All things C6 Z06...

its not bad when its just a fraction of a second off the pace of the gt... and costs much less. but id still take the gt because it has the exotic car factor goin. but ill probably never have a chance of owning either car...

See, I am actually a little different.
I don't care for the look of the GT. Too flashy for me. God would I love to drive one though. Badass performance all around.
Out of those three cars, the Z06 fits my taste the best. I would rather have that package in a car that looked like a base C6 though.

Speaking of kool things... the Base C6 now has a 6 speed paddle shift option.

hot damn... that's badass.

Btw...the msrp on the sticker was around 65k...they were planning on selling them for 103k. :eek7:

IMHO, anyone who pays more than 55k for a 'Vette, regardless of what the hell it is, deserves to be shot...

IMHO, anyone who pays more than 55k for a 'Vette, regardless of what the hell it is, deserves to be shot...


Oh yeah, that's right I forgot... only cars worth a shit above 55K are German. :rolleyes:

IMHO, anyone who pays more than 55k for a 'Vette, regardless of what the hell it is, deserves to be shot...

IMHO, anyone who pays between 26 to 30K for a highly overpiced sedan that a 2002 Maxima costing 12K can beat in most contests is a badge-loving pencil-dick that thinks driving is for picking up chicks, and driving gloves are for keeping your hands warm when you go clubbing at midnight.


Go ahead, take me on in my own thread, asshole. :nono:

Every time i see a C6 z06 it makes me want to double my course load so I can get one sooner... amazing car, chevy really set a new bar with this one.

It outperforms the BMW M5 regardless of it's HP/Liter.

IMHO, anyone who pays between 26 to 30K for a highly overpiced sedan that a 2002 Maxima costing 12K can beat in most contests is a badge-loving pencil-dick that thinks driving is for picking up chicks, and driving gloves are for keeping your hands warm when you go clubbing at midnight.


Go ahead, take me on in my own thread, asshole. :nono:
Lets take it easy you two, it's just cars, not life or death...to each their own.
On the Devil's advocate side of things, I've driven my maxima and a 2000 BMW 323i back to back...my car couldn't touch that thing in terms of handling, refinement, or ergonomics...calling the 3 series overpriced is like calling Veuve Cliquot overpriced...you gotta pay a premium to get the good stuff...BMW is more than a snobby badge...drive one and you'll understand.
On the other side of the argument, 70, 75, even 80 large I believe is an appropriate price for the C6 Z06...it is unfair to say that anything more than 55 large is overpriced for a car that has exotic-like numbers.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that good arguments could be made for both sides of the argument, but you two did it in just about the most immature, disrespectful way I've ever seen :disappoin

Lets take it easy you two, it's just cars, not life or death...to each their own.
On the Devil's advocate side of things, I've driven my maxima and a 2000 BMW 323i back to back...my car couldn't touch that thing in terms of handling, refinement, or ergonomics...calling the 3 series overpriced is like calling Veuve Cliquot overpriced...you gotta pay a premium to get the good stuff...BMW is more than a snobby badge...drive one and you'll understand.
On the other side of the argument, 70, 75, even 80 large I believe is an appropriate price for the C6 Z06...it is unfair to say that anything more than 55 large is overpriced for a car that has exotic-like numbers.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that good arguments could be made for both sides of the argument, but you two did it in just about the most immature, disrespectful way I've ever seen :disappoin
I've owned a BMW before, among other cars, and am a regular, longtime poster at bimmerforums.com. I can tell you that the car is not snobby - some owners are.

One: I'm not about to "argue" with some well-off, snobby a-hole that knows no better than to piss on a well-meaning thread about an awesome car by any standard, besides his "snob value" factor. This is why I tell it like it is off-the-bat. No arguments.

Two: I have been nothing but straightforward in here. I don't bitch about my car in here, I don't bitch about others, except maybe to some extent in the Political Forums - but politicians are fair game. I'm a busy asshole myself, at least for the past year or so I have been, so I have no time to bullshit, or dick around with niceties - at least not with people that do not deserve it, or those that need a verbal slap in the face. If you think that's immature, then have fun with that illusion. Get this: mine was an annoyed reaction. YOU are acting like you know us. I'm not calling you immature in return, but I'm calling you a meddling betty looking to score "maturity points" by calling another - in an issue that doesn't concern you - "immature".

Three: I know you mean well, or in your mind you are saying you are, but please back-off, and let the preppy jackass that looks to ruin this thread respond for himself, as he's the one that purported to be the expert in automotive value around here. Maybe we can start a "brand value advice" forum just for him.

That's all fine and good and all...I can understand you "telling it like it is" if you don't mean to win friends (I'm guessing you don't)...I'm just saying there is a better way around it than making personal insults...that's where you should draw the line because you won't get very far in life acting like that.

Well this thread's turned into a bmw cock fest....

Well this thread's turned into a bmw cock fest....

indeed.

Well this thread's turned into a bmw cock fest....
One BMW post in the midst of 423879 bowtie posts and all of a sudden it's a, as you so eloquently put it, a "BMW cockfest"? I don't understand you (ex)chevy guys sometimes.

guess that makes me a chevy guy... ^^

One BMW post in the midst of 423879 bowtie posts and all of a sudden it's a, as you so eloquently put it, a "BMW cockfest"? I don't understand you (ex)chevy guys sometimes.

Every thread lately has turned into a one...if not BMW some other brand loyal nit wit has to ruin a thread to get his 2 cents in... You can't have an honest discussion around here anymore.

Every thread lately has turned into a one...if not BMW some other brand loyal nit wit has to ruin a thread to get his 2 cents in... You can't have an honest discussion around here anymore.
Well as long as there are cars roaming the earth, there are going to be brand-loyal nitwits...just as there are going to be team-loyal nitwits(NFL, MLB, NHL,....MLS? GO GALAXY!)...just one of those things I guess.

that's where you should draw the line because you won't get very far in life acting like that.

Actually, it's the ones that have gotten "that far", or in the process of "getting that far", that act this way.

I work fifteen feet away from the COO of the billion-dollar company I work for. Trust me, dicking around a subject is what slows you down.

Besides, how do you know I don't have an ulterior motive? Remember when I went off on you? How'd that go? Are you still butt-hurt, hence this little "intervention"?

holy shit! a soccer fan, yeah!

I get griped for going off topic because I laughed at the naysayers first

lovely...

all this crap is taking away from the fun of sane and fun comparing like Mr. Lous put up and how aweome this car is sure we all have brands we like more but give credit where do this car is fucking evil.

Spread the love and props to chevy on this bad boy!

edit: back to topic about that paddle shift i heard a rumor from my boss it'll be coming on the z06 too any info on this?

ps: if you dont like the grammer i'm done tore up!

holy shit! a soccer fan, yeah!
Haha, you know, gotta show love for my sport :icon16:
Hey if it the C6 has a paddle shift option, that means I could actually drive it...

since we're kinda going off topic here.... NISSAN OWNZ JOO!!! j/p

anyways i always love vettes, and i would love to own a C5 Z06, but after seeing a brand spanking new yellow C6 Z06 on the road, my car all of the sudden seems like childs play, god that car is sexy. anyways, the Z06 Vette looks better then any current bimmer out. ( and i love the old E46 Ci's, and i love the new 5 series ) but nothing will turn heads like that C6 Z06 plus it will flat out smoke any production bimmer ever and i mean EVER made.

BMW and Honda have no trouble making over 100 hp/liter, but look at how late you get it in your powerband; look under the torque curve. The Z06 may be making only 505 horsepower out of 7 liters, but it gets it RIGHT away, all over the powerband. And besides, who cares about hp/liter? That doesn't dictate how fast a car is. Power/weight is what matters, and the Z06 excels in that area.

Wow...somehow this has become a Vette vs. Bimmer thread.
And Tat, remember that the McLaren F1 is at least half-BMW

this thread = :boink:

Wow...somehow this has become a Vette vs. Bimmer thread.
And Tat, remember that the McLaren F1 is at least half-BMW


Yeah, but you're also paying a cool million for that thing...

But, now I'm curious...

McLaren F1
Price: $890,000
Miles Per Gallon: 12 mpg
Curb Weight: 2840 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V12
Displacement: 6064 cc
Horsepower: 627 bhp @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 7500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 7.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 125 mph
Skidpad: .86g
Top Speed: 231 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 127 ft
Slalom Speed: 64.5 mph

Not Bad.

C6 Z06
Price: $65,800
Miles Per Gallon: 18 mpg
Curb Weight: 3150lbs
Layout: Front Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6 speed manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 7000cc
Horsepower: 505 @ 6300rpm
Torque: 470 @ 4800rpm
Redline: 7000
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.5
0-100 mph: 7.3
Quarter Mile: 11.5 @ 127mph
Skidpad: .98g (1.05g on race track with a max of 1.12g just before loss of traction)
Topspeed: 198mph
Braking, 60-0: 104ft
Slalom Speed: n/a can't find it on google.


Neato.

Those are some of the worst numbers I've ever seen for the F1 (.86 max cornering load? Come on, my car does that), but the point I was trying to make was that tat said no BMW made could ever touch the C6 Z06...I was just throwing that out there for argument's sake, regardless of price.

http://www.2sportscars.com/f1.shtml
http://www.modernracer.com/features/worldsfastestcars4.html

:p

but the info luos posted had the z06's 0-60 at 4.1 and the 1/4 at 12 flat, ive also seen it rated at 12.2... those are quite a bit different.

pssh... My old LeSabre TType could take both of those...

but the info luos posted had the z06's 0-60 at 4.1 and the 1/4 at 12 flat, ive also seen it rated at 12.2... those are quite a bit different.


The times Motor Trend posted are 11.5 @ 127mph.

I've also seen times for the McLaren F1 at 11.1 @ 132mph... For the price of the McLaren you aren't really getting that much more performance than the Z06.

Odd.

True, but at that price point your buying exclusivity, and the name. You'll never turn heads in a Z06 like you would in an f1. The Z06 won't have the special quirks (for lack of a better word) of the f1 like the center mounted seat. Same with ferrari's and lamborghinis.

No doubt the new z06 is a hell of a performance bargain, but in my eyes you can't compare cars of that caliber the same as other cars. Atleast thats my outlook on it.

Yes, McLaren only made like 100 of those babies...mega-exclusive
Who knows how many Z06's will be made.
Plus, the McLaren F1 is a one-off specialty car...the Z06 could be looked at as just a souped-up Vette.

For the price of the McLaren you aren't really getting that much more performance than the Z06.



nope there really is no denying that

Also, it's a bit unfair to be comparing a brand new car to an almost 11 year-old car...huge technological leaps have been made in performance in those 11 years.

Info I got was for a '97 McLaren.

Last year for them...

Bah...11 years...9 years...six of one half dozen of the other.
9 years ago a maxima only had 190 horsepower.

Sunofabitch.

What the fuck are we? Twelve?

This thread was posted for those that might like to see the capabilities of the new Z06.

It's one thing to call the car ugly, as was done in the Bugatti thread. It's one thing to say that it makes inefficient power.

It's another to say that the car isn't worth a certain amount, because it's a certain type/brand of car, and not on the merits of what it can do, or what it offers.

Also, this juvenile/assinine bullshit with the Z06, and the McLaren. Holy fucking shit people. Each car does what it does, and they cost what they cost. I'd give an arm and a leg for each one - it just so happens that one requires a MUCH bigger piece of each limb. SO FUCKING WHAT? Go to car comparisons if you want to do that bullshit.

The fact that the debate is in here, is because some snot wanted a good parting shot, which should've been totally ignored at that point.

Either way, way to kill what could have been an excellent thread.


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As for you, you little fucking coward piece of shit Cassie, whoever the fuck you are, you preppy snot...

...I left this open until now, so that you could prove me wrong about you, and allow you to slap my words back at me, but your lackey that curently carries your quote in his sig is intent on dragging this farther, and farther into Childishville. You know - Mr. Mature. So either I am right about you, or you are not man enough to speak for yourself.

Maybe the next time you denigrate a whole community of car enthusiasts, or attempt to ruin a thread, because the subject is "not worthy", maybe, JUST maybe, you'll think twice about it.

People like YOU are the reason why I loved, and do miss, my beat-up, old Sentra SE-R so much. Watching your snotty expression turn into sour-grapes, as that old Sentra walks away from you would have made my year. At least I'd be far enough ahead of you to not hear the standard: "at least I drove home in a BMW".

Either way, I called you out as a jackass, and barring a response, a jackass you shall remain in my books.