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Does this sound BELIEVABLE?


crabby760
10-05-2005, 05:51 PM
my friend has a 96 integra ls with a jdm 94 b16a motor with a ls tranny it has a intake and a race header... stock exhaust... has a mugen chip ecu also a vafc 2 street tuned... fuel pressure regulator excedy race cluch with a 8 lb flywheel...

he said on street tires in the 1/8 mile he ran 9.6 all day... between 9.6 and 9.7's.... all day

does that sound rite?

civicHBsi91
10-05-2005, 06:42 PM
Do you know the 60' or mph?

9.6's should be good for around a 14.9...I mean if he had a strong motor and the car was gutted I could see those times being somewhat believable.

crv-tec
10-05-2005, 07:40 PM
if 9.6 breaks down to a 14.9, its defintly possible, the best my car got to was 14.6 with the b16 SiRII on a lightened flywheel, clutch, i/h/e, in a 89 HF. Street tires too.

SiGNAL748
10-05-2005, 08:41 PM
I would assume his 1/8th trap is in the mid-low 60's.

civicHBsi91
10-05-2005, 11:42 PM
see now if he had the ls he would have went faster :P

SiGNAL748
10-06-2005, 03:52 PM
or an h22.

tomsindahizouse
10-06-2005, 08:57 PM
Nobody has answered his question....

NO, IT DOES NOT SOUND BELIEVABLE.

civicHBsi91
10-06-2005, 10:20 PM
its not that far fetched, its believable, unlikely but its not like its impossible.

big red 2
10-17-2005, 05:57 PM
Hi guys , new to this forum so please bear with me.
I have just come back from Santa Pod in the UK after setting a new club record for the Honda S800 of 16.94sec. what I would like to know is if you know of anyone with a faster time in the USA

giddyup50
10-19-2005, 10:54 PM
Hey guys, a mid to high 9 sec. run in the 1/8 does = mid to high 14sec. I always heard to add about 5 seconds to an 1/8mile time to guesstamate your 1/4mile time. Obviously by my name, I'm a Mustang guy, and I don't know anything about Hondas, but in a mostly stock 89 Mustang 5.0-Auto notchback my 1/8 mile speed was around 85-90mph. Even though I'm a Ford guy I think it's cool to take whatever you have and make it faster but the 1/8 and 1/4mile times some of you guys are running with mods are ALMOST as fast as a stock 87-93 5.0 and most are still slower. From what I've seen it takes alot more money to make an import as fast as a stock Mustang. Don't get me wrong, like I said before, it's cool to take whatever you have and give it more hp. I just can't see spending all the money and still running in the high 14second range. Although you guys get better gas mileage, and with FWD you can drive in the winter. Hell I'm even trying to hop up my 97 Taurus DOHC 24V (stock 200hp/200tq). QUIT LAUGHING, YEAH I SAID TAURUS, HEY MAN, I SAID QUIT LAUGHING! Although I'm not haveing much luck on finding performance parts for a Taurus. Now, I do know that there are other imports out there like 350Z, Supras, etc...etc...that would probably spank a Mustang...however look at how much they cost compared to the Mustang. I also know that some of you are running 12's,13's, but it takes alot more money in an import than in a Mustang or Z28 or T.A. Not doggin you guys just trying to see your side of the story...I'm tryin to open my mind a little.....and believe me it hurts. THANKS GUYS.....SORRY FOR THE BOOK I WROTE

pedal_pusher_sh
10-21-2005, 11:03 AM
yeah that sounds about right. its only 1/8th of a mile add 5 seconds to that 9.6 or 9.7 and thats what you would run on a quarter mile. my boyfriend runs about 9.6's also, and he has a 96 gsr. but my cousins boyfriend runs LOW 7's or high 6's but hes turbo and what not. but yeah that sounds just right.

nick bamberger
10-21-2005, 09:15 PM
giddyup50--
You also should take a look at the reliability, and a stock mustang's handling cant even compete with a honda. You could start out with a mustang...a faster car, and put money into suspension, and do alot of maintenance, or start out with a perfect handling honda, an already reliable car and make it fast. And as long as you modify correctly, reliablility will still not be an issue.
Its personal preference, is all it is. Personally, if I was to choose between one and another, I would choose the honda/acura.

giddyup50
10-21-2005, 09:58 PM
nick--
I see where you're coming from...however, a Mustang is very reliable. The 5.0 is bullet proof, it can take a ton of abuse, and never break or leak. The 4.6 is the same but the bottom end of the 4.6 is even stronger than the 5.0. I've had two 5.0's an 89 and 92. I never went too crazy w/ the mods just bolt-ons...exhaust, pulleys, filter, all the basics. Many of my friends did more than I did and still never had any problems with their 5.0's. One guy I know had an 04 4.6, and the same thing with his, no problems.
I don't know about the handling of the two cars. I know it got better in the Mustangs in 94 w/ better brakes and suspension but the 87-93 Mustangs were smaller and lighter than 94 and up. Not to mention the aftermarket for the Mustang, you have to admit that the Mustang is king of the aftermarket. And because of that, and I've also noticed prices myself for both Mustangs and Hondas, the Mustangs parts cost less. Anyway, I do agree the Honda does have a weight advantage atleast in 94 and up Mustangs.
So I guess it all depends on what you want to do. If you want to buy a fast car w/ decent handling stock, then buy a Mustang. If you want to buy a slow car w/ good handling stock, and spend a ton of $$ just to barely keep up w/ a Stang or Z28, then buy an import.
SORRY ABOUT THAT LAST PARAGRAPH, I HAD TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME CRAP.
I do agree, It's all about preference!!!

siege911
10-26-2005, 11:44 PM
how 'bout getting back on topic...

I can see it happening... street tuned you say?

crabby760
10-27-2005, 12:28 AM
it had... intake/header... stock ehxaust..... vafc and mugen ecu... fuel pressure reg... ls tranny with 8lb flywheel and exedity clutch...


it was tuned with vafc on the street yes....


and he says he ran a 9.6 1/8th mile on 15 inch si rims with street tires...

i now have a added skunk 2 striaght pipe with greddy evo 2 exhaust system...

on 15 inch gsr blades...

just got a p28 ecu that is socketed with the plug in for the lab top... and my friend is going to take me out and street tune it with chrome program...

shit if he did run a 9.6 i'm sure i can pull 9.2 or 9.1's...?

kugstrand18
10-27-2005, 01:18 PM
omg lol take a integra ls/vtec, gsr, ls even if u want and turbo any of them the right way and u will not have many problems with the stangs and camaros i promise lol.

giddyup50
10-28-2005, 07:20 PM
Hey Krugstand 18, what hp and tq ratings would you get with that combo? Also, what mph and et would you get in the 1/4mile? Thanks.

eurobeaner
10-30-2005, 10:38 PM
ok... heres some things some people dont get... you take a stock mustang with 300hp or less (stock 5.0) and a 120hp civic and run em, YES, the stang will win every time... BUT! if you were to have a 200 hp civic, it would not only keep up, but probibly out run a mustang.... our gears are closer, higher powerband, vtec (no im not glorifying the vtec).... when your shifting into second were just gettin to 6-7g in 1st gear.... we bang second, and are still at 5500...

yes you do have a CRAP TON of torque, at a LOW rpm... so for some reason in a race with a 300hp mustang and a 300 hp civic/teg, the civic would easily beat a mustang HANDS DOWN

YES my car is slow, 16.3 in 1/4 mile.... 1.6liter...you got a 5.0... look at it this way, you have 2 TWO LITER BOTTLES OF COKE MORE THAN ALL OF US.... what do you expect?

btw... what do you run in the 1/4 mile?

stephens800
11-16-2005, 03:56 PM
Hi guys , new to this forum so please bear with me.
I have just come back from Santa Pod in the UK after setting a new club record for the Honda S800 of 16.94sec. what I would like to know is if you know of anyone with a faster time in the USA

Is it standard or modified?

For comparison, some 1/4 mile times from Castlereagh speedway near Sydney NSW Australia: Stock standard S600, 20.0 (1971), stock standard S800, also recorded in 1971, 18.37, modified S800 15.38, (1974). This last car may have been bored out to iether 845 cc or 900 cc, not sure which. This particular fellow's 900cc engines were very quick but did not last very well!

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