:58 PM
Yes, especially water, you should never thin acrylics with water.
Just want to add: Don't thin Tamiya Acrylic with Water.
If you use Model Master Acrylic (for example) Water does work perfectly, but it has no impact on tamiya "acrylic"
Just want to add: Don't thin Tamiya Acrylic with Water.
If you use Model Master Acrylic (for example) Water does work perfectly, but it has no impact on tamiya "acrylic"
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