You know the Mclaren F1's 'spoiler'.....

.....does anyone have any pics of the spoiler in use - ie not in its normal down position - on the back of the F1? (the bit above and behind the exhaust silencers that both deflects the hot air from the engine (and brakes?) and deflects the airflow from the top of the car to aide it in slowing down)

Many thanks

hurstg01

Hope this helps:

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/6476/f1yellow2j7tm.jpg
http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/1581/f1yellow2h0ai.jpg
http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/8358/f1yellow2i2vk.jpg

Hope this helps:

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/6476/f1yellow2j7tm.jpg
http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/1581/f1yellow2h0ai.jpg
http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/8358/f1yellow2i2vk.jpg


thats the baby!!! now, anyone have a picture of it in use with the car in motion? i've seen a few of the McMerc SLR with its airbrake up, so i wondered if the fountain of knowledge that is this forum can come up trumps?.............................

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/744/xp4z2i1tl.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5161/xp4z2x6ek.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9079/xp4z4e4ej.jpg

There are a few more pics of the wing up while it's leaving Crystal Cove. There's a thread with more pics. Notice the gold reflecting off of it in the first and last pic :D

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/744/xp4z2i1tl.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5161/xp4z2x6ek.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9079/xp4z4e4ej.jpg

There are a few more pics of the wing up while it's leaving Crystal Cove. There's a thread with more pics. Notice the gold reflecting off of it in the first and last pic :D

fan-bloody-tastic :thumbsup: :worshippy

The 'spolier's technical name is "Brake Balance Foil" as I recall. It has three positions - flush, halfway up, and all the way up as seen in those three screenshots of the Yellow F1. Halfway up is somewhere in the 30˚ range and all the way up is really more like 50˚ or so. The air brake on the SLR seems to go almost vertical in comparison.

http://a8.cpimg.com/image/92/5F/32707218-3d3e-01C0012D-.jpg

There is a knob on the pod to the left of the steering wheel in the F1 that allows the driver to manually adjust the angle of the foil between the three positions. When the knob is left in the flush position the foil will pop up automatically under braking.

I got to see one in action first hand the night I saw Elon Musk's F1 on the road. I was following his car towards the freeway and when he braked to make the 90-degree right onto the freeway onramp the foil popped up for just a few seconds, exposing it's golden underside. I have to say without a doubt it is one of the coolest things I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing while driving. :sunglasse

There's an excellent photo of the foil in its full-up position in Driving Ambition. I think I have it scanned and will share it here later. :cool:

>8^)
ER

As promised - the shot from Driving Ambition...

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/F6/7B/53309942-772b-02410258-.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1/foil_up.jpg)

...and of course it is clickable for something a little better. :cool:

If you don't own "The Bible" (as it is referred to at times) and you're reading this thread, you really owe it to yourself to get a copy. Christmas is coming - put it at the top of your wishlists. ;)

>8^)
ER

Got a shot of the knob on the dash that controls the spoiler?

Thanks!

Got a shot of the knob on the dash that controls the spoiler?

Thanks!

I'm sorry, but no photos exist of the knob on the dash that controls the spoiler. It's a tragedy of epic porportions, I know... :lol2: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1/DSC00617.jpg)

Hint: Click the laughing smiley ;)

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ER

I just fell off my chair! :D

ahhhh a wise guy eh? and yes you must get 'driving ambition' i had to go and order my copy after finding these forums...

If I get another copy it's going to eat into my McLaren budget...have already gone through 7 of them (I did give 5 away eventually)! :)

If I get another copy it's going to eat into my McLaren budget...have already gone through 7 of them (5 were given away eventually)! :)

WTF? My only copy from 1999 still resides beside my other F1 publications, road tests, literature, etc. Albeit, devoid of it's pull-out which is professionally mounted and framed to celebrate the F1's GLORIOUS chassis history! :)

I've got a 1st edition as well as a couple of 2nd edition and a 2nd hand 2nd edition for regular browsing.

There's five at my house, however one copy isn't mine. You can never have too much of a good thing. :bigthumb:

One torn and tattered original, one sealed original, one new copy to replace the tattered copy, one new copy with the spine torn that will be great for scanning (someday).

I also bought an additional copy of the poster to get framed before I got the last two copies of the book, but I've been slacking on that.

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ER

WTF? My only copy from 1999 still resides beside my other F1 publications, road tests, literature, etc. Albeit, devoid of it's pull-out which is professionally mounted and framed to celebrate the F1's GLORIOUS chassis history! :)

Were you able to get the creases out? How?

That's what ruins the poster on the other side for me.

I think the image on the poster side is unflattering. :disappoin The color looks drab in comparison to what it should and it's a bit cliche to park a fast car next to a fast airplane IMO. It's not as if the two have any direct relation to my knowledge. :dunno:

I was acutally planning to frame the important side. ;)

Stratoraptor posted a tiny thumbnail once of a much better image they could have used for the DA poster of that same car and plane. It definitely would have gotten my vote over the one they chose, as would a few of the other photos from the great book,like that overhead shot of the six cars (F1, GTR '95/'96/'97, LM & GT) or even the image I'm currently using as my avatar.

>8^)
ER

As promised - the shot from Driving Ambition...

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/F6/7B/53309942-772b-02410258-.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1/foil_up.jpg)

...and of course it is clickable for something a little better. :cool:

If you don't own "The Bible" (as it is referred to at times) and you're reading this thread, you really owe it to yourself to get a copy. Christmas is coming - put it at the top of your wishlists. ;)

>8^)
ER

Thanks for reminding me Peleton. If only someone would let me drive one for a Christmas present...

You quoted that whole thing for your one line? Sheesh!

Meh, I like the picture sooo much so I quoted the entre thing (plus I was kinda lazy :))

Stratoraptor posted a tiny thumbnail once of a much better image they could have used for the DA poster of that same car and plane.

I guess it was larger than a thumbnail, but I like this shot better. Anyone have a larger/better version of it?

http://a8.cpimg.com/image/C0/71/53357248-58ff-01C2014E-.jpg

I figured I would share it again because the thread where it was had the image embeded into the forum, and of course all those linked files are now dead and gone. :(

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ER

That pic doesn't seem to be any better than the pic on the poster. Both fairly poor... :(

Car's look best against nice modern buildings during the day or sitting still in the midst of motion ie. streaked neon lights at night. Agree?

You just like disagreeing with me... :lol:

Like I said before, but maybe it wasn't clear - I think this would have been a better choice than the one they used - however, not necessarily the best choice. I assume they wanted to use chassis #075 for a reason and there aren't many great shots of that car floating around. Of these two, I would take that one. It's certainly more vibrant and I think it is a better angle of the car.

= = = = =

NEWS FLASH!!

I noticed something for the first time about #075 when I dug up this picture earlier. It is the only F1 I can recall seeing that doesn't have the the thick black protective undercoating painted black along the lower edge of the body between the wheels. :eek:

I went and scanned my road car folders for others like that and surprisingly I found several. Beal's #042 didn't have the undercoating in a few early shots, but does in most of the later ones. Schaevitz' yellow #014 doesn't have it. The "Ueno-look" road car from Japan doesn't seem to have it from what I can tell. XP3 didn't have it originally, but does now that it's with Gordon. The same is true of XP4 and XP5 in their early shots versus the more recent ones.

It's very strange to find something like this after staring at so many pictures of these cars for so many years. You would think that even a minor change would immediately jump out at you. Considering this isn't isolated to one single car, I'm somewhat shocked that this is the first time I have ever noticed it. :screwy:

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ER

Possibly the coating is there, but the owners elected to have it painted in the body colour?

Naaah, I just like disagreeing with you!

Seriously, what I wrote about the pic does not contradict you...at least not IMO. I said both were fairly poor pics and you say this one's better, but agree that both are not great poster material. So where's the disagreement? And where's that mountain-out-of-a-molehill icon!
:wtf: :yugosmili

:lol:

Possibly the coating is there, but the owners elected to have it painted in the body colour?

Possibly - but I'm going to say no... :lol:

Looking at the poster of #075, which gives the best representation of that section of any of the cars I mentioned, it shows no line where that thicker protective coating would typically start. Others may be different. :cool:

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ER

Like I said before, but maybe it wasn't clear - I think this would have been a better choice than the one they used - however, not necessarily the best choice. I assume they wanted to use chassis #075 for a reason and there aren't many great shots of that car floating around. Of these two, I would take that one. It's certainly more vibrant and I think it is a better angle of the car.

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ER

i think the 3/4 view of the f1 is by far the most sexy angle to view the f1 at. it shows so much more of the cars curves, features, and design, that you just cant get with a standard plain ol' side view... i had to throw design in the equasion so we're all sure im talking about the f1, and not a girl :rofl: ... but i agree with peloton that the photo he posted shouldve been the poster choice, instead of the one that was. in fact i really think that the photo at the end of DA with the 7 different variations of the car would have made for an excellent poster! :bigthumb: ... btw, do you think maybe the one that was chosen was done so for a reason, like they wanted to showcase the f1 in sort of a duel/drag race type setting up against the jet? to illustrate how phenomenol the car is by pitting it up against one of britain's fastest, most elite fighter jets? just a random thought... but as far as backgrounds for f1 photography, id say any background similar to where the 'clinic model' was first photographed, excellent photos, or any shot of the f1 clearly leaving any other "supercar" in its wake :biggrin: like the one peloton posted recently of the enzo getting :owned: by the f1... what a great shot... would love to see that video... its lurking around out there somewhere...

The side view is nice enough for me to hang it up versus the stats. I definitely agree that there are more flattering angles, however.

As for the creases, as soon as I got the book I flattened it on a table for about a month. It's decent.