Oil Filter
97gs-t teamrtv
10-26-2005, 07:02 PM
Did a few searches and could not come up with an answer. which oil filter do you reccommend using in a 97 eclipse gs-t. it has 82000 miles and i am currently using mobil 1 synthetic. i go to the dealer to get the OEM mitsubishi oil filter but i was just wondering if anyone reccommends anything else.
l_eclipse_l
10-26-2005, 07:23 PM
Purolator PUREONE. Best oil filter ever. Only run you about $6.
spyderturbo007
10-27-2005, 09:44 AM
K & N
Runs about $14.
Runs about $14.
Carolina Z
10-27-2005, 12:36 PM
With K & N you are paying for K & N's name , advertising and so forth.
I cked with several auto parts stores awhile back as well as the dealer. This is the result
If you change the oil at 2500-3000 mile intervals as you really should almost any filter is as good as any other, from WalMarts brand all the way to K & N.
Purolator, Fram, AC/Delco etc, one is as good as the other when changing the oil as recommended.
K & N will say that their filter does the best job , Ive used K & N on my sons Mits as well as my 77 Datsun 280 Z and didnt see any big difference outside of the fact that the KandN cost two to three times more.
K & N is nice to see on an engine if you can, showing that you will spend whatever to have a name on a filter, so if you are gonna change the oil at 2500 -3000 miles , then the Purolator, Fram etc will and does work just as well.
The big thing is changing the oil more so than the filter that is used. Or so NAPA , AutoZone, and Advanced along with the dealer have told me.
I cked with several auto parts stores awhile back as well as the dealer. This is the result
If you change the oil at 2500-3000 mile intervals as you really should almost any filter is as good as any other, from WalMarts brand all the way to K & N.
Purolator, Fram, AC/Delco etc, one is as good as the other when changing the oil as recommended.
K & N will say that their filter does the best job , Ive used K & N on my sons Mits as well as my 77 Datsun 280 Z and didnt see any big difference outside of the fact that the KandN cost two to three times more.
K & N is nice to see on an engine if you can, showing that you will spend whatever to have a name on a filter, so if you are gonna change the oil at 2500 -3000 miles , then the Purolator, Fram etc will and does work just as well.
The big thing is changing the oil more so than the filter that is used. Or so NAPA , AutoZone, and Advanced along with the dealer have told me.
Talont28
10-27-2005, 12:40 PM
Purolator PUREONE. Best oil filter ever. Only run you about $6.
umm no offense but pureone is not a very good oil filter at all..ive used pureone in the past untill i got curious and took it apart after using the material is junk inside...the k&n on the other hand has quality material and id recomend it to any one...
by the way the part number for the k&n you will need is hp1010
Jesse
umm no offense but pureone is not a very good oil filter at all..ive used pureone in the past untill i got curious and took it apart after using the material is junk inside...the k&n on the other hand has quality material and id recomend it to any one...
by the way the part number for the k&n you will need is hp1010
Jesse
scottsee
10-27-2005, 02:26 PM
OEM only on mine.
spyderturbo007
10-27-2005, 03:11 PM
almost any filter is as good as any other, from WalMarts brand all the way to K & N.
Yep, I bet the Wal-Mart brand filter and the K & N are the same. :uhoh:
Besides the fact that I have noticed that my oil stays cleaner longer, I have personnally cut open a K & N, PureOne and a Fram filter. There is a tremendous difference between the 3. For starters, the K & N has a drainback plug, which the Fram does not. It also has significantly more and denser filtering material than the other 2. Also, that K&N was a bitch to cut in half, proving that it had thicker walls than the others and the ability to hold higher pressures.
The K&N also uses an impregnated cellulose fiber as the filtering material as opposed to the paper/cardboard used by the other manufactures allowing it to filter down to 10 microns. The cheaper brands only filter down to about 40 microns.
That coupled with the fact that it has a 1" nut on the end for easy removal, along with a hole at the end so you can wire it to the housing, makes it the filter for me. I have read too many stories of DSM oil filters backing themselves off while driving.
So, yeah, I'm sure that the Wal-Mart filter is the same as the K&N. :disappoin
Personally, I don't mind spending the extra money on the filter and oil, as almost everyone will tell you that an oil change is the best preventative maintence you can perform for your car.
So if you want to buy the $2 Wal-Mart filter and $1/qt oil, have at it.
Yep, I bet the Wal-Mart brand filter and the K & N are the same. :uhoh:
Besides the fact that I have noticed that my oil stays cleaner longer, I have personnally cut open a K & N, PureOne and a Fram filter. There is a tremendous difference between the 3. For starters, the K & N has a drainback plug, which the Fram does not. It also has significantly more and denser filtering material than the other 2. Also, that K&N was a bitch to cut in half, proving that it had thicker walls than the others and the ability to hold higher pressures.
The K&N also uses an impregnated cellulose fiber as the filtering material as opposed to the paper/cardboard used by the other manufactures allowing it to filter down to 10 microns. The cheaper brands only filter down to about 40 microns.
That coupled with the fact that it has a 1" nut on the end for easy removal, along with a hole at the end so you can wire it to the housing, makes it the filter for me. I have read too many stories of DSM oil filters backing themselves off while driving.
So, yeah, I'm sure that the Wal-Mart filter is the same as the K&N. :disappoin
Personally, I don't mind spending the extra money on the filter and oil, as almost everyone will tell you that an oil change is the best preventative maintence you can perform for your car.
So if you want to buy the $2 Wal-Mart filter and $1/qt oil, have at it.
l_eclipse_l
10-27-2005, 05:46 PM
umm no offense but pureone is not a very good oil filter at all..ive used pureone in the past untill i got curious and took it apart after using the material is junk inside...the k&n on the other hand has quality material and id recomend it to any one...
by the way the part number for the k&n you will need is hp1010
Jesse
You can go ahead and say that, but the Pure1 is known to be a decent filter. I put it right under the K&N filter, but price wise I like the sound of $6 over $14, when the difference is minimal. There was a guy who bought like 30 different filter, cut them open, and documented which ones sucked ass and which ones were decent. I looked and couldn't find the link in the 30 seconds that I searched quick, but I will look later and post it up if someone else dosn't before me. Pure1 was ranked one of the better filters.
by the way the part number for the k&n you will need is hp1010
Jesse
You can go ahead and say that, but the Pure1 is known to be a decent filter. I put it right under the K&N filter, but price wise I like the sound of $6 over $14, when the difference is minimal. There was a guy who bought like 30 different filter, cut them open, and documented which ones sucked ass and which ones were decent. I looked and couldn't find the link in the 30 seconds that I searched quick, but I will look later and post it up if someone else dosn't before me. Pure1 was ranked one of the better filters.
Talont28
10-27-2005, 06:04 PM
You can go ahead and say that, but the Pure1 is known to be a decent filter. I put it right under the K&N filter, but price wise I like the sound of $6 over $14, when the difference is minimal. There was a guy who bought like 30 different filter, cut them open, and documented which ones sucked ass and which ones were decent. I looked and couldn't find the link in the 30 seconds that I searched quick, but I will look later and post it up if someone else dosn't before me. Pure1 was ranked one of the better filters.
no offense but go ahead and tear apart ur next pure one...then go and spend a couple of more bucks on a k&n you will see the diffrence...im not saying puralator is junk im just saying k&n is far better... and i dont know about 14 bucks here its only 11 ;)
Jesse
no offense but go ahead and tear apart ur next pure one...then go and spend a couple of more bucks on a k&n you will see the diffrence...im not saying puralator is junk im just saying k&n is far better... and i dont know about 14 bucks here its only 11 ;)
Jesse
l_eclipse_l
10-27-2005, 09:22 PM
Carolina Z
10-28-2005, 08:23 AM
Hey , all I was doing was passing along information that I had obtained from various suppliers of oil filters. I never said that I would use them.
Personally I use BOSCH on all of my cars , as well as Castrol GTX oil which comes out of all 4 vehicles at 2-2500 miles and no more.
Im sure there is a difference just as in all things. I however just dont see and considering how frequently I change the oil, spending the money on K & N thats all, when the Bosch filters are in all likelyhood just as good as well as from a company that I use alot of other parts from, i.e plugs, plug wires etc
Personally I use BOSCH on all of my cars , as well as Castrol GTX oil which comes out of all 4 vehicles at 2-2500 miles and no more.
Im sure there is a difference just as in all things. I however just dont see and considering how frequently I change the oil, spending the money on K & N thats all, when the Bosch filters are in all likelyhood just as good as well as from a company that I use alot of other parts from, i.e plugs, plug wires etc
Talont28
10-28-2005, 08:48 AM
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
link? i didnt even test k&n...and it didnt have anything really good to say about pure one other than it was better than the regular puralator...
and personally bosch is mainly for domestic car...id stick w/ the ngk's bpr7es's
Jesse
link? i didnt even test k&n...and it didnt have anything really good to say about pure one other than it was better than the regular puralator...
and personally bosch is mainly for domestic car...id stick w/ the ngk's bpr7es's
Jesse
l_eclipse_l
10-28-2005, 09:45 AM
link? i didnt even test k&n...and it didnt have anything really good to say about pure one other than it was better than the regular puralator...
and personally bosch is mainly for domestic car...id stick w/ the ngk's bpr7es's
Jesse
Your right, they didn't test K&N. Probably because nobody disputes their quality, just that they are expensive. I agree with the NGK spark plug recommendation on DSM's.
and personally bosch is mainly for domestic car...id stick w/ the ngk's bpr7es's
Jesse
Your right, they didn't test K&N. Probably because nobody disputes their quality, just that they are expensive. I agree with the NGK spark plug recommendation on DSM's.
tr10av
10-28-2005, 12:30 PM
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
I have used that website to check which filter to get, but keep in mind that is a 2-3 year old study and things may have changed with the different companies in that time.
I have used that website to check which filter to get, but keep in mind that is a 2-3 year old study and things may have changed with the different companies in that time.
97gs-t teamrtv
11-01-2005, 10:15 AM
Thanks for the input. looks like next oil change is going to be a k&n oil filer for me. if its that much better, i dont mind spending the extra few dollars. i dont drive the car much anyway. BTW what are you guys considering to be a better oil filter, the way it is constructed? or the way the car runs while using it?
Blackcrow64
11-01-2005, 10:53 AM
Actually, its best to run an OEM filter guys. There is a check valve in there so when the oil pressure is higher, it bypasses the filter all together so that your engine isn't starving for oil. I had an amsoil filter on mine and it seemed to always be decent till I would run it hard then it would smell really hot. I never had that problem with the OEM filter, so back to the OEM it is for me.
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