Exhaust manifold

What you guys think about this manifold?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8008497609&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

i know ebay brands aren't that great, but it sounds pretty good, cheep too! anyone have any sugestions? i want to be running a turbonetics T04E 50 Trim on 21 PSI. anyone?

thanks!

You do not want to buy from ssautocrome. Their stuff is shit and will break after a couple runs. They look appealing to the eye but are junk. Try the one from dsmparts.com. It's about $450 but is worth it... :licka:

Just out of curosity... Do you have any experience with ssautocrome? just cause it's cheap doesn't mean it's shit. Notice it has a lifetime warranty against cracks. I don't know of any other companies that offer that. I've had mine on for over a year but i geuss that is only a couple runs...

It looks like it has non smooth bends in it to me

Just out of curosity... Do you have any experience with ssautocrome? just cause it's cheap doesn't mean it's shit. Notice it has a lifetime warranty against cracks. I don't know of any other companies that offer that. I've had mine on for over a year but i geuss that is only a couple runs...

There have been a lot of posts on here about ssautochrome. All of them tell how shitty their products are, and not to buy from them. Maybe you got lucky lol.

Yeah SSAutoChrome has a shitty reputation for a reason.

I had a SSautochrome turbo manifold for my SR20DET. Worked beautifully. Only flaw was that it didn't stay 'chrome', once you got it hot under heavy loads (high boostorzz!) it stripped all the pretty off and turned black.

Big deal.

The success of an exhasut manifold depends on the meterial it is created from. Unlike most parts of the engine, Exhaust manifolds are suppose to retain as much heat energy as possable. Using the wrong kind of metal will extreamly distroy this effectivness. Not to mention sheer off Bolts, warp flanges and give off high amounts of heat into your engine bay.

They say its made of Stainless Steel. I Wont trust anyone unless they specify the exact metal composit.

unless of course it's SBR or any highly reputable DSM vender

stay away, it won't fit correctly without major modification and it will break eventually

alright, thanks Guys!

When I eventually get a better turbo. I want to get all new oil lines and coolant lines. I also want a better manfold then the 1g. Now would an evo mani bolt on? or is true they require some moddification? If that is true, I might just go with a 2g manifold(that bolts right up right?). Thanks.

id say go for it...but reinforce the welds..odds are for the prices there crap

I would say stay away from ssautochrome, but with the lifetime warranty I'd check it out. Make sure that modifying the flanges does not violate the warranty because the ssautochrome manifolds are notorious for being slightly warped. It's your choice, personally I would try to go with an sbr manifold, tried and proven.

I've heard good and bad about ssautochrome... I guess its just a gamble if ya do it... I personally wouldn't trust em. My friend did and had no problem with them or the manifold but I still am unsure of them... Just my 2cents though.

yeah, just thought i'ed take a look, and try to get one for under $400. thanks gays! nothing like saving my ass again! ;)

I'm not tring to start a fight but everyone that posted in this thread with ACTUAL experience with ssautocrome has been positive. My manifold is fine after over a year of use, my brother just got one and it looks great (not on his car yet). I think most people say they are shit cause it's cheap. I'm gonna go on my own experience. Maybe everyone just gives em a bad rap cause they realized they could have gotten a manifold for 1/4 the price.

Ok, so... what you suggesting? should i get it? i really dont mind knowing its cheap, as long as it performs well.

I'm not tring to start a fight but everyone that posted in this thread with ACTUAL experience with ssautocrome has been positive. My manifold is fine after over a year of use, my brother just got one and it looks great (not on his car yet). I think most people say they are shit cause it's cheap. I'm gonna go on my own experience. Maybe everyone just gives em a bad rap cause they realized they could have gotten a manifold for 1/4 the price.

Very true. I don't see a problem with off brand parts as long as they perform. As far as I can tell, the ssautochrome performs very well on my friends Talon.

Anyone know anything about OBX racing? and this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-Racing-Turbo-Manifold-Eclipse-4G63-1G2G-GST-GSX-DSM_W0QQitemZ8010379481QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Manifold? i want to get started on my t3 turbo install, and have the E-prom in the mail now, getting socketed by My Uncle for DSMlink, and the software is sitting here, and i need Some BIG power! any sugestions?

(...anyone have a 50 trim for sale :naughty: ?)

Also, any input on this intercooler kit???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2G-DSM-FMIC-Intercooler-kit-gsx-tsi-talon-eclipse-gst_W0QQitemZ8010751097QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

The manifold looks like it should flow awesome, but damn is that intercooler kit expensive. I think it would be cheaper to get something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-MOUNT-XX-LARGE-INTERCOOLER-ECLIPSE-CRX-ACCORD-WRX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8009670 108

Then, I'd get some 3" piping and do it myself. Thats just how I would do it though.

A lot of people get ripped off from the EBAY manifolds since they say lifetime warranty BUT its against factory defects NOT cracks !!! Well I saw on SSautochrome its says against cracks so i would personally buy it since its says its made from stainless steel and lifetime warranty against cracks so its sound good. Also the design looks cool and its not that expensive. Cheap doesnt mean its crap.
Example. B&M short shifter VS Ebay replica ... no complains so far about broken shifters or broken gearboxes. Also same thing with many blow off valves vs say Greddy Type-S replica $70 vs Greddy Type-S $220. If it gets the job done and it looks good well BUY IT. Most times people pay a lot for the name brand not the product itself.

Good luck choosing. Also that intercooler looks good but its expensive. Maybe you can find a used or cheaper install kit. My friend bought an intercooler from EBAy and he is very happy with it.

They have a warranty? Lol. And how are you going to hold them to it?

I don't hate ssautocrap cause of their parts quality which many people have said is crap, but some have said is fine. I hate them because they are INCREDIBLY RUDE to people. I posted a bunch of their quotes in their feedback to customers in another thread. Along the lines of "you're a sniveling bitch" etc. Maybe it's just me but I would NEVER do business with someone like that. Go into a grocery store: customer "I had a bad experience with your shampoo." Manager "go fuck yourself." Lol, they would be out of business within 5 days but its the internet soooo...

The manifold looks like it should flow awesome, but damn is that intercooler kit expensive. I think it would be cheaper to get something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-MOUNT-XX-LARGE-INTERCOOLER-ECLIPSE-CRX-ACCORD-WRX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8009670 108

Then, I'd get some 3" piping and do it myself. Thats just how I would do it though.

I was always told to be cautious when dealing with E-bay cores. thats what i want to do, make my own pipeing kit... i want to try my best to keep my Foggs to, i LOVE them. but if thats a good core, let me know, and i'll be all over it!

With a Front mount, i need a new Radiator right? a local friend of mine said if you dont change the radaitor with a frontmount, you'll defiantly get crankwalk from overheating, he said something about getting a "Celcious..." i dont remember exactly what its called, but one like whats stock on the EVO.

But that OBX manifold is good? you think a Trial wastegate will fit that Sh*t??? lol. i want it... and i want it NOW!!! :banghead:

I don't see any reason why you would need a new radiator if you get a front mount. I have never heard of anyone gettin CW from overheating. lol The CW is caused by something with the excessive use of the clutch in the 7 bolts. I guess they can't handle the abuse or something, I donno. Thats why I'm gonna start building up a 6 bolt and then just drop it in the car when its finished. :iceslolan

From what I can see, the wastegate should bolt right up to that manifold. Its a 40mm wastegate, right? It sounds good and all but like Eclipse4ever said, the warrenties don't usually cover cracking. On that OBX it says:

"Lifetime warranty from manufacturer defects."

If it cracks, your screwed unless you can or know someone who can weld stainless for ya. Personally, I have a friend who can weld anything for me, so I'd buy it. But, thats just me. lol :rolleyes:

thanks gays! nothing like saving my ass again! ;)

Hey now, that's not nice. :grinno:

Hey now, that's not nice. :grinno:

i ment GUYS!!!!!!!! my BAD!!! :lol:

anyone have any suggestions about this core??? Seems like a pretty good buy!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVERSAL-XX-LARGE-FRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitem Z8010145978QQrdZ1

anyone have any suggestions about this core??? Seems like a pretty good buy!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVERSAL-XX-LARGE-FRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitem Z8010145978QQrdZ1

That's the one I've been planing on getting. A lot of people have run them on our cars. There are threads with pics etc over on tuners. Seems like a damn good deal to me.

alrighty then, i just bought it! $181 shipped! not bad as long as its a decent core.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8010381539&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT

I hope it is. anyone know anything about mounting it? do i need to make custom mounts? can i buy them? also... piping kits? where and how to get that?

In order to mount that large intercooler, your gonna have to more than likely remove your bumper core. You should be able to mount it to any part of the frame, I haven't tore mine all apart yet to find out.

As for your piping... Summit Racing has all the bends and straights that you will need. I think my brother had about 90 dollars in his piping. Just measure everything out, find out what bends you need, measure your straight pipes and order up plenty. It never hurts to have a little extra laying around the garage. :rolleyes: :iceslolan

ALL you need to know about mounting/piping with that exact core is on tuners. I'll try and find the link.

Edit: I couldn't find the thread (lost somewhere in my million favortites). So I just uploaded one of the ones I had saved from the thread. He got those hangers from home depot I think. He said he sat on it and it was solid so it's not going anywhere.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Nayr747/509528_124_full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Nayr747/509528_127_full.jpg

Here's a couple threads I found that might help.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201087&highlight=ebay+intercooler
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185084

I donno about those hangers... They don't look like they'd be supportive to that much weight. I think that when I do mine, I'm gonna make a 1/4 steel bar to go across the bumper core mounts and then mount my intercooler to that. If there are mounts on the underside of the intercooler too, I'll make brackets to attach it to the underside of the frame as well.

While I'm at it I might as well just take out my stock fans too and put a bigger setup between the intercooler and radiator... lol :rolleyes:

Damn, I need some more money to do all this. :evillol:

I hope you're going to be writing a tech article on this installation, complete with piping part numbers. :biggrin:

I hope you're going to be writing a tech article on this installation, complete with piping part numbers. :biggrin:

me? Yeah, i probably will... found the pipes off summit racing for pretty cheap... but i'm going full 2.5" instead of 3" but, it'll still be cool!
check it out, heres the core.

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7461/picture0245qb.th.jpg (http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0245qb.jpg)

Any one have Good Mounting ideas for this bad boy!?

Here is the mount we made for my bro's car. It goes from the left to the right core supports and looks stronger than those brakets. It's 1/8 inch steel 3" wide and about 42" at the wide end. there are two holes on either end to bolt to the car and two halfway for the frount mount. It was easy to make and replaces the fiberglass core. you can by 3" by 48" by 1/8" steel at menards or home depot. BTW i think my bro has the same front mount. here are some pics.
http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/4650/fmicmount0010ae.th.jpg (http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fmicmount0010ae.jpg)

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/3293/fmicmount0031bi.th.jpg (http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fmicmount0031bi.jpg)

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1854/fmicmount0048jy.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fmicmount0048jy.jpg)

Oh yeah i forgot to add: I personally will never buy from obx. when my brother first got his eclipse he got three obx gauges, all mechanical except water temp, the boost line was so shitty it exploded under stock boost, the the oil pressure gauge line broke (several times) and sprayed oil all over the car. As far as the manifold goes i'm not sure it looks badass though, i think obx also makes an intake mainfold for cheap. That was like 2 1/2 years ago so who knows maybe they've improved their quality.

There we go, that's the exact same kind of mount I'm gonna make. Do you remember how much the steel was at Home Depot? Did it secure the intercooler as well as I think it will?

Well my brothers car still is not running, but we put it on and it felt really sturdy, I'm not sure how much it cost but it wasn't more than like $20, It took forever to find steel at those stores but when you go there like six days a weak buying bolts or tools you eventually know you way around the store. They had thicker steel (which i don't think is necessary) but i think it only came in 2' sections.

I like the price of that core. But, the only thing that would bother me enough from getting it, is that the inlet/outlet is 3 inches. I know that that is better, but I want to run a fmic with my dejon upper ic pipes, and those are 2 1/4 inches. That means I would have to do either 2 reducer couplers, or just one big reducer coupler. Would it make any sense to do that, or just look for an intercooler with 2 1/2 inlet/outlet so I would only need to run one reducer. Please excuse me if this doesn't make any sense - I'm really tired and a little buzzed lol.

I like the price of that core. But, the only thing that would bother me enough from getting it, is that the inlet/outlet is 3 inches. I know that that is better, but I want to run a fmic with my dejon upper ic pipes, and those are 2 1/4 inches. That means I would have to do either 2 reducer couplers, or just one big reducer coupler. Would it make any sense to do that, or just look for an intercooler with 2 1/2 inlet/outlet so I would only need to run one reducer. Please excuse me if this doesn't make any sense - I'm really tired and a little buzzed lol.

Makes perfect sense to me. If you can find a reducer from 2 3/4" to 2 1/4" (I just looked around with no luck) then here is an intercooler better suited for what your looking for. I think...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-ECLIPSE-TALON-DSM-GST-GSX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8012356 692QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Its from the same guy that Black99GST just bought his intercooler from, it's just a slightly smaller intercooler for a smaller street setup.

Hey, I did a search and this site has a 3.00 - 2.25 reducer. They are a good site. I ordered my boost gauge and pod from them.
http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=34

Wow those are really cheap, usually reducers are like $40-50 for a good quality ones. Those ones look good and are half the cost.

Damn, those are sweet and cheap.

where does that mout to on the car? that bracket looks pretty sturdy, only its steel, and heavy!!! but, sh*t w/e works!!! Also, can home-depo cut it like that for me? all i have is oxy-fuel and it will not come out with that nice of cuts.

When you take the bumper cover off, remove the actual bumper and run the piece across the top of the bumper mounts and run a bolt down through the holes and then mount your intercooler to that... Home Depot might cut it, I'm not sure.

would it be to much of a hassle to ask for some pics of the core on your Bro's car? i just dont get how this will all pull together, and i sure as hell dont want my intercooler draggin on the ground as i pull ont of the gurage on its first voyage with a front mount.

I"ll take some pics tomorrow. Just as a side note the steel support is lighter than the fiberglass core it replaces.

I have a friend with an experience with ssautocrome,

this was for a turbo setup for his honda.

Manifold arrive..... sweet, finish bolting everything up, car Is boosting. We went to Mc Donalds to get something to eat, that was four blocks away, so before we went to go eat we check for leaks, nope no leaks, but the chrome is all burn off, ..... ok no biggie . 2 days later engine blew on him , and I know what are you thinking " Is a honda it gots to blow" but what happend was , that the manifold broke from the turbo flange making the turbo hit the road "on the freeway" braking the oil lines from the turbo. stupid guy din't even stop after two exits away.

would it be to much of a hassle to ask for some pics of the core on your Bro's car? i just dont get how this will all pull together, and i sure as hell dont want my intercooler draggin on the ground as i pull ont of the gurage on its first voyage with a front mount.

If you use those things in the pics I posted it's pretty straightforward and sturdy. Why would you think it wouldn't be?

I posted about them before. Every time I start my car, I'm glad I didn't end up with the turbo I bought from them. Check it: Here. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=443279&highlight=auto+chrome)

alright, the pipse arrived today, along with my BOV flange... heres a few pics of the pipes and the summit part # is 622003. its hard to read... i chose 2.5" pipe with a 2.5" radius 180 bend. just waiting on the cuppling material i purchased off Ebay for 36.99 shipped for 2 FEET of it from Siliconeintakes (highly sugested) ! and then 2 Reducers from someone else for $20 shipped for both!!!

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/737/picture0253tr.th.jpg (http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0253tr.jpg)

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6683/picture0263jd.th.jpg (http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0263jd.jpg)

EDIT: just popped in my head... i have the stock t25... and i'm trying to run my intercooler pipes like this:

http://www.dsmtuner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180440

How can i do this with the extended compressor on the T25? can i just cut it off?

Anone have any input at all??? i'm hopeing to get a T04E 50 trim, or 60. not sure... but i want to get the front mount set up on the car ASAP!!!

The pictures in the link didn't work for me, but I already know how the setup goes. lol... Ok, here's what I'm gonna do...

I'm not gonna waste my time with my t25 anymore. I'm just gonna get like a 57 trim or larger turbo, stick a filter right on it and run my piping down and to the drivers side into my FMIC. Then I'll run it up and stick the GM MAF in, followed by my BOV and then into a N/T throttle body and into my soon to come built 6 bolt motor... :biggrin:

For you, I'm not sure how much money you really wanna put into it. (I'm a nut and have nothing better to spend my money on, lol) So, I'd say go with what you want. In your sig, it says 300whp... If thats all more you need then I'd say go with a 16g and not even bother with the GM MAF and Translator unless you wanna blow atmosphere with you BOV. I mean, you can blow atmosphere without it too, but it will be running rich whenever it vents... Ummm, if you wanna try to get that much power with the t25 then I think you can cut that extended part of the compressor off without any problems. But, don't take my word for it. lol...

If you just want a 16g I've got an extra one sitting on the shelf I'll sell. I was gonna put it in my car and then decided to just go with a bigger turbo because its just not gonna be enough power for me, lol. Just lemme know and I'll get ya pictures and whatever ya need.

Oh yeah, did you figure out how your gonna mount your FMIC yet?

yeah, i think i'm going to try to put the brace that you made for your brothers for the bottem of the core, and for the top i'm going to but the mounts that Nayr747 put pics of. seems like that will be pretty tough. so... how much for that Evo III?

A friend of mine may want it... i'm looking for a bit more then 300Hp.... i'm hopeing to get a hold of a 60 Trim w/ the stage 5 wheel. Hopefully putting down about 410 Hp-450 hp @ the wheels.... i'll be happy with that for a while... atleast a few weeks... i'm just like you, nothing better to spend my money on...HA HA HA

alright, now back to the real reason this thread was made, anyone know anything about the exhaust manifold OBX makes?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-TURBO-MANIFOLD-HEADER-1g2g-4g63-Eclipse-GST-GSX-DSM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33632QQitemZ7984354 711

I'm thinking about picking one up for my 60 trim T04E... but want something good, not crap! something that will perform.

If you just want a 16g I've got an extra one sitting on the shelf I'll sell. I was gonna put it in my car and then decided to just go with a bigger turbo because its just not gonna be enough power for me, lol. Just lemme know and I'll get ya pictures and whatever ya need.

Oh yeah, did you figure out how your gonna mount your FMIC yet?

So what kind of 16g do you have? size wastegate?brand new? where'd you get it?how much you looking to get for it?

So what kind of 16g do you have? size wastegate?brand new? where'd you get it?how much you looking to get for it?

Sorry I missed the updates on this thread guys...

Ok, I got this 16g off ebay with every intention of putting it on my car until recently when I realized I didn't wanna piss around with my 7 bolt or a 16g anymore... Tomorrow I am going to pick up a 6 bolt motor and then I'll be spending my winter building it up and I could use the money from the turbo and a few other things towards the engine. I'm not gonna worry about a turbo until I actually get the motor in the car. Besides, a 16g just isn't gonna cut it for the setup I'm building now...

Anyways... When I bought it from ebay, the seller slipped by me the fact that it was a small 16g. (I was under the assumption that it was a big 16g, definetly not gonna cut it for my new setup.) I have looked this whole turbo over now though and I can confirm that it has absolutly no shaft play and it is VERY heavily ported. It has a larger 34mm internal wastegate too. It appears to be a fairly new turbo with not much use on it. There is no doubt in my mind that this turbo will spool up incredibly fast... I also have a Hahn super 16g compressor cover that will fit 16g's. I'm not sure how easily this could be put on the 16g or what all it involves but I'm not gonna be using it anytime soon and will sell it with the turbo also if desired... Here are the ebay links for when I bought both these items... I'm looking for about $400 for the small 16g and super 16g compressor cover together.

Hahn Super 16g Compressor cover...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4580449997&category=107066

Small 16g Turbo...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8006247008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT

I also have a set of barely used 550cc injectors that I am selling... I paid $300 for these and I haven't used them yet. As far as I'm concerned they aren't doing me any good sitting on the shelf either... I'd like to get at least $200 for these if anyone is interested... I'll post some pictures if anyone wants them.

Thanks...

Think Im just going to buy a new turbo. Thanks and good luck with the 6 bolt.

Then I'll run it up and stick the GM MAF in, followed by my BOV and then into a N/T throttle body and into my soon to come built 6 bolt motor...
You should have the BOV before the GM MAF cause then you can vent without any problems.

Sorry i kinda forgot to post pics of the mount on my bros car but that goes on top of the core support not on the bottom (If it was on the bottom the front munt would hit the ground) I'll try to fix my damn camera and get sme pics soon.