Street Race...T.T

Why street race? I don't get it couldn't you guys just take it to some local track or something? I am just totally against street racing so, thats why I am saying it, but just a reminder...street racing did kill people ( remember that baby girl with her mom? ) Anyways guys just wanted to tell you guys to becareful and such. and if you guys can please take it to the tracks. I am just assuming most of you guys street race here because this is a street racing topic section...but just wanted to say becareful and if you can take it to the strip. =D Thanks guys.

For sure. There's more than you think though. We all here are well aware of the risks we take by street racing. You are more than welcome to be concerned with the events that could take place while street racing. But truthfully, there are more dangerous crimes out there than street racing to be concerned about.

It's a rush. It's a thrill. It's a chance to prove what your car has got outside of the track. And, the best part is, you never know what you are up against when you race a stranger just cruising along the way. It's always a guess, and it's a chance to prove your superiority or vice versa. (That is unless you happen to know who you are dealing with).

Thank you for your worries, and we'll all be sure to be careful for the sake of people like you. No worries, just fun. That's all. :thumbsup:

100 mph switchin lanes like WHOA...

Thanks for your concern....now prepare to be flamed. Nobody here like's to hear what you just said usually. They usually will tell whoever said it to f*ck off. FYI

No one here makes a living street racing sir. Almost all the street races you'll read about in here are just chance meetings on a road somewhere, i haven't seen hardly anyone on here go to organized street racing events. Your concern is welcome although unnecessary since everyone here knows the risks.

Drunk driving kills people ( a lot more then street racing ) so why not post that on every forum? Not everyone is a douschebag at driving fast. There are ways to seriously cut the risks of getting into a wreck. Driving fast doesn't mean you're going to wreck.

It''s easy to street race. It's not as controlled, but your never forced to race one type of way so you can test you car in diffferent ways. I don't have to wait in line, and its open 24/7. Just don't get caught.

you know guys, i also enjoyed street racing forsome time now. I know why most of you guys do it, but after all the events and the risk of getting F* by the cops I'm just saying isn't it better just going to the strip? I feel more safe, and I have more fun when I am at the strip. I feel the same rush as when I was street racing. thats all. and I know no one here street races for a living, but its just too dangerous. I mean when you think about street racers can be summed up as people who are selfish because they only think about their needs needs to feel the rush while street racing and such they never think about who they might endanger.

Not everyone has a strip nearby. I don't so I've only been able to go once. Not nearly as fun, and while I really do wish there was one closer, until that happens and even if it does, Im gonna street race.

WOW, I'm tired of these fucking losers.

First of all, the closest track to me is 40 minutes away, you fucking pansies are more than welcome to pay my entrance fee,the cost of gas driving there on top of an hourly wage for taking time away from my normal driving to do this. Now who's being the selfish bastard and making me pay all that stupid expenses because your too afraid of a little street racing.
Anyone who goes at any speed is endangering everyone because anything can happen, risks just don't appear from going 10km/h and up from the speed limit...they are always there. Most of thew time, people aren't stupid enough to race where you have to swerve in and out of traffic, and for those that do, who FUCKING cares.
No one is trying to run your life so stop trying to run everyone else's.

I'm just here to discuss with current street racers about why they street race. I want to know more in detail and i decided to start it by saying the above statements. I'm am not here to run anyones lifes, O btw if you have money to modify your ride, Im pretty sure you can save enough for gas and the entrance fee. Some people here I guess just doesn't want to discuss anything like men, so they have to start "shouting" and getting all angry and such. As I said in the above statements I was once a frequent street racer also. I just wanted to know why most of the people who still street race keep on doing it. I have heard some very good reasons like there is no drag strip close enough. Thats the kind of answers that I was looking for. I am a pansy? I decided not to street race because I felt really bad for the little child who died while walking with her mom late at night. two cars were street racing, and one car lost control and ran over the mother and the daughter. My enjoyment at the streets wasn't worth other people getting killed. Yes you made a good point in saying that driving itself is dangerous, but when you take it to another level and go over 100MPH, thats another story.
As I said already, I am here to discuss the reasons why the current street racers keep going out in the streets. The reason that I am doing this is because I am writing a 15 page essay on this topic. I am sorry if I got some people angry with my posts, but that wasn't my intention. I just wanted to have a discussion. And if you are still pissed at my posts, then I suggest you don't read it. =) thanks
~David

Oops, I just crapped my pants!

Uh, I street race for a living. For those 10-18 seconds, I'm free.

^ eh??

If you feel so bad about innocent people dying, then there are far worse things to worry about then street racing. Maybe getting invovled with your community and helping the homeless, maybe even getting 2 rival gangs to come to peace. How about voicing your opinion on the wars that have killed thoussands and killing more each day. Why is street racing top priority for you people?
Obviously risks increase at higher speeds, but everyone is aware they are speeding and are more alert to the situation...thus increase risk for speeding and decrease for being more alert, kind of evens out don't you think? Whats so different racing on the street and on a track, are the risks of speeding gone because there are no medians or centerlines?
The best argument against street racing is "something could happen and everyone on the road can die, die, DIE!!!". Well I have news for you..anything can happen anytime and someone ends up being hurt or worse no matter how safe you play it.

if you yourself were once a street racer, then you know exactly why people do it.
everyone's got their own reasons. personally, i like to hear people say things like "damn is that thing stock?" and "shit, those maxima's are quick".

plus it's fun. when you and your friends were little didn't you race each other on your pedal bikes? Same with dirt bikes and such. it's just people's natural tendency to compete. If you have a machine with any performance potential, people tend to wanna use that performance and compare it to that of others. then comes the fact that race tracks in certain parts of the country are scarce. the nearest track to me is about an hour and a half away and costs $20 to get, at most, three measely runs down the track. It's not worth it when the local interstate is less than a mile from my front door.

raz kaz, in a drag strip it is safer because it is controlled. If you lose control you only hurt yourself, there is less chance of someone else getting hurt for the drivers mistakes. The risk of speeding is not gone but it is somewhat controlled. I do voice my opinions on other subjects but this isn't the place to do it. and what do you mean by you people? also being more alert doesn't mean that the driver can't lose control. I keep comin back to this example but lets say the two cars that were racing the night the mother and the child died went to a drag strip, or maybe they were too far from it thats fine, why couldn't they go race in a deserted business street? Why local streets
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Yes I was once a street racer myself and here is some of the reasons why I did it. I loved to talk sh*t after beating another driver, I loved the feeling I get when I floor the throttle. I like to compete with the car that I worked so hard on. The risk of getting cought, crashing, was always there and it made it much more exciting.

But I can also get the same feelings at the drag strip couldn't I? For thoes people who live way to far to a local drag strip I am not talking to your guys. I understand if you live too far away, but to thoes who live pretty near. Couldn't you guys get the same excitment the same intensity at a drag strip?

On the streets there are people walking and also there are other drivers.
Drag strip, there is just you and your opponent. I'm just trying to understand. As I said before I am not talking to thoes people who live too far from the local drag strips. BTW Is 30 mintues too far?

Everyone says street racing is dangerous...

I street race, and Im still alive.

Dale Erndheart raced on a track, and he died.

Some dude on a motorcycle got his arm blown off on a track race. Never seen that happen on the street.

I think I'll take my risks.

By the way guys, my buddies dad was seriously injured when he fell down a staircase last year. So please guys, dont walk down staircases, I dont think I could stand to think of any of you getting hurt by a stair case accident.

=) very funny. +) I guess you guys feel like I am saying everything is dangerous huh? As I said there is risks everywhere, but isn't there less risk when it is somewhat controlled? o0 bike injuries I have seen many times in the streets. Just because you haven't seen one doesn't mean that there isn't any. And if you want to talk about which one is more dangerous, isn't there more accidents in the streets even without anyone going above 90MPH?

[QUOTE=<SSR>David]I keep comin back to this example but lets say the two cars that were racing the night the mother and the child died went to a drag strip, or maybe they were too far from it thats fine, why couldn't they go race in a deserted business street? Why local streets
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We cant answer for them. Most of the people on these boards try to be responsible in when and where they race. However there will always be those few who ruin it for everyone and do stupid things.

I think this thread will turn into another argument thread. I didn't want it to be, but reading the posts that other members have made i feel like it will turn into another one of thoes argument threads. So i will stop it right here. =)

It's the idiots who don't really know a whole lot(the ones who don't belong to forums like this) that do stupid stuff.

I want to be an automotive technician so I know I've gotta stop BSing, I've slowly weening myself off of this stuff, I haven't actually raced in the longest time(I think 2-3 months?), but I still occasionally do a burnout or see if the butt-o-meter can verify my 0-60 time. Although the closest drag strip is about an hour away, I'm hoping I can save enough money and afford to go once every couple months.

well not everyone of us races whenever we get the chance too. we too will decide whether or not it's worth it to race. we also use our instincts to feel if its even safe to race at a certain place in the area at a certain time. also most of our races happens late at night with almost no other drivers on the road.

yes theres risk to everything, but i would say people who can't drive for shit is waaay more dangerous on the road then we are. they're always putting people's life in danger when we only do it a few times a year =).

and yes i've been to the track before and its great and all, but the track i go to is 100 miles away. so thats basically 50 dollars round trip for gas, 20 dollars in tolls, 15 dollars entrance fee, and 20 dollars for race gas. the total cost for around 3 runs down the track and waiting in line for 40 minutes at a time? $105. not to mention it takes around 3 hours to get there with traffic and coming back so total i would spend about 10 hours to get there, race and come back. hardly what i call convient at all.

stupid fu*king bullshit!
theres like what, over 11,000 human deaths from mother fu*king guns in america alone each year and mother fu*kers are worried about street racing? what the fu*k controll the guns first then worry about all the terrable mother fu*king ignorant evil fu*king street racers. holy shit.



no im just joking they should do what they want

i feel u on that one TatII. its a bother to go like 40miles to get to the closest track. if i feel safe ill race, otherwise u usually pass up the opertunity to race the guy next to you. generally speaking you do check the surroundings before you race on the street generally...but its just more fun to do it as many times as you want when a nice long strip of buisness street is literally 300 yards from my house. its about 3/8 of a mile.

of course there will be the 16 year old that wants to race everyone in his rusted out old car that runs maybe 18s, 19s tops and can bearly control the damn thing above 60mph. those are the people that ruin it. otherwise, i think that 2 street racers racing down a street is more safe than driving in heavy traffic because when u are driving with another racer, you know what to expect from each person, but in heavy traffic people aren't always paying attention and it isn't easy to read what they are going to do next.

I decided not to street race because I felt really bad for the little child who died while walking with her mom late at night. two cars were street racing, and one car lost control and ran over the mother and the daughter. My enjoyment at the streets wasn't worth other people getting killed. Yes you made a good point in saying that driving itself is dangerous, but when you take it to another level and go over 100MPH, thats another story.
~David


first of all when people are doing 100+mph..they are usually on the freeways. and i dont know of many moms and daughters walking across the freeways late at night. and most people here race from light to light (which is lighted up and no person SHOULD be walking acrcoss) or on the freeway. And like stated before they usually always race late at night..you dont find many people who go out in the day time and look for races. so most moms and daughters should be home..in bed..

i guess your kind of talking to the wrong crowd here, everyone here is usually safe...atleast the stories i read about and just about everyone here is 18 or older with some driving experience. while yes there are a few exceptions to the age thing...they dont normally race either

I've been in more near-accidents when driving normally, usually caused by the idiot driver either being distracted or was too dumb to knwo the rules of the road. I have never been in a near-accident when racing, so I guess it's "safer" for me to race then not to huh?
How is the speed more controlled on a track? Your still going at the same velocity as the streets. You still have the chance of hitting the other driver, going over the wall and killing a spectator.
Fine, let's take your exmaple for a second. If those 2 drivers would have gone ot the track instead then maybe the daughter and mother would still be alive. Or maybe they would have been killed by a drunk driver, or someone that fell asleep, or they were kidnapped, or robbed and shit.
Do you see what I'm trying to say?

stupid fu*king bullshit!
theres like what, over 11,000 human deaths from mother fu*king guns in america alone each year and mother fu*kers are worried about street racing? what the fu*k controll the guns first then worry about all the terrable mother fu*king ignorant evil fu*king street racers. holy shit.



no im just joking they should do what they want

Gun control is using both hands and keeping your eyes on the target.

Gun control is using both hands and keeping your eyes on the target.
Spoken like a true Texan :disappoin

:iceslolan

what your sayings are ifs. The two drivers didn't and the mother and daughter is dead. What I ment when I said the speed was more controled was there is less distraction for the driver. The other peoples comments I really respect and apprciate but yours Raz you have been comin to this thread with a really hot head. you do have some good points, but don't come at me like Im trying to kill you or something=) just trying to have a good discussion.

99redmaxSE-L
The mother and daughter was killed because one of the race car driver lost control and went on the sidewalk where the mother and the daughter was walking home. It wasn't on the freeway. Yes I do believe that I was talking to the wrong people =) Everyone seemes to be safe drivers here. safe drivers but hard to talk too. some of the people come at me like they want to bite off my head. +D I just posted this thread here because it was on the street racing section and I wanted to discuss these things with people who regularly race on the streets.

So far the only information that I saw was productive of this thread was that when there is no track close enough, people take it to the streets. I think as time progresses more programs will open up and there will be more organizations that will set up small drag strips. I know in some states there are many organizations that does this every weekend and they are all free. +)

If this does happen will many current street racers go to thoes events?

LOL, yes what I said were "if's" and "maybe's". Same thing goes for street racing or anything else.


Point is that something bad could happen no matter what you are doing. And unfortunatly no matter how many bad cases there are, no matter how hard you try to crub the direction of some folks it all comes down to whether or not they want to change.

I know in some states there are many organizations that does this every weekend and they are all free. +)

If this does happen will many current street racers go to thoes events?


hell, if you put a strip nice and close to me and it was FREE....id be there every damn day i could be...but its not that way..thats why im not there

LOL, yes what I said were "if's" and "maybe's". Same thing goes for street racing or anything else.


Point is that something bad could happen no matter what you are doing. And unfortunatly no matter how many bad cases there are, no matter how hard you try to crub the direction of some folks it all comes down to whether or not they want to change.

99redmaxSE-L
Do you think its safe to assume that everyone else feels the same way as you? o0?

worry about the people on the cell phone and painting they're toe nails while driving, or the people driving while intoxicated...

guys im not worring about anything. As I said before Im just here to discuss with other members about this topic. =) Besides I don't think we need to discuss about people like that. From what I hear the cops are bringing it down hard on thoes kinds of people. =D

from what i hear cops are bringing it down hard on street racing too

yes they are, when they are cought.

99redmaxSE-L
Do you think its safe to assume that everyone else feels the same way as you? o0?


its never safe to assume anything thats how u make an ass out of your self. but i would say that ya alot more people would b going if it were free..and close

from what i hear cops are bringing it down hard on street racing too

Same thing for drunks

Listen, if you want a good discussion on street racing and why it's bad, go talk to some cops then. You're just going to get the same results over and over here. I've seen it over and over again in this same thread in just the past three pages.

In closing, this thread itself should be closed. It's not really going anywhere other than to one huge argument that isn't needed. End of discussion.

thats what I posted up there -.-...but the discussion kept on going so I just followed. =D

Excerpt from post #1Why street race? I don't get it couldn't you guys just take it to some local track or something? I am just totally against street racing
Excerpt from post #2you know guys, i also enjoyed street racing forsome time now. I know why most of you guys do it, but after all the events and the risk of getting F* by the cops I'm just saying isn't it better just going to the strip? I feel more safe, and I have more fun when I am at the strip. I feel the same rush as when I was street racing. thats all.
Excerpt from post #3As I said already, I am here to discuss the reasons why the current street racers keep going out in the streets. The reason that I am doing this is because I am writing a 15 page essay on this topic. I am sorry if I got some people angry with my posts, but that wasn't my intention. I just wanted to have a discussion. And if you are still pissed at my posts, then I suggest you don't read it. =) thanks
Wouldn't it have been a little better (and maybe a little less hypocritical) to explain all of the above on the very first post instead of making us sort of beat it out of you? Yes I agree there is a certain safety factor racing at the track, problem is a lot of tracks got closed so like whats already been stated more than once, sometimes going to the track is not an option, and yes it is really not a cheap date for the amount of runs you get if the track is busy, but people also get seriously hurt or killed at a track too, not necessarily the driver either.

Granted the situation with the little girl and her mother that has been reitterated many times definitely should not of happened and was bad judgement by the people involved but those types of people are the ones that put this activity in the limelight and the object of public scorn, a lot of the people here are a little more responsible and aware of the consequences.

If you read a lot of the stories in this forum, most likely it is about events that occur usually on a freeway, or a highway, but hardly city streets, every once in a great while here do you read stories about there being heavy traffic or weaving around other vehicles like running a slalom course, but really those posts are few and far between. And you can bet the posts here that describe those types of circumstances also get the flaming like you got from your post so there are 2 sides of the coin when it comes to this subject.

Man, I can't leave this forum for a day unattended with out threads blabbing on with repeating nonsense.

This thread is on repeat now... all the points have been said.

We're done guys. Closed.