95z28 Vs 2000 Ss

well my buddy just bought him self a 00 ss camaro and damn it's a sweet ride well we raced twice i took him on the first run but the second run he launched good and took me by a carlength now my question is what in the hell do i have to do to smoke a ss. I've seen this guy who did the lt4 conversion with a rear mounted turbo and he's pushing over 500rwhp. so i'm willing to take any suggestions

Quick easy and cheap route would be Nitirous.

For general more power doing the LT4 swap and upgrading internals fuel system etc

For lotsa power: All of the above w/ turbo(s) but of course you are looking at 6-10k$$$$

Yeah i know nitrous is the easiest route but i hate having to depend on the bottle. i'm thinking of just going with the remote mount turbo. It's only 2,900 bucks so i think i'm going with the turbo. how much psi can a lt1 with strong enternals.

Strong internals don't always mean you can run more boost.
If you have upgraded internals, you should also know what compression ratio you are running at. That is overall the most important determining factor to how much boost you can run.

My WS.6 will be 11:1 compression with a fully forged motor. I wouldn't be able to run much boost at all on it. Maybe 5 PSI. And that might be pushing it, although it would make very good numbers.

Luos isn't the lower compression engines better for turbo, right?

Yup.

so what would be the ideal compression ration for a turbo car?

7-8 range. A civic can take 12psi on stock internals.

Quick easy and cheap route would be Nitirous.

For general more power doing the LT4 swap and upgrading internals fuel system etc

For lotsa power: All of the above w/ turbo(s) but of course you are looking at 6-10k$$$$
:screwy: LT4 swap?.

Xeno, tell me the difference between the LT4 and LT1 blocks?

List off all of your mods?. So I know exactly what you have done cause if your that close and the only way he beat you is by hooking real well. Your most likely already faster but with just a few more mods to compliment the mods you already have. You should be able to beat his with relative ease.

so what would be the ideal compression ration for a turbo car?
Depends on the motor and the car. And how much boost you wanna run.

1995 Z28 Camaro- K&n Cai, Slp Headers, 3" Flowmaster Catback, 3.73 Gears, 1.8" Drop, Hotchkis Suspension, Custom Tunning, Msd Ignition, Port & Polished Heads, Granatelli Mass Air Flow, Air Foil. And Tranny Shifts Really Firm

you do realize that it's barely faster than an ls1 z28 right?

The first race i got the perfect launch and i took him by about 2 car lengths. the second time i spun too much tires and he took me by a car length.

Tranny shifts firm , as in has shift kit or just that its healthy?. Did you do the little free mods. Like TB bypass and IAT relocator?. Do you platinum plugs in there?. cause if so, ask around. Most LT1's have found 5 horse from switching to non platinum. Some 1.6 roller rockers with give you about 10 horse alone (probably more cause of your supporting mods) and a more aggressive cam, you will distroy him. I don't get why you didn't get a cam when you had the heads off though and did they change your head hardware (springs, studs , rockers & so on) when they ported?

the thing that kills me is that i get no traction at my launch, i try launching at 2,000rpm and i spin too much, i've got some 3.73 so that might have something to do with it but once i hook up it hauls ass

in terms of launchin and not spinning get yourself a torque converter

Tranny shifts firm , as in has shift kit or just that its healthy?. Did you do the little free mods. Like TB bypass and IAT relocator?. Do you platinum plugs in there?. cause if so, ask around. Most LT1's have found 5 horse from switching to non platinum. Some 1.6 roller rockers with give you about 10 horse alone (probably more cause of your supporting mods) and a more aggressive cam, you will distroy him. I don't get why you didn't get a cam when you had the heads off though and did they change your head hardware (springs, studs , rockers & so on) when they ported?

I bought the car about a month ago and it already had the mods. but i dont' know why the guy didn't put a different cam? The trans has a shift kit installed and that's why it has kneck snapping shifts, when i bought the guy gave the crane 1.6 roller rockers with the lt4 hotcam but i haven't got to installing them.

in terms of launchin and not spinning get yourself a torque converter

it's not the torque converter it's just too much hp/tq
:evillol:

the thing that kills me is that i get no traction at my launch, i try launching at 2,000rpm and i spin too much, i've got some 3.73 so that might have something to do with it but once i hook up it hauls ass
Get yourself some DR's and race him with those. If your losing traction and within a car length of him. Your faster. You just need to take advantage of that power and no a stall will not hell. If anything it will make the traction issue worse cause your going to be launching at a higher RPM that has more power and more torque and is going to break the tires loose ,easier.

I bought the car about a month ago and it already had the mods. but i dont' know why the guy didn't put a different cam? The trans has a shift kit installed and that's why it has kneck snapping shifts, when i bought the guy gave the crane 1.6 roller rockers with the lt4 hotcam but i haven't got to installing them.
Put them on, they will make a decent difference lift wise with your stock cam and that will really help power wise.

1995 Z28 Camaro- K&n Cai, Slp Headers, 3" Flowmaster Catback, 3.73 Gears, 1.8" Drop, Hotchkis Suspension, Custom Tunning, Msd Ignition, Port & Polished Heads, Granatelli Mass Air Flow, Air Foil. And Tranny Shifts Really Firm
Well, I thought you mentioned stronger internals.
Anyways, you should be safe with 6-7 PSI on that motor. I wouldn't run anymore than that.
It also depends on the tune. Good tuner can get more boost safely.

well, I know my stock tc is a 2000 and if I stall it at 2k or higher my tires start spining.. sicne thts the stall speed...

I'm figuring his stock TC also has a stall speed of around 2k and thats what he's describing

whats the best street legal tires that offer the best grip. because i have some new g-force tires and if i'm driving at 45 and drop the gas i easily spin the tires

mickey thompson ET streets, from what I have heard

Stock TC's don't stall that high. Its more like 1300 rpm's

mine breaks loose at 2000

Thats the point when the power is overtaking your breaks but if you to test it just holding the car in place not really applying full breaking power. You would notice forward motion at 1300 or so. Either that or your tranny is about to head up to the pearly gates.

Thats the point when the power is overtaking your breaks


what are you talking about, my car has no power :icon16:

its not hard to get a lt1 to smoke a ls1 ss at all. all u need is a few basic mods like heads and cam. hell sometimes that alone will put u in the running along with a good tune

Heads and cam is basic?? :rofl:

well 2 me it is, im in the world of people droping 12,000 bucks on engines and turbo's and s/c being smaked on like every week, so compaired to what im around all the time that head and cam job isnt nothing much but a common job. folks down here dont have nothing better to do than spend money making a fast car.

lol
amen philly

oh yeah i 4got u know how we do it, hey when u come home ill have to meet u at the shop so u can meet everyone. i already told folks about u, we need a real 3rd gen around here. i got a blueprinted t56 that our engine guy built so now all i need is a few small things and the swap is on

So philly, do you still drive your camaro now?

sweet dj, count on it man, i'll for sure go to the shop. then after that we can roll up to gandy in a group of sick cars and send the bitches and posers home crying :evillol:

yeah im all for that cause u know they will be all hanging at the sonic by gandy...ill make the import guys shit themselves when they hear those dumps roaring at them lol. and link yes i still drive my car, im still buying shit to get this on the road but im almost done. i have the main parts and a few extra's, im getting alot of help from guys in my club im just picky about certain things so im taking my time and spending my money right the first time. but she still lays the smack down when she wants

Nice!!!!

ur getting dumps? as in electric cut-outs? if so, i'm jeoulous...

Can you use a cutout on a catback?

no dumps as in hardly no pipe at all off the headers lol...i may get the electric one im still thinking of it

Can you use a cutout on a catback?

usually yes, you can find a kit for cutouts on whatever size exhaust you ahve....

Cutouts...dumps...full exhaust...

I must decide. Thinking just race mufflers and dumps for now.

i like full exhaust personally, i just prefer a near-stock look...

I can hang tips on it and still have dumps. :lol:

i already can't hear myself think in my car... don't need it any louder lol