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airwave_assassin
10-20-2005, 04:58 PM
ok i'm saving up for a turbo to put in my 2.2l 97 cav.
should i install a new exhaust before i do this sincei ts going to be pushing more air? also is this turbo something me and a friend can install. i like to think we are pretty decent on working on cars, but neither of us have ever messed with a turbo. also from the pics i've seen it looks as if the turbo pulley is in the same place the alternator was. do you have to relocate the altenator for this?

Thor06
10-20-2005, 10:07 PM
Do you even know how a turbo works? It will require lots of headache, money, lots of time, and some fabrication know how to turbo a NT especially a 2.2. Go look for how a turbo car works before you worry about modding. You will need oil lines, possible coolant lines, the turbo itself, a new exhaust manifold, exhaust from the turbo back, bigger injectors, fuel pump, some sort of logging device, a fuel controller, the list goes on and on. My advice: on a 2.2 OHV dont waste your time or your money.

airwave_assassin
10-21-2005, 12:40 AM
i found a place that sold everything you needed for the install. but yeah that does sound like a hassle. can we all say..."F**K THAT!" haha thanks for bitch slapping me back in line thor.

4dr92cavi4cyl
10-21-2005, 01:45 PM
All I have to say is, turbo pulley, LMAO!
Silly wabbit, pulleys are for superchargers.

Actually, a supercharger would be less headache and more reliable than a turbo, just not as cool as a turbo IMO.

OverAllComa
10-21-2005, 04:06 PM
Do they make blowers for a 2.2 ohv? I guess a centrifugal wouldn't be outlandish, but I just didn't think anyone made one.

airwave_assassin
10-21-2005, 04:28 PM
http://www.jtuners.com/product_info.php?pName=22l-2200-turbo-kit&cName=turbo-stage-1&osCsid=30e2724c7211e18416d7c1cc0c947ecd

95cavspeed
10-21-2005, 06:31 PM
get that turbo off of ebay its a hundred bucks and it blows in like 2 psi it hooks at the end of ur intake its electric

PsychoJJ
10-21-2005, 07:38 PM
get that turbo off of ebay its a hundred bucks and it blows in like 2 psi it hooks at the end of ur intake its electric

......no comment.

Thor06
10-21-2005, 08:46 PM
get that turbo off of ebay its a hundred bucks and it blows in like 2 psi it hooks at the end of ur intake its electric
I have one... you are retarded:nutkick:

bh04
10-22-2005, 01:03 AM
get that turbo off of ebay its a hundred bucks and it blows in like 2 psi it hooks at the end of ur intake its electric

I have one... you are retarded:nutkick:

HAHA! I've got two so i'm running 4psi! Oh yeah. Not really.

With a turbo there would be quite a bit of stuff you would need new just like the second guy who posted in the forum was. I forgot who it was and I don't feel like looking back.

Go with SC. It would be more reliable like the other or same guy said. Less hassle.

airwave_assassin
10-22-2005, 01:56 AM
don't be pissed that my car is going to be a hell of a lot faster than yours...i have yet to fully change my mind yet, after reading up on it, it seems as if its not that hard of an install. but if the sc is easier and its got better bottom end then where do i find one, and do they even make one for the 2.2L?

PsychoJJ
10-22-2005, 02:06 AM
Well now wasnt that just uncalled for.

OverAllComa
10-22-2005, 09:29 AM
No one knows about my question? Blower for the 2.2OHV?

-Jayson-
10-22-2005, 10:52 AM
RSM racing sellings a supercharger kit for the 2.2L, and i think your too retarded to do this on your own. If you dont know the difference between a turbo and a supercharger, just stick to really really really simple mods.

OverAllComa
10-22-2005, 11:19 AM
Blech...RSM's got a centrifugal charger. Not a fan of those things.

public
10-22-2005, 11:31 AM
Blech...RSM's got a centrifugal charger. Not a fan of those things.


But they dooo work. Probably the easiest forced induction for the shadetree mechanic to install. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. It's all fun!

btw: have you checked the Forced Induction section over in the general section? Lots of help over there.

airwave_assassin
10-22-2005, 11:41 AM
i think your too retarded to do this on your own. If you dont know the difference between a turbo and a supercharger, just stick to really really really simple mods.

thanks for enlightening me... :shakehead

i'm actually pretty serious about this, so again i'm going to ask is there anything i will need to upgrade (that doesnt come along with the kit) before i install a turbo or sc?

-Jayson-
10-22-2005, 11:56 AM
ok heres what your gonna need

Turbo
Turbo manifold
All custom made piping
Intercooler
Bigger injectors
Colder Plugs
FMU SAFC something to adjust fuel pressure
WideBand 02 sensor to tune
Oil return and feed lines
A bigger fuel pump-optional
Boost guage
Fuel pressure guage
Various clamps, screws, hoses, and other little things

Alot of automotive skills. Your gonna need have the knowledge and skills to do things properly the first time to your car. Otherwise your gonna be doing it over and over untill you get it right. You need to learn what a turbo compressor map is. So you know what size turbo and what size comressor will work best for your setup and plans.

airwave_assassin
10-22-2005, 12:11 PM
and what about sc?
i might actually go with the sc

-Jayson-
10-22-2005, 01:51 PM
dude just give up, you obviously dont know enough about cars and forced induction to take on such a task. Spend a few months reading, then come back and try again. Im not gonna waste my time telling you how to do it, when its blaintly obvious you cant.

bh04
10-22-2005, 04:39 PM
dude just give up, you obviously dont know enough about cars and forced induction to take on such a task. Spend a few months reading, then come back and try again. Im not gonna waste my time telling you how to do it, when its blaintly obvious you cant.

Trying not to be a jerk....but since you have your car boosted, could you maybe explain a little bit of what he might need to know? Just to help him out a little bit? That's whay we are here for is to try and help others out.

Just a thought. I have nothign against you Jayson.

Thor06
10-22-2005, 09:05 PM
:1: to what bh04 said.

Heres my honest opinion: 2.2 OHV is NOT worth speed mods. You will drop around $3000 to get that thing s/c'd and you will only make around 160-175 hp and probably wont even see 14 second 1/4 miles. 2.2 OHV is just not a good speed platform.

jakegday
10-22-2005, 09:31 PM
Heres my honest opinion: 2.2 OHV is NOT worth speed mods. You will drop around $3000 to get that thing s/c'd and you will only make around 160-175 hp and probably wont even see 14 second 1/4 miles. 2.2 OHV is just not a good speed platform.

thats not your opinion, thats a damn fact

bh04
10-23-2005, 01:34 AM
thats not your opinion, thats a damn fact
:iagree: But I would think it would be neat to have mine SC'd since i'll have it for a while. And for that while, I might as well have it a faster than normal Cavalier. (around here that is)

95cavspeed
10-24-2005, 10:07 AM
yea if u got the money and time do it , at least u aint got those junk motors quad 4,or the 2.4L the 2.2L is the best out of them ive had bout 10 cavaliers and my 2.2L 5 speed performs fast enough for me but if u have the money go for it ,

Thor06
10-24-2005, 03:33 PM
2.2L is the best out of them
:rofl:

bh04
10-24-2005, 04:04 PM
...the 2.2L is the best out of them...


:loser:

Nah i'm just kidding man. How can the 2.2 be better than ther others? Performance wise no. But longitivity......not sure on that one either. Pleases explain your theory. Or opinion.

finalturismo
10-24-2005, 05:50 PM
for all your noobs that dont know about the internal workings of the 2.2ohv its not that bad. its a very well built engine and can take lots of stress. its not like sohc and dohcs the valves springs are under the valve cover and the cam is near the middle of the engine. its one of gms best balanced engines for applying street evenly among engine. if i were you upgrade your valve springs and get your head shaved on your engine. break in the springs than raise your rev limit to 7,000 rpm and get a 50 shot of spray. if you dont plan on upgrading it internaly than trash it for a 2.2 ecotec they got the same bolt pattern as the l4 2.2 ohv 134

PsychoJJ
10-24-2005, 07:14 PM
I sure do hope he was talking about the 2.2 eco but IM sure he wasnt. :lol:

95cavspeed
10-24-2005, 08:08 PM
ok well yes 2.2l of corse its not as powerful as th 2.4l or the quad 4 yea there faster but junk with a capital J
ive had a few bout a few cars with the quad 4 that needed a motor and guess what junkyards want top dolooar cause half of them in the junkyard are blown up trust me! i know i sell cars and the 2.4l i dunno to much but my friend has been through 2 motors already and i have had 10 cavaliers and i never i mean never could blow one up of corse if u run it out of oil but there gms best 4 cylinder ive seen them wit over 350000 miles on original motor so there the best motor to upgrade cause they take a beting belive me! i have experience wit these cars so talk smack bout the 2.2 but it will last longer then the quad junk and the 2.4l put togather all the 2.4l is the new version of the quad 4

95cavspeed
10-24-2005, 08:16 PM
oh and im talkin bout the 2.2L ohv motor i havent even been in a cav wit the ecotec yet but i bet its sweet

Thor06
10-24-2005, 11:01 PM
for all your noobs that dont know about the internal workings of the 2.2ohv its not that bad. its a very well built engine and can take lots of stress. its not like sohc and dohcs the valves springs are under the valve cover and the cam is near the middle of the engine. its one of gms best balanced engines for applying street evenly among engine. if i were you upgrade your valve springs and get your head shaved on your engine. break in the springs than raise your rev limit to 7,000 rpm and get a 50 shot of spray. if you dont plan on upgrading it internaly than trash it for a 2.2 ecotec they got the same bolt pattern as the l4 2.2 ohv 134:eek7: :rofl:
Who are you calling a noob? 7000 RPM's on a 2.2 OHV with valve springs? Is that a joke? For one, ohv engines dont make power up there especially with no mods and revving that high is asking to break a pushrod. The ecotec does not have the same bolt pattern as the 2.2 OHV, they are flipped. The exhaust is on the firewall side on the ecotec and the exhaust is on the bumper side on the 2.2 ohv.

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