My Progress on my S2000. Serious Newbie Here...

Hey Guys, :smile:

This is the first time that I am using an Airbrush, but I have done alot of reading on the forums on how to do it. I'm sure you guys will notice MANY mistakes but I think that for my first try, I have done pretty well!

Anyway...

I would appreciate it if you guys can be brutally honest in how I can improve. :smokin:

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-gabbadude

I think it looks great. Wouldn't have guesses it was the first go with the air brush. Looks nice and even (unlike my first and last :banghead: go with an airbrush)

You can improve by posting progress threads in the Completed and In-Progress Projects - Street and Show Forum.

Paint looks good though. :bigthumb:

I'd love to be brutally honest, but I really don't see anything wrong with it. No dust in the paint, no uneven coverage, no mold lines.

Looks perfect.

Look better than my first airbrush paint job.

Put a clear over this and it will look very good.

I wouldn't say perfect.

There are some dust particles here and there. I think the camera and the light played some tricks to hide the dust particles. Sucks though cause from what I've read, I am going to have to wet sand it down and respray. :banghead:

I never knew there was a section on in progress and stuff. You would think that by reading these forums, I would've noticed that. :screwy:

Anyway... I will definitely do the in progress threads.

In all honesty, silver is a hard color to paint! It liiks very even and smooth! Great job!!!

thanks. :)

that looks great to me man. Looks like you caught on real quick to using an airbrush. Nice job bro.....................*Ryan*

Wow, thats awesome! What kind of paint is that?

-= Thanks =- :)

Tamiya Acrylic. It's actually a mix between X-11 and X10. I think. I'm at work right now so I can't double check those paint codes. Will check again when I get home.

Dude, self-criticism is a good way of improving but don't be too hard on yourself. From what I'm seeing, you're doing great. With more builds and experience, you'll be the expert in no time! Enjoy modelling, that's the most important.

Ok, Here's the latest...

I am quite new to this progress thread thing so bare with me. :)

As you can see here, this is my latest coat of color. I stripped the silver down because I wasn't happy with the dust particles in my paint. I then decided that the color wasn't what I really wanted. I haven't seen a red S2000 on the threads so I decided to make mine red and also because I love the color. I did 2 mist coats and then a wetcoat. I am still going to give it another 2 coats for deepen the red. So check it out!!

http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2273.jpg
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http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2274.jpg

I have primed most of the parts and also given a good paint job to the under chassis.

http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2254.jpg
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http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2261.jpg
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And the chassis:
http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2276.jpg
This is just dry fitted. You will noticed the rear axel is a little messy. That's because I havn't painted it yet. I stripped the paint and ruined it a little but I have done a fix up job and it is still in the process of being corrected. As you can see at the bottom of this post. It will be done properly soon. I promise!! I will post more pics of it.
http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2277.jpg
http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2280.jpg

S2000 looks good in red.. In the UK the S2000 has a soft-top the same colour as the body, just in a slightly different shade, and flat...

Nice job on the paintwork, another wet coat and the colour will really jump out.. If you add two wet coats, as it's a solid colour you won't need a clear coat and you can rub out the colour coat.. But be careful not to rub through to to the primer...

And the rear part you fixed up will be fine once you get it mounted in the sub frame. I broke mine in two places.. It's a very fragile part..

Thanks Mickbench, I've decided that my model won't have a top at all. I like the convertable look. :)

That part is a b1tch to handle! Feels like each move you make will break it. Anyway, Thanks to Okiemodelbuilder for the suggestion, I drilled a hole into the axel shaft and then into the diff. I cut a piece of Sprue into a thin shaft small enough to fit inside the drilled holes. This has given it some support. As you can see in the image to the right as the axel shaft meets the diff.

Anyway...I am really glad that you guys are here! I probably never would've dared to try and fix it. I am such a perfectionist that I would've preferred a new part but then I thought to myself, What the heck,...we are here to build and learn so I figured, what's the point of building if we can't fix our mistakes. And there you have it. My part is back in business...

:D

Putting a pin into the part was a good idea.. Should have done that myself..

And I like it all to be perfect. Nothing wrong with that.. Problem is, my perfection costs me, as I like to have the best, and buy all the goodies and buy the top brand paints etc.... I try and get it as cheap as possible but most of my builds cost me £50 and more...

Keep at it.. It's a great kitset, and I enjoyed building mine, so much so that I brought the kit again..!!

And your rims are on the way.. You might want to strip the gold off, or you might like it.. Up to you really..

Thanks Mickbench. I can't wait anymore to get those rims. Can you post another pic?

wow...i dont believe this is your first try! i hope mine turns out that way....

i'm not sure what models im going to buy from hlj yet.

cya

a clear coat or two and some polishing and wax would do the trick! Nice painting btw, no uneven areas and not thick either.

Thanks, Well, It's actually my third try. I stripped the silver off twice and then decided on Red. :D

I think I'm going to hold back on the clear coat for now. I want to see how it will come out without it.

So, what do you guys think? The black interior or the red interior? I really like the red interior.

http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/honda_choice.jpg

Great paint, awesome for your first/second job. I would go with the black and red interior because I think it flows witht eh car better..

Thanks, that's what I was thinking. Although, Honda doesn't seem to manufacture them like that though with the red body. They only manufacture the red interior with the silverstone metallic or the Sebring Silver Metallic. Everything else is a black interior, tan or blue. But I love the red interior with the red body.

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/exterior_colors.asp?ModelName=S2000

~*gabbadude *~

looks great, I bet you are hooked on airbrushes now, huh? I haven't used but a few colors from rattle cans since I got my airbrush about 10 years ago, just so much more control, and less overspray so you use more of your paint.

as for your paint jobs, they look awesome. airbrush is difficult to get used to, specially when you need to thin and mix paints. I like the red with red interior too. I'd go with that dark blood red looking color for the interior, and top, that'd look sweet.

I am not sugar coating this either. brutally honest...
you took such close up pics of that paint, and I saw VERY FEW imperfections that I'm sure a clear and a polish would have been all you needed for a show quality job. but that red looks a bit milky for some reason. may just be the lighting. good even coats, and it may just need a few more wet coats for that "milky" finish to go away. who knows.....I like it alot!!

Thanks for the compliments rsxse240, :bananasmi the truth is, It was sprayed with Tamiya TS-8(Italian Red). I still have to apply another 2-3 coats before it's complete. So, that would explain the milkiness. Its the primer still slightly showing through. :D

Anyway... I do agree with you on the airbrush. It's great. So much more control. It really is my first model that I am building so I am trying very hard for it to be perfect. I am just about to lay down another 2 coats of color. Will post more pics once done. I am also about to spray all the parts that need semi-gloss black.

More pics to come.

Ok, so i could cry right now. :crying: I have already stripped this down twice. I dont want to start again!!!!

This is my version of fish eye. :banghead: :swear: How do I fix this??? Please help!!

http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2285.jpg

i can barely see that....i think you could leave that, but if your a perfectionist...btw i would go with the black on red interior.

Thanks, but its a little more obvious when you are close up. :(

Thanks, but its a little more obvious when you are close up.


oh alright....that sucks then...a little off topic: are you from belgium or holland? just wanted to know:P

Thanks Mickbench, I've decided that my model won't have a top at all. I like the convertable look. :)

That part is a b1tch to handle! Feels like each move you make will break it. Anyway, Thanks to Okiemodelbuilder for the suggestion, I drilled a hole into the axel shaft and then into the diff. I cut a piece of Sprue into a thin shaft small enough to fit inside the drilled holes. This has given it some support. As you can see in the image to the right as the axel shaft meets the diff.

Anyway...I am really glad that you guys are here! I probably never would've dared to try and fix it. I am such a perfectionist that I would've preferred a new part but then I thought to myself, What the heck,...we are here to build and learn so I figured, what's the point of building if we can't fix our mistakes. And there you have it. My part is back in business...

:D

that's what's great about plastic, 9 times out of 10 it's fixable. good looking build by the way!!

for the fish eyes you may be able to wet sand before your next coat and smooth out the area where the fish eyes are.

i know you have the chassis painted but here's a pic of the underside of an S2000. gives you a good idea on the colors of the exhaust system!

http://weaverwebsite.com/model cars/HONDAS2000.jpg

builderweave, THAT's great!! Thanks for this. I needed it really badly. I have been looking around alot for a ref pic of the under chassis of the real deal.

Man I can't thank you enough... :cheers:

I notice already that in the instructions it tells you to spray the underskirts black including the rear bumper. The real car doesn't have that. Also, the under chassis doesn't actually have the color of the body underneathe. It's actually a flat dull grey. This is really interesting and helpful.

I think I'm going to wet sand and try again.

Thanks man... :lol2:

no problem. i saw this pic and thought i better save it as it's one of the few pics of the bottom of any car. i have yet to start my S2000 but when i do i'll glad i had this pic. good luck with the paint!!

I had an idea, What do you guys think of this color scheme? The black will of course be more glossy...

http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/new_color_design.jpg

don't black it carbon it but if not carbon it then black it

I had an idea, What do you guys think of this color scheme? The black will of course be more glossy...
i have an even better idea....leef the glossy black, make it carbon fibre!! i love ethe color scheme!

oops, smiley butcher was 9 mins before me, but i left it open for a while...sorry smiley butcher!

Im a newbie so carbon will come later for me. But, does that mean you like the black? The trunk will also be black to keep the flow of colors.

Im a newbie so carbon will come later for me. But, does that mean you like the black? The trunk will also be black to keep the flow of colors.

i love the black! yeah i havent worked with carbon yet either, and if you want it flawless, its gonna be a hard job from what i heard.

ps do you speak dutch? because gabbadude is sort of a 'culture' in the benelux.

hi bkvj, I'm actually South Africa. :D Not dutch. but I suppose that I could be part dutch because I have an afrikaans surname and afrikaans is close to dutch. But I inherited the afrikaans surname from my father's side.

To answer your question, I can't speak a word of dutch. :)

It seems that I have only had 2 opinions here. Can I get some more please?

MPWR, mickbench, ZoomZoom, Primer Man, ...

Come on, I would like to know the general opinions before I go ahead with this.

My opinion, whatever it's worth as I'm the guy who enjoys the eye wrenching qualities of color-shifting paint jobs, is that if you want to do black on the hood and trunk, then extend it onto the nose and rear bumper. Make it a really thick stripe, rather than make it look like the guy needed a new hood and trunk and didn't bother to color match in the least. If you want the carbon look, I've always liked the painted over carbon look, so get some hi-def carbon decals, put them on, and then give the whole car a once or twice over with clear red.

Just my two cents.

hi bkvj, I'm actually South Africa. Not dutch. but I suppose that I could be part dutch because I have an afrikaans surname and afrikaans is close to dutch. But I inherited the afrikaans surname from my father's side. To answer your question, I can't speak a word of dutch.


ooh thats why:)

Thanks deltableh, but I'm not sure about that. I quite like the black bonnet and trunk.

What does everyone else think?

My opinion, whatever it's worth as I'm the guy who enjoys the eye wrenching qualities of color-shifting paint jobs, is that if you want to do black on the hood and trunk, then extend it onto the nose and rear bumper. Make it a really thick stripe, rather than make it look like the guy needed a new hood and trunk and didn't bother to color match in the least. If you want the carbon look, I've always liked the painted over carbon look, so get some hi-def carbon decals, put them on, and then give the whole car a once or twice over with clear red. Just my two cents.

i think we both have 2 very other opinions. im the guy who flat out hates the color shifting paint...its so...so....ricer(in the uk at least). i never thought it would look right on a car, same as with 20'' chrome wheels on civic size cars. but im getting al little off topic now...let gabbadude make his own decision:)

well,
i have decided to go with the black bonnet and trunk. I am on my way to the LHS to get TS-14(Berlina Black) c u lata...

~* gabbadude *~

well, i have decided to go with the black bonnet and trunk. I am on my way to the LHS to get TS-14(Berlina Black) c u lata... ~* gabbadude *~

awesome!

Wow, wish I saw this build earlier, you are doing an awesome job with that S2k. Probably a little late for my opinion, but I think your color scheme is perfect, especially since you're going with the red/black interior. Just remember that even though it's nice to get a general consensus of what the car should look like, it's your car in the end. Keep up the great work, can't wait to see more!

Thanks alakai, This is my first model so, I want it to be perfect. I am also the kind of person that likes to be a little different. I think that most newbies would stick to the instructions to the letter, but I want this s2000 to be a little different to the rest of the s2000's on these forums. I haven't seen a red one yet. :D

Hey, check it out!! I'm no longer a newbie but an enthusiast. KEWL!! :bananasmi

Red /Black is a good combo, but I think the hood should be CF if you were to go down that route. and CF isn't easy to work with..

If I was you, be happy with what ever the model turns out like, it's your first model, perfection takes time. I've built 7 models this year, and have a few now in progress and all of them are far from perfect..

Aim to finish, not to make it pefect.. Perfection is a by product, that I think comes with time, practice and getting some models in the display cab.

This is my first model so, I want it to be perfect.

You CAN'T make your first model perfect (unless you make your living as a graphics artist or the like, and have years of experince with an airbrush already). Your first model should look decent when you put it on your shelf when you're done, and you're next five should be improvements on it. You'll make yourself crazy otherwise. It's a learning process....

And skip the black paint. Yes, it looks cool, but the red looks great, too. Masking the bonnet is alot to take on for your first build. Keep it simple, and finish it!

You CAN'T make your first model perfect (unless you make your living as a graphics artist or the like, and have years of experince with an airbrush already). Your first model should look decent when you put it on your shelf when you're done, and you're next five should be improvements on it. You'll make yourself crazy otherwise. It's a learning process.... And skip the black paint. Yes, it looks cool, but the red looks great, too. Masking the bonnet is alot to take on for your first build. Keep it simple, and finish it!

i think gabbadude wants to make an as good as possible first model:iceslolan and IMO, hes going to do that actually:sunglasse

i havent build a model yet, and seeing some pro-projects(including yours), most of the people around here have a long way to go to turn as pro as you.

i think we can see a lot more work from gabbadude, which are even better than his S2K, as you can actually only improve

ps: MPWR, dont take this wrong, i wanted it to write it as nice as i could, and i mean that to, as i have a lot off respect for you.

Thanks bkvj, That's a really cool thing to say...

Actually, I really enjoy the fact that I have many opinions. It gives me a better idea on how to approach the challenges. I LOVE challenges and I must say, I have run into quite a few already. But I am going to strive to overcome it. I think I will stick with the black. Only because I'm stubborn and Love the colors. I am going to stay away from CF for now. I don't want to run just yet, I only just learning to walk. :D

I have up 'til now learnt an incredible amount of patience and new ways of doing things. I am becoming more and more daring as I go along. :) I have become a pro "paint stripper" seeing as though I am going to strip for a third time. I know, I know...

It's crazy, but I want it to be just right.

Thanks bkvj, That's a really cool thing to say...

Actually, I really enjoy the fact that I have many opinions. It gives me a better idea on how to approach the challenges. I LOVE challenges and I must say, I have run into quite a few already. But I am going to strive to overcome it. I think I will stick with the black. Only because I'm stubborn and Love the colors. I am going to stay away from CF for now. I don't want to run just yet, I only just learning to walk. :D

I have up 'til now learnt an incredible amount of patience and new ways of doing things. I am becoming more and more daring as I go along. :) I have become a pro "paint stripper" seeing as though I am going to strip for a third time. I know, I know...

It's crazy, but I want it to be just right.

I think going with the black instead of the carbon is a good idea. Once you get a couple of builds under your belt then you should step off into the realm of customizing. It can be overwhelming to try all of those things at once. It took me 3 trys to get the carbon fiber on my 350Z and even then it didn't turn out prefect. Next time I'll know better what and what not to do. It's better to start off with the basics just to get a grasp on what all goes into these builds. I think this car is going to turn out fantastic!! Especially for a 1st build.

Thanks builderweave.

Thanks bkvj, That's a really cool thing to say... Actually, I really enjoy the fact that I have many opinions. It gives me a better idea on how to approach the challenges. I LOVE challenges and I must say, I have run into quite a few already. But I am going to strive to overcome it. I think I will stick with the black. Only because I'm stubborn and Love the colors. I am going to stay away from CF for now. I don't want to run just yet, I only just learning to walk. I have up 'til now learnt an incredible amount of patience and new ways of doing things. I am becoming more and more daring as I go along. I have become a pro "paint stripper" seeing as though I am going to strip for a third time. I know, I know... It's crazy, but I want it to be just right.

thanks man...

wow again a paintstrip....you should have in your signature saying:

AF's pro paint-stripper

:naughty:

-bas

Yeah, I know. hehe

I think going with the black instead of the carbon is a good idea. Once you get a couple of builds under your belt then you should step off into the realm of customizing. It can be overwhelming to try all of those things at once. It took me 3 trys to get the carbon fiber on my 350Z and even then it didn't turn out prefect. Next time I'll know better what and what not to do. It's better to start off with the basics just to get a grasp on what all goes into these builds. I think this car is going to turn out fantastic!! Especially for a 1st build.


i second that

Ok, I know it's been a while since I posted an updated but I promise that this thread is not dead yet!

Here is the latest on the body color. I hope you guys like it. Just by the way, for those of you that are gona mention that the red looks milky, trust me it is far from that in front of me. I think it's just the camera.

Enjoy!! :D

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http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2314.jpg
http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2315.jpg
http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2318.jpg
http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2326.jpg
http://www.bluesteam.net/images/other/IMG_2327.jpg
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I hope you like it. How am I doing for a newbie?

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Looks like it came out great. Too good to strip, I'm sure! :grinno: Masking like this is deceptively difficult- I'm surprized it came out this well. But why mask off the primer? You could have put the black over the red just fine.

How was the model show?

Model show was really good. Still waiting to get the pics from my friends digital camera so I can post them.

The fact that I masked the primer off is a newbie thing. :loser:

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Paint job is cool.. Good masking. Agree though, you could have just applied the red, then masked and applied the black.. nicely done. Looks good.