240 Petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/240SX05/petition.html

Its a petition for getting the 240SX back.

I signed it, but it doesn't really matter, I mean, if they do bring it back, they'll probably ruin it somehow.

if they brought it back it sure as shit wouldn't be because of some petition. I suggest spending your time more wisely here:

www.TheHun.com

I signed it, but it doesn't really matter, I mean, if they do bring it back, they'll probably ruin it somehow.
yeah they'd continue to produce like 90% with auto transmissions for the women...

fucking broads!! learn to drive a fuckin stick!!!

There's a lot of guys who can't drive stick, it's not just girls. A new 240 will probbaly attract the same crowd of old guys in their midlife crisis that buy all the automatic V6 Mustangs.

if they brought it back, watch them make it a slow FWD, to compete with the tC and civic Si!

Aren't they coming out with a FWD gay car? the Avius or something.

ya some kind of hatchback....

BTW of speaking of new cheap cars....

I had the privelidge to sit in a new Pontiac Solstice the other day. It is a 20k car or so, but in reality it is REALLY nice, looks like a 30k+ car easily. It packs an Ecotec engine in a FR drivetrain style, this year it is availble in manual models only. Next year is talk of a supercharged version and an automatic version as options. It is light and supposed to be a competitor with the Miata, based on a newer chassis design........

This could be the newest new car drifter... I would certainly take one over a 350z or a RX8 from a weight, price, and originality factor. This car could be the turning point for GM, hopefully it catches on good. Pretty much their only performance cars are a Corvette, GTO, CTS-V.... all of which cost a lot more and pack v8's. I wouldn't call the Cobalt SS a sports car, but neither would I call the SRT-4 one.

i think the solstice is funny because nissan did that like 15 years ago...
2.4L, DOHC, RWD, entry level cost.....hmmmm......yup it still take a 240.

solstice is nice but the saturn sky looks way better. kinda like the opel speedster
im #1679 but hesitant because looking over all the sigs of ricers who want TT awd and 2000 different LSD's and to be able to go faster than an STi?

this is why online petitions dont work that often

Who cares about new cars? No matter what they release, I'll still be driving my crappy old Nissan.

Aren't they coming out with a FWD gay car? the Avius or something.
you mean this piece of shit? (http://www.nissanusa.com/content/0,,action-NVersa_topicId-1_pageId-123147,00.html)
its supposed to compete with the scions but i dont think it will last too long :loser:

Who cares about new cars? No matter what they release, I'll still be driving my crappy old Nissan.

werd... cars with 5 catalytic converters, shitload of o2 sensors, intakes that are more congested then I-95 in miami, traction control, no dipsticks, and stuff like Onstar where they can track u and control your vehicle sucks...

I think cars of the 90's were some of the best ever made imho.

I think cars of the 90's were some of the best ever made imho.

:iagree:

Late 80s to late 90s = :ylsuper: :ylsuper: :ylsuper:


And no that's not the one I meant, i meant this car.

http://www.fast-autos.net/nissan/azeal.jpg

that petition is a joke

True dat, no way nissan will listen/read. They got the 350z, rwd , fast, stylish. FWD are safer for less experienced drivers, and in difficult situations, I don't think they will change to rwd. Less space inside, more dangerous in hands of most drivers.

sup TheLogical1, long time no see lol, what happen to you

TheLogikal1 its been a long time man....stick around this time? I hope the GT-R is sick and that there will be a 2007 or even 2008 240sx...

The GT-R will suck. Well the american version, at least.

why do you say that? just because it wont be a stickshift?

sup guys, ive been gone (culinary school) but im back, dunno if ill stick around here too much though

damn culinary school, i've always wanted to try that out. so did you sell your 240?

why do you say that? just because it wont be a stickshift?

It'll have a V8, it won't be manual, it's probably going to be ugly as sin and it'll probably be 90,000$.




Before someone shits on me, V8 isn't a badengine, it just doesn't belong in a factory GT-R.

I've heard somewhere about a 250SX

using a rwd version of the SE-R Spec V motor.

but its all just been articles with no pictures or from a legit source at Nissan.

Im pretty sure that the verdict on the GT-R is a VQ32DETT...as of yet thats the info or conclusion people have made. Why wouldnt it be manual you guys are just crazy....

EDIT:http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3469290
Maybe you guys need to visit the R35 GT-R Forum a little more often.... If thats ugly as sin...then GTFO i guess...jk

It wouldn't be a manual because it's going to be very expensive, and, by looking at other brands, rich people don't like manuals. And sure, that's not ugly, but those sketches r from like 2 years ago.

wahahhaha these people talking about the r35. They dont have a damn clue. Read up before you post plz. Iv noticed its canadians anyways.

no its not gonna be a v8 its gonna be TT V6. most likely 7 speed SMG. and yeah ive heard 70-90K. i dunno i think they will be awesome.

Not stick = LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE

Not stick = LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE

it will actually probably be faster but your stupidity just owns you

nissan making a big mistake by not putting a TT v8 in there. All the big dogs are running v8's these days, and a lot of them have turbos or superchargers. i think with a TT 5.6 that car would really kick everyone's ass and not need excuses like, well if you modified it, it would take out its competition... they are starting out slower and underpowered stock versus things like Merceds AMG55, 600, Audi, BMW m5, z06, Viper, and I must say people who aren't hardcore nissan fans are going to think its a slow pos probably. This isn't 1989, now you need more then 6 cylinders and a stock turbo setup to be competitive with the above average sports cars.

your a boon, no less than 400 hp stock. Tis the rumor, from nissan, not a random ass forum king. No they dont need a v8. Like i said, its the "best" skyline ever made(performance wise). All you looks judgers are just gay.

ok where am I wrong, 400hp.... that is not enough

it will be slow, and you can bet your ass its not going to be less then 3500lbs.

like I said all the big dogs are going beyond 400hp, and for 90 grand its really going to be f'n slow. A base model c6 corvette with a LS2 will probably be faster, I hear the new M3 is going to be v8 based also, the M5 has 500hp now. There are a lot of Mercedes with 500-600hp from the factory. Vipers have 500hp, Z06 has 500hp... all these cars are going to straight up own the new GTR man, all while being in the same ballpark of price or actually being cheaper.

I stand by this statement, they need a bigger more powerful enging in the GTR, I don't care if its better then the older one and has 120 more horsepower, a flagship sports car with 400hp won't be that competitive against today's standards.

Your V8 Biased comments arent really whats needed around here. Youre thinking that only a V8 can push power. Please get off your LT-1 or LS trip. I would take a car that can out handle and own you on the track. Stock C6 vs Stock GT-R..sorry to say but your 500hp RWD isnt gonna be able to touch the GT-Rs 3.2L V6 TT w/ AWD and AWS on anything that has a turn. The GT-R legacy isnt all about pushing crazy horsepower. Its about building a foundation that has the potential or it has seemed in the past generations of the GT-R. Also Ive heard people talking about how the C6 gearing is so retarded that its a horrible Daily Driver.

dude get the fuck out of our nissan forum we like our nissans we have faith in them we think it will be cool we will see when it comes out this is just useless speculation on what it will beat and what it wont beat. and i dont think it will even go to 90K so that puts it cheaper than any AMG benz, and the M5, and what i have seen is 450 HP and 4 wheel drive, so i think it MIGHT BE FAILRY COMPETITIVE. if the setup is done right the 50 hp wont matter for shit. like you fucking know all this cars weaknesses before it even comes out.... and you might have to pay 90k to get one but that is the highest number i have seen qutoed so i doubt MSRP will be all the way up there.

if you like Nissans they why the fuck are you against NISSAN V8's? is there just something about v8 that gets at you? lol

They need to put the f'n Titan 5.6 motor with turbos in it... that would put it on another level then the v6....thats all Im saying. Its not going to be THAT fast compared to some other cars that cost way less.... I don't think it will sell a lot personally.

im not saying a vk56dett wouldnt be raw as fuck but i think they are going to be able to get plenty of power out of the motor they chose. and the car would probably cost even more if they went with the 5.6 TT. and you are right i bet the C6 Z06 will be slightly faster times but maybe just for drag we will have to see about lap times on the track.

and secondly maybe some people like the idea of nissan sticking to developing 6 cylinders for racing more rather than doing V8's which, as you say, seem to be getting more popular. yes its different but you will have to accept that fact. if you have such a big problem with it why dont you call up Carlos G. and complain

They need to put the f'n Titan 5.6 motor with turbos in it...


Jesus that would be awsome... Even the VK56 with Big Cams and Opened up for Sports Use would make me shit my pants.



As for beating the Z06 around a track... prolly not... the Z06 is a track slut. I think the new GT-R is supposed to be more of a M3, Mercedes, Aston Martin Grand Tourer stock. But with big tire and maybe some boltons it should be able to keepup / beat the Z06.

Putting anything but a straight 6 would be shitting on the Skyline legend, but anyone in the new car business couldn't give less of a shit about that, so whatever....and if you want 500hp stock, buy a Viper.

Putting anything but a straight 6 would be shitting on the Skyline legend.


Yeah, but so would letting the skyline fall behind the pack in terms of speed.

the 2000GT-R laid down the law on Porsches back in the day. the R32 laid so much pwnage down that FIA made a new class for it. The R34 was Relatively slow stock for how minimalist it was.

Id rather the new GTR lay the smack down with a VK56 or VQ than have to fall back on "Heritage" everytime I get beat down by an Aston or Porsche.

Nissan is also producing a Sports truck so I wouldnt doubt it if the GT-Rs engine doesnt end up in that Truck.

Yeah, but so would letting the skyline fall behind the pack in terms of speed.

the 2000GT-R laid down the law on Porsches back in the day. the R32 laid so much pwnage down that FIA made a new class for it. The R34 was Relatively slow stock for how minimalist it was.

Id rather the new GTR lay the smack down with a VK56 or VQ than have to fall back on "Heritage" everytime I get beat down by an Aston or Porsche.

Good point, but I hope to god it's a real manual.

signed!

I don’t see a RWD 240 coming back, I mean forget convincing Nissan I’ve had arguments on this website where 70% of the people thought FWD was just as good as RWD and if you wanted to drift all you have to do is pull the E-brake.

The petition isn’t going to do anything. The only thing that will convince Nissan to bring back the 240 is a shift in demand for RWD cars. If you want the 240 to come back find a new RWD car that you like (like the Solstice) and buy it, when Nissan see it’s competition making money of RWD cars that will convince Nissan to bring back the 240.

Vote with your wallet, not some stupid internet petition.

I don’t see a RWD 240 coming back, I mean forget convincing Nissan I’ve had arguments on this website where 70% of the people thought FWD was just as good as RWD and if you wanted to drift all you have to do is pull the E-brake.

The petition isn’t going to do anything. The only thing that will convince Nissan to bring back the 240 is a shift in demand for RWD cars. If you want the 240 to come back find a new RWD car that you like (like the Solstice) and buy it, when Nissan see it’s competition making money of RWD cars that will convince Nissan to bring back the 240.

Vote with your wallet, not some stupid internet petition.

you bring up good points man, especially about buying new RWD cars, what if all the sudden people just started buying shitloads of RWD cars and hardly any FWD cars.... they would make more RWD cars for sure.

Im telling you, the next company that comes out with a good cheap RWD car with aftermarket support might be the next Honda for the later 2000's and 20010's. The only cheap RWD sports car is the solstice, hopefully it is good. I can only see the performance market going more and more to RWD cars in the next 5 years. All the magazines are covering more of it, tv shows are more and more into drifting, hell even the old guys mention it, and there are a lot more drifting competitions now, which should continue to grow.

Every car company needs to offer some sort of halfway spirited RWD sports car for under 20k to cover emerging markets. For instance, if the S15 silvia was sold here new right now for 20 grand, that car would probably be the best selling car during these years. Instead those potential car buyers are shown Focus', Civic's, SE-R's, SRT-4's... u get the idea. A lot of people who COULD buy a new car would rather stick with a used car they don't sell anymore that they like better for their price range, or they get the shit end of the stick and settle for that new car smell.

The only cheap RWD sports car is the solstice, hopefully it is good.
The Solstice out performs the 240SX in every way. The only problem with the Solstice is it’s not as practical as the 240, the Solstice only has 3.8 cu, ft, of cargo space wall the 240 has 8.6 and of course the Solstice doesn’t have a back seat. There is another option for $20,000. The V6 Mustang, it weighs about 500 lbs more then the 240 so it doesn’t handle as good, but it is faster and has a much bigger back seat and trunk.

The Solstice out performs the 240SX in every way. The only problem with the Solstice is it’s not as practical as the 240, the Solstice only has 3.8 cu, ft, of cargo space wall the 240 has 8.6 and of course the Solstice doesn’t have a back seat. There is another option for $20,000. The V6 Mustang, it weighs about 500 lbs more then the 240 so it doesn’t handle as good, but it is faster and has a much bigger back seat and trunk.

the sky is way sexier than the semi-fugly solstice

the v6 mustang is only faster in a straight line, and only stock for stock, and not a huge amount. the mustang isnt even in the same league, no fuck that not even in the same SPORT as far as handling goes. also, the ka is better to mod than the gay taurus v6 in the stang. oh and the speed limiter at 115 on the stang is soooooooo gay, so actually they are the same speed cars :smokin:

The new Mustang V6 is based on the V6 Ford uses in there trucks. It has 210 hp and 240 lb-ft of torque and that is a lot more power then a stock 240 (155 hp 160 lb-ft). I believe it’s 2-3 sec fester 0-60 then the 240.

The new Mustang V6 is based on the V6 Ford uses in there trucks. It has 210 hp and 240 lb-ft of torque and that is a lot more power then a stock 240 (155 hp 160 lb-ft). I believe it’s 2-3 sec fester 0-60 then the 240.

KA-T = cheaper than stang = faster than stang

my 1989 SOHC will dust a new stang on a road course, twisty road, autox course, anything that you have to use the steering wheel on.

2-3 seconds faster 0-60??? thats huge... i kinda doubt that. even though the 240 was gimped so bad in the US, its not THAT bad.

KA-T = cheaper than stang = faster than stang
I’m not saying a new Mustang is a better “bang for the buck” then a used 240, I’m just saying that if someone wants a affordable new RWD car the V6 mustang is worth a look.

2-3 seconds faster 0-60??? thats huge... i kinda doubt that. even though the 240 was gimped so bad in the US, its not THAT bad.
Well the auto V6 Mustang runs 0-60 in 6.9: link (http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=16&article_id=9028&page_number=2) And the last auto 240 ran 0-60 in a little over 9 sec right?

who gives a crap about the auto??

who gives a crap about the auto??
I'm using the auto numbers because I couldn't find the 0-60 time for the manual V6 Mustang. So I’m comparing auto vs auto.

Why are we comparing the 240 to something as pitiful as the v6 mustang??? That is a definite NO-NO

lilskyline

Why are we comparing the 240 to something as pitiful as the v6 mustang???
Because it and the Solstice are the only affordable RWD cars on the market. The only other RWD option in that price range is a small or mid-size pickup with a sport suspension package and I’m pretty shore the Mustang out handles any pickup out there.

Because it and the Solstice are the only affordable RWD cars on the market. The only other RWD option in that price range is a small or mid-size pickup with a sport suspension package and I’m pretty shore the Mustang out handles any pickup out there.

What ever happened to using the cars of the 90's....they outperform the new cars.....Thats why they need to bring back the 240...or somethign else that is RWD....besides the solstice and v6 mustang....

lilskyline240
Go back and look at my fist post. If people keep buying used RWD cars Nissan is never going to build a affordable new RWD car because they won’t see any demand for one.

Nissan has to see that there are people willing to put there money where there mouth is.

lilskyline240
Go back and look at my fist post. If people keep buying used RWD cars Nissan is never going to build a affordable new RWD car because they won’t see any demand for one.

Nissan has to see that there are people willing to put there money where there mouth is.

good point...i wish they would come out with a new RWD car...but it seems like they forgot about us....i would for sure buy a new RWD nissan...other than the 350z....too bulky..

i dont know i love the 350 but i guess to each his own, and price tag is little more than i can afford at this point

i dont know i love the 350 but i guess to each his own, and price tag is little more than i can afford at this point

That is also a reason i didtn pick one up...i would love to twin turbo a 350z but....not enough $$$....