BMW M3 (E46) vs. NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R Vspec II (R33)

In an overall test of might...both straight line and curvaceous...which car would win?

BMW M3 (E46) or NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R Vspec II (R33)???

Reason being both are priced probably around $50K-$55K and both are badass cars...

My vote...R33 GT-R

:bandit:

I think it would be a pretty close race.

well i think the 2002 M3's will beat the R33. cuase the R33 was considered to be the mistake of hte 3 gen's. it had the longest wheel base, and it was also the tallest one. from what i've learned from the skyline forums here, its not realy much improved over the R32.

the new M3 will beat the old R33 in every way, looks, power, handling. But if it was an R34 it would be a whole different story

Pennzoil I am not so sure. Just over the weekend there was an Autosalon here in Auckland New Zealand. A brand new M3 was slapped up on the dyno. It had a custom tuned exhaust and not sure what else.
If memory serves me right the M3 is rated at 350hp from the factory. On the dyno it threw 260hp at the wheels, which is about right.

An R32 and R33 GTR with factory boost exhausts and pods throws the same figures. The GTR would out accelerate it though cornering would be pretty close. Too close to call

Style the BMW is a BMW, and the GTR race bred.

I would take the GTR over the beemer.

Originally posted by Razorgtst
Pennzoil I am not so sure. Just over the weekend there was an Autosalon here in Auckland New Zealand. A brand new M3 was slapped up on the dyno. It had a custom tuned exhaust and not sure what else.
If memory serves me right the M3 is rated at 350hp from the factory. On the dyno it threw 260hp at the wheels, which is about right.

An R32 and R33 GTR with factory boost exhausts and pods throws the same figures. The GTR would out accelerate it though cornering would be pretty close. Too close to call

Style the BMW is a BMW, and the GTR race bred.

I would take the GTR over the beemer.

The /// /V\ 3 has 343 from the factory , but my friend had a bone stock one with 268 or 269 at the wheels... Also you know , in japan pepole boycotted R33s at first , they are the biggest skylines till now , when the R33 was realesed prices of R32 went... UP !
I don't know about the race... i guess it'll be up to the drivers...

Originally posted by Tom_S8


The /// /V\ 3 has 343 from the factory , but my friend had a bone stock one with 268 or 269 at the wheels... Also you know , in japan pepole boycotted R33s at first , they are the biggest skylines till now , when the R33 was realesed prices of R32 went... UP !
I don't know about the race... i guess it'll be up to the drivers...



Well, I personaly like the R33s, I guess that just shows the Greenpeace kinda guy I am :D :D

Any how, the race would be interesting... I'd throw my money on the R33 just for the sake of betting but as for educated guesses I have none :(

the M3 is a very well balanced car with a good, torquey engine. It shud just about have the R33, unless of course it rains:)

As for the R34, that 4 wheel drive system and the horsepower (its way over the 276hp Nissan claim), it would leave the M3 for dead

id like to see the M3 CSL race an R34, could be a whole different story:eek:

Bah. Apples and Oranges people...

well to be honest with you the R33 is a faster straight line racer then a R34. the R33 is still rated at over 300hp . and the R34 has slightly more hp. but being that the R34 weights almost 200lbs more that extra 15 hp is not goin to cut it. the fastest i've seen a stock R34 run on best motoring is 12.9 on the 1/4 and the fastest i've seen a stock R33 run was 12.7 on the 1/4. however the R34 is superior in ever other way. and of course its my favorite skyline out of all the GT-R's.

of course the real test would be to race them on the old nurburgring nordschliefe. i think the M3 does it in just under 9 minutes, about 8 mins 50 secs. anyone know wot the skyline does it in?

the R33 did it in 7:59 seconds. sooooooooo that means the R33 GT-R spanked the shit out of the new M3 oooops

looks like i was wrong to say the M3 was better then:eek:

In reality it is difficult to compare the two. The BMW is based on a luxury car platform, while the Skyline was based on a race car platform from the get go.

The skyline is by no means the best in the world. Anyone who suggests that is either very ignorant or just not all there. One would only have to look at the Porsche GT2, Maclearn F1, etc. Factory specc'ed they are superior full stop. I can see I am about to get flamed here but hell I own a GTR and know what it is capable in near stock trim.

Funny as about 6 years ago I nearly bought a BMW just because it is a BMW. They are bloody nice cars. I just have a serious need for speed, handling, and overall fun. Not to mention a true sports car in look and reality. When it comes to modding up the two, the GTR whether it is an R32, R33, or R34 has so much potential. Getting 500hp out of one is childs play. In fact in Japan if your GTR is not over 700hp you are not even taken seriously. There are so many RH9's in Japan it isnt even funny.
It would take quite a bit to get the BMW mill over the 500hp mark.

R33 would kill the M3!:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper

Hey I just thought of a nearly foolproof way to import a Skyline into the states. Go to Japan. Stay there for two weeks. In the beginning of the week buy a Sky, take the engine and most the interior out and ship the body to your house. Right before you leave to come back ship the interior and the engine back. It might cost a little more shipping wise but if I'm not mistaken it would skate right through customs. (Maybe you could say the body is wrecked).


Does ant one think it will work cause I have a friend that is in the military and he might be going to a place where they sell Sky's and I know I want one.

correct me if im wrong but ud still need to change it to US specs, register it and pass US smog emissions tests

sure itd still be imported in, but at the same cost it normally could be . . . except for the fact that now u have to put together the stupid thing . . . and shipping would be a lot more than normal seeing as ur shipping twice seperately, etc . . .

if u want one so bad, bend over and pay

Well I have been looking for this thread for a while. Glad it was brought back.

I went down to the drag strip just last Sunday. It was being run by the Silvia NZ car club.
There were two M3's there. An older school one like late 90's and a brand new one 2002 model.

The best the New model M3 could muster and not with the owner driving was a 13.2 so I am told, but since he qualified for the top 16 eliminator with a 14.2 not so sure but either way it didn't matter.

I was the #2 qualifier with a 12.8 @ 110mph. not bad considering I was getting sideways a few times off the line. The long lasting tyres I have on the car are not the best or suitable for drag racing. Too hard of a compound. 2 good friends with R32 GTR that are still fairy stock hit 12.1 and 11.9 respectively. Both are running a lot more boost than I am ( I am running 13.8psi which and still have the standard boost solenoid) and both are custom tuned by the same guy. The one that did the 11.9 has done an 11.68 on a good cool evening.

BTW I was running in full trim. I took nothing out of the car including the spare and general tools in the tool pack. which means I could have stripped a fair bit of weight out of the car.

So in straight line acceleration the M3 couldn't match any of the GTR's down there.

WAIT ALL OF YOU...

You contrasting the single E46 m3 with a GT-R Skyline R33...
Why Don't you Contrast the skyline GT-R with a Bmw M3 E46 GT-R???
See,Both cars are GT-R now...!!!well...which car is faster now??my vote is the M3 GT-R...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shut this thread down please...it's a year old