SVT Focus Vs. LT1 Z28

Last night I'm coming home from Wal-Mart and as I turn right on to the highway I see Camaro Tail lights a head of me. There are no cars around so I say what the hell right. After I speed up and catch him, it is a Z28. He looks over and laugh's. I slow down to 30 mph, so does he. I roll down the window and ask if he wants a head start. He laughs again and flips me off. I tell him to honk 3 times. He does and we both gun it. I mash the gas in 2nd gear and when my tires hook up I pull up on him quickly and by the time I hit 90+ mph and shift into 4th I have 2 car lengths on him and pulling. I have about 3 1/2 car lengths on him at 120 mph. I shut it down to wait for him because he was slowing down. He makes a u - turn instead.
Wow, flipping me off must have felt really good right about then.
Oh, one more thing I was only running a 50 shot last night due only having 93 octane in the tank.

Well. decent kill IMO.

So you have a mostly stock svt with a bit of n2o and you pulled on an LS1 by 3 lengths or so? I'm not raising the BS flag just yet, but how?

If it is in fact true then nice kill.


-Edit:Hold on here...so you slowed to 30 mph to race him on the highway? Wtf. Then he made a u-turn on the highway as well?

nice kill man

Why were you racing in traffic?

So you have a mostly stock svt with a bit of n2o and you pulled on an LS1 by 3 lengths or so? I'm not raising the BS flag just yet, but how?

If it is in fact true then nice kill.

This is not the only Z28 I have taken out. Remember, It was from a roll on. If it was from a light I would have needed 75-100 shot to take him. Tall gearing, a flywheel 13lb.s lighter than stock, 2700 lb car and spray go well together. I have been killed by modified Z28's and SS's but not stock.

BTW, it was state highway 121 in Texas, 55mph speed limit and there were NO cars in sight. And yes, he made a u-turn. There are intersecting lights about a mile apart where we were racing.

Why were you racing in traffic?


Quote:Why are you racing in the middle of traffic??

It's that magical hobby called street racing.

:biggrin:

This is not the only Z28 I have taken out. Remember, It was from a roll on. If it was from a light I would have needed 75-100 shot to take him. Tall gearing, a flywheel 13lb.s lighter than stock, 2700 lb car and spray go well together. I have been killed by modified Z28's and SS's but not stock.

BTW, it was state highway 121 in Texas, 55mph speed limit and there were NO cars in sight. And yes, he made a u-turn. There are intersecting lights about a mile apart where we were racing.
I call bs. I think ls1's would walk you. In fact i think a stock l98 could walk you and i know for a fact an ss would smoke you. Im not saying you didnt beat this one but maybe he was a bad driver. Want proof?






Proof a guy with an svt focus but with a few more mods than you
SLIP STREAM SVT
Current Implants: Grounding Wires, AEM Cold Air Intake, Ford Racing Strut Bar, Smoked Nite Shade Side Markers, Home Made Shorty Antenna, Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter, VF Engine Mounts, SCT Xcalibrator 1 (tune by Wayne @ Hypnotic Illusions ), Nx 50 Shot Wet Kit



hi all, i don't have a scanner but i just did my dyno yesterday on a dyno jet and temp was 73 degrees Farinheit, humidity was 29.22 ci/hg and this is what i got

max hp. = 143.97
max tq. = 127.86

and my A/F started at approx 15.3 with a linear curve going down to like 11.7 as the rpm's rose



the thing is...all i have is an AEM short ram intake and i feel my numbers are really low compared to other SVTF's this other guy with his own custom short ram and a msrp cat back showed a little higher hp/tq then me... his #'s were 148.?? and tq was 129.?? it's not that far off... but still i thought i would be hitting at least 155hp and 135tq... cause i see others on here post their dyno #'s all stock and they are reaching those #'s what could be the problem with my baby, besides needing more bolt-ons cause i will address any issue to my dealer so i can resolve these low #'s and any help would be greatly appreciated Current Implants: Grounding Wires, AEM Cold Air Intake, Ford Racing Strut Bar, Smoked Nite Shade Side Markers, Home Made Shorty Antenna, Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter, VF Engine Mounts, SCT Xcalibrator 1 (tune by Wayne @ Hypnotic Illusions ), Nx 50 Shot Wet Kit

and Thanks SO much ahead of time


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156.36 FWHP - 138.90 lbs/Torque
Dyno & Stuff

-MODS-
MagnaFlow Cat-Back, Pipercross Viper Cold Air Intake, FC Strut Bar, FC 2pc UDP, Steeda Tri-Ax, SCT Tune (by McNews), VF Engineering Rear Motor Mount, TYC Carbon Fiber Euro Tail Lights, Ford Racing 9mm Wires, Enkei 18" R7's (Anthracite) rapped with Nitto NeoGen's
source http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=14361


Quarter mile calculator
modded
Focus w nitrous
Car weight: 2700 lbs.
Horsepower: 200 hp
Configuration: Front Wheel Drive


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Results
Quarter Mile Acceleration: 15.195 seconds.
Terminal speed: 98.2739 mph

stock
Camaro
Car weight: 3553 lbs.
Horsepower: 310 hp
Configuration: Rear Wheel Drive

car specs come from http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=1146

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Results
Quarter Mile Acceleration: 14.241 seconds.
Terminal speed: 103.7994 mph.

ya i dont believe it either

This is not the only Z28 I have taken out. Remember, It was from a roll on. If it was from a light I would have needed 75-100 shot to take him. Tall gearing, a flywheel 13lb.s lighter than stock, 2700 lb car and spray go well together. I have been killed by modified Z28's and SS's but not stock.

BTW, it was state highway 121 in Texas, 55mph speed limit and there were NO cars in sight. And yes, he made a u-turn. There are intersecting lights about a mile apart where we were racing.


Bull shit.

Wanna know why?

Becuase unless you were hella outside of city limits, except for crossovers, there is no place on 121, both going into Down Town Fort Worth or towards Dallas, to pull a u turn, unless you exit the highway. Neither are their cross lights, save for the ones next to 121 going towards 820. And the speed limit is 60. I know, when Im home, in Texas, 99.9% of my highway racing is on 121 in the Metroplex between Grapevine, Southlake, North Richland Hills, Richland Hills, Ft. Worth, Dallas, and the best God damned city in the state, Colleyville.

Oh, and if I recall correctly, the Saleen SVT Focus with nitrous ran a 15.3 pass on the spray...

Quote:Why are you racing in the middle of traffic??

It's that magical hobby called street racing.

That's my point.

He twitches on digital for street racing then posts a street racing story himself.

Tit for tat.

I got a set of z28 stickers here if anybody else wants to install them on their v6 camaro. I'll sell them really cheap, but please don't race anybody, giving them false hopes and dreams. :disappoin

Oh, and if I recall correctly, the Saleen SVT Focus with nitrous ran a 15.3 pass on the spray...
This makes LS1 cars scared.

This makes LS1 cars scared.

Are you going to hide under your covers for a couple days now luos? I know I am. :rofl:

This makes LS1 cars scared.
ROFLKAKKE

fear the 15s

that sir is going into my sig.

not calling BS cause anything could happen...... like a small nail going in to the z28 tire causing him to slow down or pull over lol ........... but nice kill anyways your 15 sec car just beat a 14 sec car if your not lying..........or are you lol

Bull shit.

Wanna know why?

Becuase unless you were hella outside of city limits, except for crossovers, there is no place on 121, both going into Down Town Fort Worth or towards Dallas, to pull a u turn, unless you exit the highway. Neither are their cross lights, save for the ones next to 121 going towards 820. And the speed limit is 60. I know, when Im home, in Texas, 99.9% of my highway racing is on 121 in the Metroplex between Grapevine, Southlake, North Richland Hills, Richland Hills, Ft. Worth, Dallas, and the best God damned city in the state, Colleyville.

Oh, and if I recall correctly, the Saleen SVT Focus with nitrous ran a 15.3 pass on the spray...


Not BS, wanna know why??? I live near Frisco/Allen/ Plano. And yes there are stoplights intersecting with 121. Um, let me think, 121 & Custer, 121 & Ohio, 121 & Coit, 121 & Preston to name a few. So if you want to bust my ball's, half way know what you are talking about.
And second thing. . .
A Saleen focus which has the 151 flywheel HP duratec ( SVT Focus 170 ) runs a 70 shot wet system = 221 Flywheel HP runs the 1/4 as follows;
0-30 2.15 sec
0-40 3.37 sec
0-50 4.59 sec
0-60 5.90 sec
0-70 7.85 sec
0-80 9.78 sec
0-90 12.11 sec
0-100 15.44 sec
1/4 mile in 14.30 @ 98.48 mph.

And the Saleen is not an SVT, They have different engines, different Suspension different everything, so again if you don't have a clue what you are talking about don't add your two cents.

Again, SVT Focus 170 Flywheel HP maybe 10 whp from Mod's + 50 WHP shot of nitrous. . .
221+ Flywheel HP in a 2700 lb car.
Oh, And I ran this car at the strip BONE stock - 15.7 @ 89 mph.

Oh, And I ran this car at the strip BONE stock - 15.7 @ 89 mph.
Which puts you 2 seconds off a bad driver with an LS1 car.

Not BS, wanna know why??? I live near Frisco/Allen/ Plano. And yes there are stoplights intersecting with 121. Um, let me think, 121 & Custer, 121 & Ohio, 121 & Coit, 121 & Preston to name a few. So if you want to bust my ball's, half way know what you are talking about.
And second thing. . .
A Saleen focus which has the 151 flywheel HP duratec ( SVT Focus 170 ) runs a 70 shot wet system = 221 Flywheel HP runs the 1/4 as follows;
0-30 2.15 sec
0-40 3.37 sec
0-50 4.59 sec
0-60 5.90 sec
0-70 7.85 sec
0-80 9.78 sec
0-90 12.11 sec
0-100 15.44 sec
1/4 mile in 14.30 @ 98.48 mph.

And the Saleen is not an SVT, They have different engines, different Suspension different everything, so again if you don't have a clue what you are talking about don't add your two cents.

Again, SVT Focus 170 Flywheel HP maybe 10 whp from Mod's + 50 WHP shot of nitrous. . .
221+ Flywheel HP in a 2700 lb car.
Oh, And I ran this car at the strip BONE stock - 15.7 @ 89 mph.
I dont know how you say with 50 horsepower you gain close to 1.5 seconds.
Car weight: 2750 lbs.
Horsepower: 221 hp
Configuration: Front Wheel Drive


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Results
Quarter Mile Acceleration: 14.788 seconds.
Terminal speed: 100.9898 mph.
Mustangs hit that not svt focus with a stupid flywheel and 50 horsepower. It must be from that typer badge you put on your car. :lol:
And my l98 ran a 13.8 with a jet chip. So explain how an engine 2 generations in advance continuly loses to a 14.3 car. Trust me its like this ls1>l98. Now you can start telling us about the v6 camaro you beat. :lol:

Which puts you 2 seconds off a bad driver with an LS1 car.

That was stock, no mod's no nitrous.

I understand that.
You didn't gain 2 seconds from your mods.

And from a roll, the LS1 car is going to be even more dangerous.

I dont know how you say with 50 horsepower you gain close to 1.5 seconds.
Car weight: 2750 lbs.
Horsepower: 221 hp
Configuration: Front Wheel Drive


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Results
Quarter Mile Acceleration: 14.788 seconds.
Terminal speed: 100.9898 mph.
Mustangs hit that not svt focus with a stupid flywheel and 50 horsepower. It must be from that typer badge you put on your car. :lol:

If you had read my post, that is not my car. . . Those times / MPH are from a SALEEN focus with 20 less flywheel horsepower then I have. That is the numbers that Motor Trend has for the Saleen when they tested it.


And this is from a roll on. FWD and RWD really don't matter as much as Power to Weight Ratio & Gearing. Trust me, these are pretty comparable from A ROLL ON.

Camaro= stock
Car weight: 3553 lbs.
Horsepower: 310 hp
Configuration: Rear Wheel Drive

My Focus SVT
Car Weight 2700 lbs.
HP 221+ HP
Front Wheel Drive

I understand that.
You didn't gain 2 seconds from your mods.

And from a roll, the LS1 car is going to be even more dangerous.

I said I ran a 15.7 @ 89 stock. I never said I would run 13.7 on bolt ons and a 50 shot of spray. And I never said it took me 1/4 mile to beat this guy for that matter. I ran to 120 MPH. At that speed I had him in my rear view by 2-3 car lengths.

Then it wasn't an LS1 car.

Then it wasn't an LS1 car.

I'm with Luos on this.
This would be like me saying I beat an LS1 with my car, it's just not going to happen in any situation. Your car would be a good match for mine in a roll, but not an LS1.

Then it wasn't an LS1 car.
I was a Maroon Z28 with the cheesy ass square dual exhaust tips. I can take a V6 without spray.

Could have been an LT1 car if you reeled it in top end.

Could have been an LT1 car if you reeled it in top end.

SS's and Firehawks pull on me, not as bad as you may think though. Although I usually run when I'm on a 75 shot of nitrous. Regular Run of the mill Z28's I can get from a roll on with a 50 shot.

Ok, did it look like this:

http://dannykiller.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/slp95z28.jpg



or like this



http://www.police.uci.edu/images/carshow/2002/00_Camaro_SS_Rupp.jpg

Ok, did it look like this:

http://dannykiller.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/slp95z28.jpg



or like this



http://www.police.uci.edu/images/carshow/2002/00_Camaro_SS_Rupp.jpg



LOL, It wasn't an SS. This first pic/link doesn't work.

14.3 at 98 is not LS1 territory, its mustang gt.

What is the difference 1/4 wise for an SS and a z28

Could have been an LT1 car if you reeled it in top end.

Fished this off the website.
SVT Focus Timeslip, Stock Bottom Engine, Stock Head.
Bolt on's and 50 shot of nitrous.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/shadyninja/timeslip.jpg

Well, what I meant was which bodystyle? 93-97 or 98-02? The 93-97 had the LT1, 98-02 had the LS1

Well, what I meant was which bodystyle? 93-97 or 98-02? The 93-97 had the LT1, 98-02 had the LS1

I would have to say the 93-97 then. The Second pic you posted of the SS is the rounder body style. It was definitly not that.

14.3 at 98 is not LS1 territory, its mustang gt.

What is the difference 1/4 wise for an SS and a z28

I NEVER said I beat an LS1 Car. Maybe the year in my title is wrong but it was a Z28.

Fine more pictures.

This

http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/400x266/1990-92-Chevrolet-Camaro-91123251990604.JPG


or this


http://www.rivercityf-bodies.com/images/members/KennyW.jpg

Fished this off the website.
SVT Focus Timeslip, Stock Bottom Engine, Stock Head.
Bolt on's and 50 shot of nitrous.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/shadyninja/timeslip.jpg

Thats a good quarter time (for what its worth). But seeing as the race was from a roll, its the trap speed that counts. You need to be trapping at AT LEAST 100mph to even run EVEN with a z28.

Fine more pictures.

This

http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/400x266/1990-92-Chevrolet-Camaro-91123251990604.JPG


or this


http://www.rivercityf-bodies.com/images/members/KennyW.jpg


Niether. It looked Exacly like this but Maroon. I guess the year was off. I guess it was 93-97 Z28 LT1.
http://www.z28.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5416&sort=1&cat=505&page=11


Never had to work so hard to prove not BS. . . Jeez

I actually beleive him. An LT1 traps slightly lower than the timeslip he posted, probably about 95 mph (looking at dragtimes.com). Plus factor in the condition of the engine (the camaro probably had a lot more miles), so it's beleivable.

Is there any way we could see some 1/4 mile time slips for this Nitrous SVT Focus?

Edit - Just looked at the one you had posted in your sig.

Fished this off the website.
SVT Focus Timeslip, Stock Bottom Engine, Stock Head.
Bolt on's and 50 shot of nitrous.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/shadyninja/timeslip.jpg
That doesnt show drops. Heres a dyno with the nitrous added and its pretty accurate. Notice your hp and torque peaks and the ls1. You would get blown away.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/Caleb56/dynotest.gif

Ok, so we've established it's not an LS1.

Shall I edit the thread title?... I think I shall.



Now, taking into account it's most likely a LT1 you've been racing and beating all this time. Want to race an LS1? :icon16:

Kidding, you're too far.

Want to race an LS1? :icon16:
ME ME ME ME ME !!!!

Ok, so we've established it's not an LS1.

Shall I edit the thread title?... I think I shall.



Now, taking into account it's most likely a LT1 you've been racing and beating all this time. Want to race an LS1? :icon16:

Kidding, you're too far.

Thanks for editing the title by the way. I was mistaken on the year of the car. Now that it took 30+ posts to get some believer's . . . jeez

Fished this off the website.
SVT Focus Timeslip, Stock Bottom Engine, Stock Head.
Bolt on's and 50 shot of nitrous.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/shadyninja/timeslip.jpg
I want to see what website. Im not calling bs on this but i like to see the posts.

Ok, so we've established it's not an LS1.

Shall I edit the thread title?... I think I shall.

Yeah. Wouldn't wanna mistake him beating an LS1 now, would we? :wink:

That is a sweet IROC

That is a sweet IROC

Speaking of sweet IROC's..... CLICK (http://www.iroc-zpostforum.com/iroc_idiot.mp3)

14.1 for a FSVT on a 50 shot seems slow..


this may be off topic but a completly stock contour with a zetec (125hp vs his 170hp) with only a 65 shot ran a 14.4.. now these run mid 16 stock VS your mid-high 15

and he's heavier/lesstq/hp and way less mods then you

doesn't seem right, and I know they're different cars, but that just doesn't sound right to me

14.1 for a FSVT on a 50 shot seems slow..


this may be off topic but a completly stock contour with a zetec (125hp vs his 170hp) with only a 65 shot ran a 14.4.. now these run mid 16 stock VS your mid-high 15

and he's heavier/lesstq/hp and way less mods then you

doesn't seem right, and I know they're different cars, but that just doesn't sound right to me
stock focus svt run 16.1 as tested.

Speaking of sweet IROC's..... CLICK (http://www.iroc-zpostforum.com/iroc_idiot.mp3)
omg I didn't know redneck was ever on the radio!

omg I didn't know redneck was ever on the radio!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

stock focus svt run 16.1 as tested.go back two pages then reply

I want to see what website. Im not calling bs on this but i like to see the posts.


Scroll halfway donw the page. The timeslip is there. S/N Shadyninja. Bolt on's and 50 shot. Less modified than my SVT.
http://www.focaljet.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2416916736/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

Scroll halfway donw the page. The timeslip is there. S/N Shadyninja. Bolt on's and 50 shot. Less modified than my SVT.
http://www.focaljet.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2416916736/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
somehow i doubt its just laughing gas
Modifications lots
Modifications (cont'd) tons
http://shadyninja.com

somehow i doubt its just laughing gas
Modifications lots
Modifications (cont'd) tons
http://shadyninja.com

I post on the regular there. I read his original post with this attached and It said, Bolt on's and Nitrous 50 shot. Trust me. I have also seen mid low 13's with the SVT on 75-100 shot. That time is dead on.

I believe!

Possible mebbe.

wow this thread developed quickly, this is the first time ive seen it. lol i saw LT1 in the title and was wondering why everyone was saying LS1, but then i saw it was changed.... All in all i find it believable if its an LT1. I like those SVT focuses too, you got a 2 door?

wow this thread developed quickly, this is the first time ive seen it. lol i saw LT1 in the title and was wondering why everyone was saying LS1, but then i saw it was changed.... All in all i find it believable if its an LT1. I like those SVT focuses too, you got a 2 door?

Yeah, 3 door and this post is for real, I don't BS or like people who do. I have been killed before, GT's 3000 GT's, Turbo Eclipses, Even by mildly modified LT1's. But I do have my fair share of kills under my belt of all the listed cars as well. This in a car that gets 34 mpg on the highway and stops from 60 in under 120 ft.
This has developed quickly because a lot of people who don't know called the BS Flag and I have spent too much time defending my car. I know my car isn't the fastest, but it is quick and I would not spend this kind of energy on BS.

Yeah. Wouldn't wanna mistake him beating an LS1 now, would we? :wink:


Yeah, that's exactly it. :rolleyes: