Meltzer's #028 for sale through Silicon Valley Auto Group

I might have a date with it later this week. :naughty: I should know for sure by tomorrow. :sunglasse

I won't bring my camera though - all the good pictures have already been taken. ;)

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http://www.mclarenfreak.com/pages/cars/028%20BOSV%2007.JPG (http://www.mclarenfreak.com/pages/cars/index.htm)

What's the plaque on the left hand side?

It says "Cars by Andretti"

Close, it says 'Special Order Car By Andretti'

I won't bring my camera though - all the good pictures have already been taken. ;)

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Wha? :eek7: Come on man, you gotta take some shots! What's the point of going to see a Mac that you're allowed to take photos of but not taking the camera?

Well, the opportunity to see this car didn't end up materializing for me (or Malka) unfortunately. :(

The final word was that it was sold to New York, which immediately had me thinking that it could have landed in Ralph Lauren's collection. It would look nice alongside all of his red Ferraris afterall. However, it now sounds like it has joined the collection of our other F1 owner from New York - Gary Schaevitz - joining #014 and #045.

It would be great to see some photos of that trio together... hint, hint :smile:

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Bummer...that makes this the second time I missed out on seeing this very same car. :(

Oh well; like Peloton said, pics of the trio would be awesome.

Better to have a missed opportunity, than no opportunity at all, right? :confused:

Ok, maybe not... :uhoh: :disappoin :grinno:

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Better to have a missed opportunity, than no opportunity at all, right? :confused:

Ok, maybe not... :uhoh: :disappoin :grinno:

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yeah, sometimes missed opportunity's are way worse, leaving you kicking yourself in the ass for a long, long time... not that i know from experience or anything... :cwm27:

Now he's got 3 roadcars...what is this man thinking???!

I don't know - maybe he likes the car a lot - I know I do. :iceslolan

Be careful with your criticisms though, as you just never know who may be reading along here. ;)

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I don't know what you mean by criticism? Where have I criticized the purchase? I was just wondering why, as in whether he needs them for three different homes, for a collection, because he's trying to corner the market, likes the colours, needs them to do the mileage he wants to do in a year under Show and Display restrictions, etc., etc. Do you know?

It wasn't intended to be, and it certainly isn't, criticism. Who could begrudge such fine taste?

Edit: I can see how asking "What are you thinking?" is a critical, sarcastic question implying that the person wasn't thinking...but I didn't mean it in that way. I was literally asking what his reasoning behind the purchase of 3 roadcars was. No underlying sarcasm.

However, it now sounds like it has joined the collection of our other F1 owner from New York - Gary Schaevitz - joining #014 and #045.

Why not Lauren? Source?

It would be great to see some photos of that trio together... hint, hint :smile:

Be careful with your criticisms though, as you just never know who may be reading along here. ;)

What are you insinuating? Do you know something? :naughty:

Why not Lauren? Source?

Of course I have a source... :iceslolan

What are you insinuating? Do you know something? :naughty:

I insinuate nothing that you shouldn't already be aware of really. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3311547&postcount=8) ;)

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I don't know what you mean by criticism?

It was really the three question marks and the exclamation point you stuck at the end which gave me that idea. ;)

I equated it to a statement like "...has he gone mad???!" :lol2:

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I insinuate nothing that you shouldn't already be aware of really. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3311547&postcount=8) ;)

Wow, how on earth did I miss that post?! Incase you're reading this "jemada," thank you for taking the time to enlighten us on such matters and welcome aboard.

So that brings the number of actual owners to post on this board up to 4 (with 8 F1s total), right?

That works in my calculator. :iceslolan

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anyone know why 028 is still listed for sale on their website?

Pure marketing? Bad site management? Who knows.

If you are indeed the buyer of 028, than I guess you can ask them to remove it, if it's bothering you.

So.....can you confirm that 028 has indeed joined 014 & 045?

/Bucciali

I can confirm it was still there as of yesterday. I have the pleasure of being able to drive by the dealer on the way to school. As a matter of fact they actually moved it closer to the front window (as opposed to slightly hidden behind the Astons).

As for their website, from all the time's I've checked it and then actually gone to the dealer, it's kept up almost daily (or at least everytime they need to make an adjustment to their inventory status).

Well, as long as the cars not being transported to its new owner....but if it's been sold, yeah, it's not cool to keep it listed as 'for sale'. That's why I prefer the setup 'stocklist' -> 'cars sold'. Also makes for better chance to find F1 pics :-)

Very interesting things are happening on the Silicon Valley Auto Group website...

http://www.siliconvalleyautogroup.com/new_invt.html

Hmmmm.... :naughty:

And here's a shot diablo roadster took of #028 yesterday:

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1746985dsmall.jpg (http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1746985d.jpg)

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:eek2:


Interesting. I was toying with the idea that he might want 1 in every colour, but that doesn't seem the case now

Okay, is this #014, which belongs to the guy who just bought the red one? Am I thinking about this correctly?

Yes. He must have really wanted red becuase the red one has almost triple the mileage the yellow one has. I personally don't think either colour should be on a mclaren

anyone know when the yellow one will arrive? i need to go see that! Also it looks like SVAG remodeled one of their garages, dont remember it with tile.

Yes. He must have really wanted red becuase the red one has almost triple the mileage the yellow one has. I personally don't think either colour should be on a mclaren

But the red one has two things going for it.

It's stunningly beautiful. :thumbsup: (and I don't even like the color red)

It's never been to Brunei. :lol:

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Well, i don't like the red and i think mclaren would have given it a complete rebuild once it got back from Brunei

One more benefit to #028:

"This incredible McLaren F1 is USA certified in 50 states."

Whereas on the listing for #014 it states:

"EPA and DOT certified in 49 states."

I wonder why, and I wonder what the differences could be that makes it so.

Shame that gerd doesn't post here any longer. This is the type of question he'd probably have a good answer for.

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Why is it that when I'm in Northern California I have a better chance of seeing a purple tap dancing gorilla than seeing a McLaren F1, but when I'm 450 miles away it's like a freaking F1 convention in a showroom open to public viewing?! Why must the universe taunt me like this?!!!!! :banghead:

Did you say purple tap dancing gorilla? :bigthumb:

http://a7.cpimg.com/image/EF/94/53620207-0436-00C800FA-.jpg

It's a great gig if you can get it. :lol2:

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Hahaha, awesome picture. Now that made me laugh! :lol:

The yellow one ...

Warranty No warranty

Errrr ... great! Even if I was in the Big Mac league I'd want some form of assurance!

The yellow one ...

Warranty No warranty

Errrr ... great! Even if I was in the Big Mac league I'd want some form of assurance!Unless SVAG is an authorized McLaren service center I don't see why they'd offer any sort of warranty. You're talking about a million dollar car which has seen at least one owner. Since F1s are out of production the vehicle cannot be replaced (and can only be properly maintained by a small group of qualified individuals) why would some non-McLaren affiliated dealer offer a warranty?

The first thing I'd do when I got the car is take it back to a McLaren service center for a thorough inspection =)

#014 has been through New Jersey recently - it's probably got a clean bill of health and is ready to go. :thumbsup:

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The first thing I'd do when I got the car is take it back to a McLaren service center for a thorough inspection =)

The first thing I'd do if I considered this car is fly a McLaren technician in for a thorough inspection

What do you need a warranty for? Don't you guys swear by engineering on the F1? I'm fairly sure we'd know if one of the McLarens was a lemon. :p

You have to remember, if you have the money to afford a McLaren, you can afford to take it to McLaren or some other extremely acclaimed mechanic to do your work. Its not like someone who owns an F1 is taking their McLaren over to Jiffy Lube for a fluids change.

You'd call McLaren to ask to fly in a tech and they'd prolly just say "#14? Why do you need someone? It was just serviced on :some date: and its running perfect."

Well I wouldn't expect a warranty on any car that is 11 years old - million dollar price tag, or not - 2500 miles on the odometer, or not.

As I recall the original McLaren warranty was for three years from the date of production, and in that three years they would also provide, for free, any updates they had engineered into the later production cars.

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Going back a bit...

anyone know why 028 is still listed for sale on their website?

I read this post as a subtle way of saying that you didn't buy it. My apologies for implicating you, but a credible source had reported that you had purchased a third F1, and the timing was rather coincidental.

In any event, I learned this weekend that #028 has stayed in California, but came to SoCal - specifically "Newport Beach". Further details hopefully forthcoming.

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#014 is finally at SVAG:

http://www.siliconvalleyautogroup.com/marques_stock/mclaren_1900/photo_1.jpg (http://www.siliconvalleyautogroup.com/marques_stock/mclaren_1900/photo_page.html)
Click me...

Interestingly, the car still wears an identification badge from when it was in the collection of the Brunei Royal Family:

http://www.siliconvalleyautogroup.com/marques_stock/mclaren_1900/photo_7.jpg

The signature shown in one of the photos is supposedly Michael Schumacher's - not sure on the when/where/why/how that would have happened.

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The signature shown in one of the photos is supposedly Michael Schumacher's - not sure on the when/where/why/how that would have happened.

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Looks like Schumacher's scrawl.

On that little card photographed on #014, what do you suppose "Magic No." means?

droool........

Looks like Schumacher's scrawl.

funny you should say that i was just thinking how it looks nothing like his...
in his autograph you can clearly make out an m and an s.

Nice to see the car in good condition after the awful state it got into sitting in the Sultan's warehouse.

upon further review, i would like to retract my previous statement and concede that it does in fact appear to be schumi's john hancock...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/FortuneF1/msauto2sue5x7.jpg

funny you should say that i was just thinking how it looks nothing like his...
in his autograph you can clearly make out an m and an s.

My bad :redface: It's the other Schumacher's signature - which does indeed make a lot more sense, especially given the date.

http://www.schumacher-ralf.com/photo/ralf-342.jpg

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after i looked up michael's it does in fact appear to resemble his signature, not ralph's... curious... why the heck would he sign a mclaren...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/FortuneF1/crap/msauto2sue5x7.jpg

and for a side by side comparo...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/FortuneF1/crap/msauto2sue5x7.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/FortuneF1/crap/schumi.jpg
appears to be the same/similar...

Actually, it appears they both have the same signature. :screwy:

It just makes infintely more sense that it would be Ralph's in 1996 since that was the year he won the Japan GT Championship in a McLaren F1 GTR.

Why would Michael Schumacher sign a McLaren F1? :confused:

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Actually, it appears they both have the same signature. :screwy:

It just makes infintely more sense that it would be Ralph's in 1996 since that was the year he won the Japan GT Championship in a McLaren F1 GTR.

Why would Michael Schumacher sign a McLaren F1? :confused:

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i absolutely agree, however the side by side comparo i just posted makes it seem more likely to be michael's signature, whereas ralph would seem like the logical choice to be the one to have signed the car...
i would have to say that its definately michael's autograph though

i absolutely agree, however the side by side comparo i just posted makes it seem more likely to be michael's signature, whereas ralph would seem like the logical choice to be the one to have signed the car...
i would have to say that its definately michael's autograph though

Great - however, did you need to burn through three posts to get to that point? :p

We do have an "Edit" button here. ;)

After looking at more examples, you may be right. Still doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Take my word for it, it is Michael's signature and he signed it as a favor to the owner. Nothing more, nothing less

Great - however, did you need to burn through three posts to get to that point? :p

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touche'
but maybe i like looking at my sig and avatar... :cwm27:
there, i used the edit button...

Mr. S, i was just wondering if there was any reason that you decided to sell the car through SVAG instead of somewhere local or privatley?



I'd also like to thank you for taking the time to post here. We've had numerous owners on here but not many seem to have stayed. It seems that you've been lurking for a while, so hopefully you'll continue to look here and post for us. Its really cool when an owner comes on here and talks to us. Its great to see the cars (always great, no matter how many you've seen. I've seen 11) but is cool to know that you've spoken to someone who actually owns the legend.

I think i speak for everyone when i say, thanks.



Chris

Meanwhile, #014 has made it to Ebay which is somewhat odd because I heard it was already sold. Guess not...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4597460794

Possibly they're just trying to milk some publicity out of the car, which I can't say I blame them for, but then again if it's truly sold that doesn't sound like a good business plan to sell it again.

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I thought first that M.Schumacher was the first owner. I know he owned a yello EB110SS with blue leather seats i saw that car in Monaco when the F1 Gran Prix was there in 1996. But i guess not when
i read that Schummi did sign the F1 for the owner.

Meanwhile, #014 has made it to Ebay which is somewhat odd because I heard it was already sold. Guess not...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4597460794

Possibly they're just trying to milk some publicity out of the car, which I can't say I blame them for, but then again if it's truly sold that doesn't sound like a good business plan to sell it again.

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Would have been nice if they could at least get the manufacturer right - they've listed it as a 1994 Ferrari... :uhoh:

Because more people look at "Ferrari" than "Other Makes" and you can bet more people can afford a McLaren who look at the Ferrari category than the Other Makes category. Pretty smart imo. They used to list a Saleen S7 in with the Ferrari's too.

Because more people look at "Ferrari" than "Other Makes" and you can bet more people can afford a McLaren who look at the Ferrari category than the Other Makes category. Pretty smart imo. They used to list a Saleen S7 in with the Ferrari's too.
Yeh I guessed that it was intentional on their part but I still think it's silly.