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240SXSlideStar
10-19-2005, 02:41 AM
Off topic, but whatever, I think it looks alright, the front is a little square, but I see the previous Skylines in the lines. I looove the rear lights! If it schools Porsches and Corvettes and Enzos around the track then I'll totally live with the looks!

www.gtrproto.com

Oh and staying up until 3am when you gotta get up at 6am just to see the end of the counter = obsession.....or love, I dunno yet.

wotandsdwys
10-19-2005, 03:17 AM
OMG, I like it a lot.

can't wait to see some specs.

I just hope it will again be the new benchmark for Japanese sports cars.

AWDSR20
10-19-2005, 03:24 AM
wow, can't wait till i graduate... i wana buy that thing!!!!

HoosierDrifter
10-19-2005, 04:14 AM
the front grill looks like one of the new Audi's and the rear looks like the rear of a chevy cobalt..

B+

xcusememisswyn
10-19-2005, 07:10 AM
looks nice but they will mellow down the styling a bit, they always do

240SXSlideStar
10-19-2005, 12:26 PM
And the Colbalt took it's looks from the Skyline, not the other way around.

S13wanabe
10-19-2005, 01:23 PM
I think it looks really good. They shouldn't change a thing on the body. The power plant is going to be the shitty part. Not that it won't have a lot of power, but it's not going to be an RB26DETT or an inline six for that matter. One of the things that made this car so cool to me was the inline six and the sound of that motor. Oh well, it should be fast anyway. As far as beating corvettes and enzos I wouldn't hold your breath. That new Z06 is very impressive, 505hp, 11.7 in the 1/4 mile, and it's just over 3000 lbs. It is setting some very impressive numbers and giving every super car out there a run for its money. All this for $65,000. Not too bad. I love them, now where did I put that extra $65,000 I had.

R.W.240
10-19-2005, 01:34 PM
http://www.nicoclub.com/articles/images/image_5.jpg

If you think the new GTR doesnt look fucking amazing then your stupid

If you think a Cosworth tuned VQ isnt better than an RB then your stupid


As for beating the Z06... thats a mighty big stretch since they dyno 455whp with 110miles on the motor.

if nothing else it looks 11ty billion times better than the Z06

S13wanabe
10-19-2005, 01:53 PM
Boy, you sound really intelligent putting people down for their opinions. And yes, I do like the rb26dett better. I think it has plenty of proven potential, and the sound of an I-6. I don't discredit the Cosworth VQ, but I'm partial to the RB.

publicenemy137
10-19-2005, 04:20 PM
well u can't judge a motor until it is actually out and announced.

Nissan is aiming for it to be faster than the porsche 911 Carrera Turbo, so it should give the z06 a run for it's money.

I personally like the new design, the rear end kicks ass. If anyone says it looks like a cobalt rear end, that's really dumb b/c everyone knows all nice sports cars have circle taillights, chevy was just stupid to put that on a cheap cobalt.

orestes
10-19-2005, 04:47 PM
im not that wild about the front how theres those two extended black towers that go down to the ground wtf is up with that. but overall i think it looks good. personally i like some of the photoshopped r34's that ive seen a lot better though.

Chuki_breath
10-19-2005, 07:39 PM
to all the haters.....told ya so.

have you ever worked on an rb?? Or are you going by what super street says??? Of course it has proven potential.......its old. The vq does too, ahem gt500. I cant wait to f'ing see one.

Pavlo
10-19-2005, 09:38 PM
Its alright, previous models still have my heart, lol (r32 v-spec II).

TRUBO_89
10-19-2005, 09:49 PM
that thing looks ok right now but will defenitly undergo changes before the release. dont like the front end right now though

91300zxtt
10-20-2005, 05:58 AM
Its fugly, once again another great car ruined by "modern" styling.

240SXSlideStar
10-20-2005, 11:59 AM
Its fugly, once again another great car ruined by "modern" styling.

Obviously it was going to look way different, so there's no point bitching about it looking different, sure the older ones look nicer cause they're not all futuristic and shit, but this car actually looks pretty good, aside from the older models.

91300zxtt
10-20-2005, 03:51 PM
Obviously it was going to look way different, so there's no point bitching about it looking different, sure the older ones look nicer cause they're not all futuristic and shit, but this car actually looks pretty good, aside from the older models.

Different is good, but not that. It should have kept most of the original lines and improved. Its not just this car thats getting screwed.

monooxide
10-20-2005, 03:54 PM
Maybe you are so accustomed to the old styling that this new era is fugly to your "NO YOULL RUIN IT IF IT DOESNT HAVE THAT AWESOME SQUARE WIDE BODY LOOK" ass.....build yourself a time machine. I personally think the car is bad ass I would like to see what it would look like with the CF under the headlights being full metal(silver) rather than the CF. If a car looks even 60% as good as you wanted it to and it out handles anything and has a good Power to Weight ratio stock. I think that makes up for a cars looks even though I like eveything thus far about the car.

orestes
10-20-2005, 05:46 PM
its too bad it will most likely get its ass handed to it by the Z06. someone should have sabatoged that whole design process so the skyline could win. lol stupid chevy.

240SXSlideStar
10-20-2005, 06:10 PM
its too bad it will most likely get its ass handed to it by the Z06. someone should have sabatoged that whole design process so the skyline could win. lol stupid chevy.

Why would you ay the Z06 is better? The whole point of the Skyline is that it kills everything. :-P It's always been that way.

orestes
10-20-2005, 06:13 PM
ummm yeah. i wish. but it will lose.

publicenemy137
10-20-2005, 10:16 PM
again, this is only a prototype, not the final production. I think they will tone it down a bit, and maybe take out the Carbon Fiber. CF = expensive!

R.W.240
10-20-2005, 10:30 PM
ummm yeah. i wish. but it will lose.


Indeed


I think they will tone it down a bit, and maybe take out the Carbon Fiber. CF = expensive

Apparently alot of the panels will be carbon fiber.

S13wanabe
10-20-2005, 10:43 PM
I don't understand why people stick up for the VQ so much. I have nothing against the VQ, but will this car really be a Skyline without an I-6. It has been an I-6 since from the beginning I believe. It just doesn't seem right to change it. I don't even think it should stay RB, but I do think Nissan should develope a new I-6. Please, there has to be someone that agrees with me.

PS: the Z06 owns. I think it looks rad too. And it will be a lot cheaper than the Skyline. Best bang for the buck.

R.W.240
10-20-2005, 10:50 PM
I don't understand why people stick up for the VQ so much. I have nothing against the VQ, but will this car really be a Skyline without an I-6. It has been an I-6 since from the beginning I believe. It just doesn't seem right to change it. I don't even think it should stay RB, but I do think Nissan should develope a new I-6. Please, there has to be someone that agrees with me.

Its the difference between being Nostalgic and Fast...


Technically you could make the Skyline faster by using a big displacement V-8 like the Z06's. So I geuss be happy they didnt stray further from the skylines "heritage".

AWDSR20
10-20-2005, 11:17 PM
I don't understand why people stick up for the VQ so much. I have nothing against the VQ, but will this car really be a Skyline without an I-6. It has been an I-6 since from the beginning I believe. It just doesn't seem right to change it. I don't even think it should stay RB, but I do think Nissan should develope a new I-6. Please, there has to be someone that agrees with me.

PS: the Z06 owns. I think it looks rad too. And it will be a lot cheaper than the Skyline. Best bang for the buck.


dude, cars are made by companies to generate profit. " heritage, its always been like that" are not a factor in making a car. Nissan, like all smart companies are trying to make a generate mass cars that share many common denominators such as the VQ motor to reduce the production and engineering cost. So yeah, say bye bye to the I6. why would you make a whole new motor for just one car? The SKYLINE, the car that might "at best" be like 2% off all the car sales Nissan makes. No way, VQ is already made, use it.

Ps, I worked on my friends 350Z and man, that thing is hard to work on, and all we did is an air intake !! lol

Mojo_stevo
10-20-2005, 11:21 PM
I like that GT-R very much. Not bad at all. Much more aggressive and sportier than the G/R35.

91300zxtt
10-20-2005, 11:27 PM
dude, cars are made by companies to generate profit. " heritage, its always been like that" are not a factor in making a car. Nissan, like all smart companies are trying to make a generate mass cars that share many common denominators such as the VQ motor to reduce the production and engineering cost. So yeah, say bye bye to the I6. why would you make a whole new motor for just one car? The SKYLINE, the car that might "at best" be like 2% off all the car sales Nissan makes. No way, VQ is already made, use it.

Ps, I worked on my friends 350Z and man, that thing is hard to work on, and all we did is an air intake !! lol

Did the RB go in anything else?

Monoxide, I would much rather have the car looking boxier, yet sleeker. It looks like a new Z with a few changes. Not much thought went into this car.

S13wanabe
10-20-2005, 11:55 PM
No, the RB was exclusive to the Skyline. Nut as far as companies making developing a new motor for one car, The new Z06 has a new motor that no other car shares. It is also hand built. The Dodge Viper is the same way (the SRT-10 pickup is a joke). The Skyline used to be that way. Most super cars are that way. I even think the motor in the NSX is that way (although don't quote me on that). I don't know, but I can't imagine Chevy makes much money on the Z06, and I know Honda/Acura didn't make money on the NSX. Sometimes it's all about the reputation building a competitive supr car can get you rather than the profit it will generate from sales.

orestes
10-21-2005, 12:05 AM
no, the RB wasnt exclusive to the skyline....

Hit_N_Run-player
10-21-2005, 12:14 AM
this is off topic, but are we ever gonna see another debute of the supra's?

orestes
10-21-2005, 12:19 AM
ya probably undre lexus and from what i read its gonna be a v10

S13wanabe
10-21-2005, 01:17 AM
What else did the RB come in?

publicenemy137
10-21-2005, 01:18 AM
well, cosworth helped make the new VQ for the skyline, so I think Nissan knows what they are doing. Top Secret also claims that the VQ fully built has more potential than an RB, and they make hp numbers in the quadtruple digits. With Cosworth's magic, maybe we will forget what the RB even is.

orestes
10-21-2005, 04:26 AM
What else did the RB come in?

cefiro's and commodore's at least there may be others.

nismo_power
10-21-2005, 05:23 AM
well, cosworth helped make the new VQ for the skyline, so I think Nissan knows what they are doing. Top Secret also claims that the VQ fully built has more potential than an RB, and they make hp numbers in the quadtruple digits. With Cosworth's magic, maybe we will forget what the RB even is.


so did the RB. the RB was capable of over 600 horse on a stock block, and well over 1300 built. the iron block was strong as all hell...yet it was also very heavy.

and to you guys saying "ITS NOT A SKYLINE WITHOUT AN RB!@!@! OH NOES@!@!#@@"

skylines didnt always use the RB, nor i-6's. hell...some where 4 cyl.

S13wanabe
10-21-2005, 06:12 AM
The first GTR was a 1998cc, dual overhead cam I-6 that made 160hp. This was in 1969, one year after the brand name of the car was changed from Prince to Nissan. So the history of the GTR starts with an I-6. Nice try though. Like I said, nothing against the VQ, just wish they would stay with an I-6 motor. Oh well.

R.W.240
10-21-2005, 03:37 PM
What else did the RB come in?

Cefiro, 300ZX, Stagea, and more...


So the history of the GTR starts with an I-6

The history of the Corvette starts with an I-6. Your Point is?

The VQ is a better engine all around. its lighter, its a V so the polar moment of the vehicle will be less, the VQ30 is extremely smooth, and its been on the best engineered motors list since it came out.

orestes
10-21-2005, 03:40 PM
yeah i feel you guys on the inline 6 thing, i think they are always sweet motors, but im trusting in nissan on this one, they have been working with this engine a lot obvouisly, and i hope it pays off.

S13wanabe
10-21-2005, 06:46 PM
The Corvette was an I-6 for a couple years but quickly changed to a V8 I can't remember the year of the first V8 Vette but it was mid 50's. The first couple Skylines were I-4's, but the first GTR was an I-6. I like I-6 motors better than V6's.

driftking777
10-21-2005, 07:08 PM
i believe the first v8 in a corvette was 57' but this is completely irrelevant, as the v6 the corvette was debut with in 53' was grossly underpowered, and the corvette name was almost erased...then in 57 the came out with the v8 and became the all mighty roadster it was...any who....enough of a history lesson...I like the VQ...

monooxide
10-22-2005, 01:08 AM
Why would all the Nissan JGTC cars go to a VQ engine over the RB man...It couldnt be that the almighty I-6 has lost to the roxoring V6. I dont see why the engine being a V or I configuration is making a huge difference in how much sleep you get. Besides you saying man the I6 was the symbol of Japanese MUCSLEsdajklgahkj!!!1!

BTW...check out the toyota forum there are some Spy shots of the New Supra on the Nurburing.

-The Stig-
10-22-2005, 01:27 AM
i believe the first v8 in a corvette was 57' but this is completely irrelevant, as the v6 the corvette was debut with in 53' was grossly underpowered, and the corvette name was almost erased...then in 57 the came out with the v8 and became the all mighty roadster it was...any who....enough of a history lesson...I like the VQ...


:lol: If you're going to give a history lesson, let it be accurate. The Corvette had a Inline 6, not a V6.

:p

R.W.240
10-22-2005, 02:09 AM
:lol: If you're going to give a history lesson, let it be accurate. The Corvette had a Inline 6, not a V6.

:p


I was Accurate :crying:

-The Stig-
10-22-2005, 02:50 AM
I was Accurate :crying:



i know... i know... :p

nismo_power
10-22-2005, 02:56 AM
Why would all the Nissan JGTC cars go to a VQ engine over the RB man...It couldnt be that the almighty I-6 has lost to the roxoring V6. I dont see why the engine being a V or I configuration is making a huge difference in how much sleep you get. Besides you saying man the I6 was the symbol of Japanese MUCSLEsdajklgahkj!!!1!

BTW...check out the toyota forum there are some Spy shots of the New Supra on the Nurburing.


the xanavi r34 used the RB until 2003, when it switched to the vq. the vq has been a popular motor for years.

xcusememisswyn
10-22-2005, 12:50 PM
i believe the first v8 in a corvette was 57' but this is completely irrelevant, as the v6 the corvette was debut with in 53' was grossly underpowered, and the corvette name was almost erased...then in 57 the came out with the v8 and became the all mighty roadster it was...any who....enough of a history lesson...I like the VQ...


The first two years it was a single barrel carb I6, 3.9 L with a ass whooping 150HP, then in 55 they offered a four barrel carbed V8 as an option, 4.3 L and an extra fourty HP. In 56 they offered only V8's with different carbs, HP from 210-240... and the true legend begins from there.

AWDSR20
10-22-2005, 02:31 PM
No, the RB was exclusive to the Skyline. Nut as far as companies making developing a new motor for one car, The new Z06 has a new motor that no other car shares. It is also hand built. The Dodge Viper is the same way (the SRT-10 pickup is a joke). The Skyline used to be that way. Most super cars are that way. I even think the motor in the NSX is that way (although don't quote me on that). I don't know, but I can't imagine Chevy makes much money on the Z06, and I know Honda/Acura didn't make money on the NSX. Sometimes it's all about the reputation building a competitive supr car can get you rather than the profit it will generate from sales.

Z06 sells dude, GM is making $$$ off the Z06, so yeah that exclusive motor is not a bad idea. (GM dough is doing bad dough.. chapter11)

what i know for sure is if nissan can get away with the VQ in the new SKYLINE, they will build it with the VQ power plant.

R.W.240
10-22-2005, 04:44 PM
Alls I knows is thats the Xanavi 350Z sounds awsome... Its like the quietest car in the feild until it comes into the corner and then every downshift its got mean Antilag backfires.

nismo_power
10-23-2005, 12:58 PM
No, the RB was exclusive to the Skyline.


no it wasnt, it was in numerous other cars. the only one i can think of off the top of my head is the the holden commadore, using the RB30DE.

Chuki_breath
10-23-2005, 01:50 PM
i like the stagea myself. I wish they sold that mofo over here. Sweet ass wag. rb26style.

orestes
10-23-2005, 03:12 PM
yes!!!! god damn those are sweet. any of those bigger nissans that we didnt get over here i like.

232FIed
10-23-2005, 05:43 PM
i agree ^. damn modern profiling. as for beating a z06 its possible judging on what kind of numbers the powerplant puts out after production and the weight of it overall, skylines don't have dissappointing historys, the rb in my opinion is better then the vq, the sound of the i6 is something beyond compair, you hear that bov it sends shivers,

the new style is nice, love the rear lighst and wing, has a nice body flare and the lines are smoothe but that front is aggrevating, what happened to the box-ier aggresive skyline front, no vertical tower lights no black accents just pure gtr in your face. i'll say its nice for now and what to see the finished product

S13wanabe
10-23-2005, 07:12 PM
Man Nismo-power, a little late telling me of other cars that came with the RB. I'm sorry everyone, I wasn't aware so many cars came with RB motors. Next time I'll do some research before I guess. Anyway, I like the way the VQ sounds, but it got old since I see at least 10-30 350Z's and G35's everyday, and see at least 2 a day that are fixed up from basic bolt-ons to turbos to superchargers. I've heard them all on a very regular basis so they have kinda lost their spark for me. Since I don't see a Skyline hardly ever, the distingtive sound of the exhaust and that I-6 just turns me on. I love the sound of Supras aswell so I would like to see them keep the I-6 for the future (even though the talk is that they are not). Anyway I wish Nissan good luck, and pray that maybe they will go conservative on the power, and leave the potential like the RB had. The great thing about the Skyline of the 90's was that with basic bolt-ons, you could make it way powerful even though it only had about 300hp stock, 500 wasn't hard to get at all. Hopefully it won't have a supercar interior with leather everywhere and be super luxurious. If they build the motor toned down (but with easy power potential) and not a luxury supercar inside, then maybe we will be able to afford the famous Skyline someday with insurance that won't eat us alive.

slideways...
10-24-2005, 12:43 AM
RW, when did the 300zx have an RB? i dont remember that one

R.W.240
10-24-2005, 01:58 AM
Z31, Im pretty sure they never called it a 200ZX... actually it may have been called the 200ZR. Anyway, it had the RB20DET in it, it wasnt too popular though since the RB20 is a pile to begin with and being in the Z31s heavy shell didnt make things better.

-The Stig-
10-24-2005, 02:02 AM
Z31, Im pretty sure they never called it a 200ZX... actually it may have been called the 200ZR. Anyway, it had the RB20DET in it, it wasnt too popular though since the RB20 is a pile to begin with and being in the Z31s heavy shell didnt make things better.


Yeah, that and I believe the 200ZR made only 190hp... maybe a bit less.

Stupid "redtop RB20" bleh!

MechManZero
10-24-2005, 04:22 AM
Just saw the Skyline. It looks great except the front is too boxy for me, I like sloped fronts. But hey thats how the other Skylines look. Isn;t It going to have the sr20det instead of an rb series?

240SXSlideStar
10-24-2005, 01:33 PM
Just saw the Skyline. It looks great except the front is too boxy for me, I like sloped fronts. But hey thats how the other Skylines look. Isn;t It going to have the sr20det instead of an rb series?

Riiight, they are going to go from a 310hp straight six to a 250hp 4 cylinder..............................I'm sure the rich automatic driving bastards over ehre are ganna love that one.

xcusememisswyn
10-24-2005, 02:39 PM
Just saw the Skyline. It looks great except the front is too boxy for me, I like sloped fronts. But hey thats how the other Skylines look. Isn;t It going to have the sr20det instead of an rb series?


if u even skim thru the rest of the thread youll learn what its supposedly going to have!

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