Enzo vs Mclaren F1
69er
10-18-2005, 09:03 AM
Has anyone seen this video or have a copy of it?
Peloton25
10-18-2005, 12:11 PM
Are you talking about the "Martin Brundle's Supercars" DVD?
That's the only video where I can recall the two cars being compared head-to-head.
If so, it's an enjoyable vid - definitely worth the purchase. :thumbsup:
>8^)
ER
Edit: Here's a shot of the cover, clickable to a website where you can purchase the DVD.
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/36/43/27111478-3ea6-00C1011A-.jpg (http://www.imagineracingproductions.com)
That's the only video where I can recall the two cars being compared head-to-head.
If so, it's an enjoyable vid - definitely worth the purchase. :thumbsup:
>8^)
ER
Edit: Here's a shot of the cover, clickable to a website where you can purchase the DVD.
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/36/43/27111478-3ea6-00C1011A-.jpg (http://www.imagineracingproductions.com)
69er
10-19-2005, 03:05 AM
It's actually a drag race that i was after court on tape, it was home footage.
F1 monster
10-19-2005, 03:32 AM
I am guessing here, but the only thing that makes sense is court = caught? If so, I have never seen or even heard of such a tape.
Peloton25
10-19-2005, 03:55 AM
He must be talking about this little event:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1/4c945748.jpg
I've never seen the video, but I surely would like to. According to the owner of the two cars - and I may be paraphrasing slightly - the F1 smoked the Enzo. :naughty:
>8^)
ER
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1/4c945748.jpg
I've never seen the video, but I surely would like to. According to the owner of the two cars - and I may be paraphrasing slightly - the F1 smoked the Enzo. :naughty:
>8^)
ER
F1 monster
10-19-2005, 08:25 PM
If that's at the track event we know about...neither of the cars were driven anywhere near their limits.
mini magic
10-19-2005, 09:18 PM
Track event? Thats DK's car
F1 monster
10-19-2005, 10:39 PM
Thought it was CM's.
69er
10-20-2005, 07:48 AM
Yeah thats the footage i was talking about. Is there any video footage of this drag race? :)
Peloton25
10-20-2005, 10:26 AM
Yes, there is obviously footage as that horrible image can be nothing more than a screenshot taken from such a video. Again though - unfortunately I don't believe this video has made it into the public domain. If it has, I've never seen it. and I would find that rather surprising.
>8^)
ER
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ER
mini magic
10-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Thought it was CM's.
Nope
Nope
FortuneF1
10-21-2005, 01:04 AM
of course the f1 is smoking the enzo...stupid enzo...
all hail the supreme ruler of all cars...bow to the f1!
all hail the supreme ruler of all cars...bow to the f1!
McLaren F1 Guy
10-21-2005, 10:38 AM
Thought it was CM's. DK actually e-mailed that photo to me. ;)
FortuneF1
10-21-2005, 01:47 PM
isn't that the f1 thats for sale, as mentioned in another thread?
Peloton25
10-21-2005, 02:10 PM
No - the F1 that's for sale is #028. The car in that photo above with the Enzo is Dan Kennedy's #038.
>8^)
ER
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ER
FortuneF1
10-21-2005, 05:37 PM
No - the F1 that's for sale is #028. The car in that photo above with the Enzo is Dan Kennedy's #038.
>8^)
ER
ahhhhh i see... i did not know that there were 2 f1's in that hue of red... its so rare to see a bright red f1... well photos anyway, ive never had the privelidge to see an f1 in person :crying:
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ER
ahhhhh i see... i did not know that there were 2 f1's in that hue of red... its so rare to see a bright red f1... well photos anyway, ive never had the privelidge to see an f1 in person :crying:
Peloton25
10-21-2005, 05:49 PM
#038 is actually painted "Kandy Orange"
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/BD/27/8953021-4557-028001E0-.jpg
Chassis #004 was listed as being painted the same "Grand Prix Red" as #028, but I have no confirmed photos of it.
Chassis #021 is listed as "Blood Red Solid", which would be similar in color to Nick Mason's GTR #10R, but again no confirmed photos of that one either.
>8^)
ER
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/BD/27/8953021-4557-028001E0-.jpg
Chassis #004 was listed as being painted the same "Grand Prix Red" as #028, but I have no confirmed photos of it.
Chassis #021 is listed as "Blood Red Solid", which would be similar in color to Nick Mason's GTR #10R, but again no confirmed photos of that one either.
>8^)
ER
diabloroadster2
10-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Cliff said that he liked the Enzo more than the F1 due to the newer brake technology. which makes me wonder if anyeone has sprung the cash for McLaren to make/install carbon brakes for an F1
Noddy
10-21-2005, 10:39 PM
Cliff said that he liked the Enzo more than the F1 due to the newer brake technology. which makes me wonder if anyeone has sprung the cash for McLaren to make/install carbon brakes for an F1
Hope I'm not speaking out of turn being relatively new here but Mclaren tested carbon brakes for the F1 and were never happy with them in cool damp conditions.
Hope I'm not speaking out of turn being relatively new here but Mclaren tested carbon brakes for the F1 and were never happy with them in cool damp conditions.
Peloton25
10-22-2005, 12:04 AM
No such thing as speaking out of turn in here - if something is old news, most of us will find a way to tell you without making you feel dumb about it. (I hope...)
We are aware of Gordon's desire to include carbon brakes on the F1 and the fact that they were tested and found to be inadequate, however that was based on the technology available in ~1991-1993.
I think the interest in Archangel's question is whether someone has paid to adapt today's carbon-ceramic brake technology to their F1. The F1's traditional steel brakes are one of the few areas of the car that regularly receive complaints about not living up to the rest of the package or not meeting the capabilities of the current crop of supercars.
I'm certain if McLaren could have found a way to make them work properly, Gordon would have ensured they were on the car. Afterall, the Brabham BT46 he developed in the late 1970s was the first Formula One car to incorporate them. Unlike a paddle shifted transmission for instance, a proper set of today's carbon brakes offer nothing but benefits in function, longevity and unsprung weight savings.
>8^)
ER
We are aware of Gordon's desire to include carbon brakes on the F1 and the fact that they were tested and found to be inadequate, however that was based on the technology available in ~1991-1993.
I think the interest in Archangel's question is whether someone has paid to adapt today's carbon-ceramic brake technology to their F1. The F1's traditional steel brakes are one of the few areas of the car that regularly receive complaints about not living up to the rest of the package or not meeting the capabilities of the current crop of supercars.
I'm certain if McLaren could have found a way to make them work properly, Gordon would have ensured they were on the car. Afterall, the Brabham BT46 he developed in the late 1970s was the first Formula One car to incorporate them. Unlike a paddle shifted transmission for instance, a proper set of today's carbon brakes offer nothing but benefits in function, longevity and unsprung weight savings.
>8^)
ER
murraydeschot
10-22-2005, 08:17 AM
We are aware of Gordon's desire to include carbon brakes on the F1 and the fact that they were tested and found to be inadequate, however that was based on the technology available in ~1991-1993.
I think the interest in Archangel's question is whether someone has paid to adapt today's carbon-ceramic brake technology to their F1. The F1's traditional steel brakes are one of the few areas of the car that regularly receive complaints about not living up to the rest of the package or not meeting the capabilities of the current crop of supercars.
I'm certain if McLaren could have found a way to make them work properly, Gordon would have ensured they were on the car. Afterall, the Brabham BT46 he developed in the late 1970s was the first Formula One car to incorporate them. Unlike a paddle shifted transmission for instance, a proper set of today's carbon brakes offer nothing but benefits in function, longevity and unsprung weight savings.
>8^)
ER
Given the Carbon brakes of the SLR, I'm sure McLaren could develop them for any interested owner ... but as for the price ....
I think the interest in Archangel's question is whether someone has paid to adapt today's carbon-ceramic brake technology to their F1. The F1's traditional steel brakes are one of the few areas of the car that regularly receive complaints about not living up to the rest of the package or not meeting the capabilities of the current crop of supercars.
I'm certain if McLaren could have found a way to make them work properly, Gordon would have ensured they were on the car. Afterall, the Brabham BT46 he developed in the late 1970s was the first Formula One car to incorporate them. Unlike a paddle shifted transmission for instance, a proper set of today's carbon brakes offer nothing but benefits in function, longevity and unsprung weight savings.
>8^)
ER
Given the Carbon brakes of the SLR, I'm sure McLaren could develop them for any interested owner ... but as for the price ....
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