Takeoff Question
3SBlkStreak
10-04-2005, 07:57 PM
When im taking of really quick my car pulls to the left real bad, i was just wondering if that was just a front wheel drive thing and if there is anything i can do to reduce the pull. I have a 98 3000 SL.
Linebckr49
10-04-2005, 08:07 PM
check your alignment.
Stealthee
10-04-2005, 08:10 PM
LOL its called torque steer.
3SBlkStreak
10-04-2005, 08:13 PM
alignment is perfect! So thats normal? Is there anything i can do to make it not do that
talskinyguy
10-04-2005, 08:20 PM
Get an LSD
Twizted_3KGT
10-04-2005, 09:04 PM
My SL used to do that when it was an automatic. Haven't had that problem since I switched to 5-speed. So if you have an automatic you could switch to 5-speed I guess?
Unless I got lucky and got an LSD'd tranny off Ebay...can I tell by which way the tires spin when its in the air in neutral?
Unless I got lucky and got an LSD'd tranny off Ebay...can I tell by which way the tires spin when its in the air in neutral?
Stealthee
10-04-2005, 09:16 PM
If you drop the clutch and both tires light up in smoke then you got a LSD. If you get the one wheel peel you have an open diff.
mxrider4ac
10-04-2005, 09:19 PM
its just torque steer
Twizted_3KGT
10-04-2005, 09:19 PM
omg are u serious? that's so sweet, I got LSD then. That is if ur right.
Beef66
10-04-2005, 09:51 PM
im thinking torque steer...we all get it...well fwd that is
TMD
10-04-2005, 11:44 PM
I only get it when the tires ride up on the grooves made in the road.
TMD
TMD
mxrider4ac
10-05-2005, 12:08 AM
its just from the power going to the front tires. it makes them wanna turn. learn to control it good though. when i first got my stealth i was used to rear wheel drive vehicles and i ran out of my lane several times because of the torque steer, that is until i got used to it.
3SBlkStreak
10-05-2005, 10:38 AM
yeah i have LSD cause when i burn 'em the smoke flies. i was just wondering i just bought it 3 weeks ago and it's my first front wheel drive.
Mikelb
10-05-2005, 02:15 PM
I don't have an LSD, but both wheels will lay rubber... at least for a couple of seconds... then one takes over... I usually leave burn marks... two, but one is just longer... then again... my tranny has been scorched...
Linebckr49
10-05-2005, 02:34 PM
i've just put my LSD insert in my tranny. when i find time to put the tranny back in the car, i'll definitely take it to the street and light up the tires. i'm confident it will greatly improve traction and handling...especially around corners!
mxrider4ac
10-05-2005, 02:40 PM
how are you guys burning out....pulling the e-brake and gettin on it? back when i was stupid about cars i would rev my stealth up to about 4 grand and dump the clutch...didnt take me long to burn that clutch up though. needless to say i dont do that anymore.
Mikelb
10-05-2005, 02:53 PM
gun the gas... I don't launch from anything other than idle... I'm afraid of cooking my clutch... gotta keep the car in the torque range... the e-brake does help... depends on how long you wanna hold the burnout... don't go any higher than 2nd gear... foot in the floor all the way is not always best... I constantly adjust accelerator... enough to keep the tires smoking... but not to max out... raise it up and drop a little... don't keep at redline... especially if you haven't changed oil, taken care of car, etc...
mxrider4ac
10-06-2005, 12:09 AM
you prob. are also pushin more hp in yours than i am in mine. i've got to get stronger clutch. i was thinking about going with a stage 2 and a fidanza flywheel. i was thinking about a stage 3 for a while but i think that would be kinda overkill considerin i'm only pushin about 250 hp in my stealth right now.
Stealthee
10-06-2005, 12:15 AM
you prob. are also pushin more hp in yours than i am in mine. i've got to get stronger clutch. i was thinking about going with a stage 2 and a fidanza flywheel. i was thinking about a stage 3 for a while but i think that would be kinda overkill considerin i'm only pushin about 250 hp in my stealth right now.
You're kidding right? You may be just now pushing 220 crank power, and thats pushing it. The DOHC's really are only at like 210hp. Your mods may add a grand total of 10hp. NO ONE really needs a 6 puck till you start making huge power. I got a ACT full face that would even work if I did a 10:1 TT swap. Its got plenty of holding power.
You're kidding right? You may be just now pushing 220 crank power, and thats pushing it. The DOHC's really are only at like 210hp. Your mods may add a grand total of 10hp. NO ONE really needs a 6 puck till you start making huge power. I got a ACT full face that would even work if I did a 10:1 TT swap. Its got plenty of holding power.
Linebckr49
10-06-2005, 12:30 AM
ya, listen the Stealthee.
you don't need a stage 2 clutch. the stocker is fine. adn your mods, as said, might give you 10hp...at the crank. and given about 210 crank hp stock, say 220hp MAX at the crank...when you think of effective horsepower (horespower to the wheels), it would be around 170-185hp (20%-30% drivetrain loss).
so you can spend a butt-load of money on upgrades that won't give you anything just b/c it sounds cool to say you have a stage 3/ stage 2 clutch...but just think about it first. think practically.
you don't need a stage 2 clutch. the stocker is fine. adn your mods, as said, might give you 10hp...at the crank. and given about 210 crank hp stock, say 220hp MAX at the crank...when you think of effective horsepower (horespower to the wheels), it would be around 170-185hp (20%-30% drivetrain loss).
so you can spend a butt-load of money on upgrades that won't give you anything just b/c it sounds cool to say you have a stage 3/ stage 2 clutch...but just think about it first. think practically.
Stealthee
10-06-2005, 02:27 AM
Not only do you not need a 6 puck, alot of people dont want a 6 puck. Especially if they do a lot of city driving. You'll burn one up fast as hell if you try to slip it like a full face. I really didnt NEED the clutch I got, but I wasnt putting in some crappy Advance Auto clutch, I have seen what happens to them. And I wasnt waiting to order one from Mitsu. I got a good friend a sale, got the clutch in 2 days, and got myself a nice feeling clutch pedal. But it just figured, the clutch went from a very small slip one day, to a full out slip in 3rd gear going up a hill the day I got my tax refund back. Damn car knew I got money and was jealous. :p
Mikelb
10-06-2005, 08:47 AM
How a/b mine, I've got a SOHC, intake, exhaust, and soon to have turbo... should I keep stock clutch, or when having tranny rebuilt get a stage2... b/c I'm gonna throw the Fidanza lightweight flywheel in there... and I am actually running enough hp to walk the DOHC (when my transmission works)...
Stealthee
10-06-2005, 09:11 AM
How a/b mine, I've got a SOHC, intake, exhaust, and soon to have turbo... should I keep stock clutch, or when having tranny rebuilt get a stage2... b/c I'm gonna throw the Fidanza lightweight flywheel in there... and I am actually running enough hp to walk the DOHC (when my transmission works)...
Listen. I've got a decently modded SOHC and I am not "walking" DOHC's. I have beat personally a few DOHC ATX's in the quarter. My times have beat alot that I havent raced. But with the power difference once speeds hit 90+ the DOHC is gonna pass the SOHC. Its a fact of better flowing heads and different power bands.
Now as for the clutch you still only want a full face. Like I said I am running a ACT. It can hold 400ft lbs of torque. There is a kid with a DOHC 10:1 TT with DR500's and he has the same clutch upon reccomendations. SO I dont think the SOHC is going to putting a hurting on that clutch.;) :p
Listen. I've got a decently modded SOHC and I am not "walking" DOHC's. I have beat personally a few DOHC ATX's in the quarter. My times have beat alot that I havent raced. But with the power difference once speeds hit 90+ the DOHC is gonna pass the SOHC. Its a fact of better flowing heads and different power bands.
Now as for the clutch you still only want a full face. Like I said I am running a ACT. It can hold 400ft lbs of torque. There is a kid with a DOHC 10:1 TT with DR500's and he has the same clutch upon reccomendations. SO I dont think the SOHC is going to putting a hurting on that clutch.;) :p
Mikelb
10-06-2005, 09:16 AM
oh yeah, I'm talking a/b off the line... usually a/b a quarter... I'm walking the DOHC, it's not usually until right at the finish that they start catching back up... when I got the car, it had a stage 3 racing clutch in it... I b/c it was ACT... I don't really recall, then the damn master cylinder went out and fried that clutch... so now I have a LUK repset in it (a stock with maybe a little more holding power)
Stealthee
10-06-2005, 09:33 AM
OK, I just wanted to clarify. Usually "walking" is what happens in a roll race.
Mikelb
10-06-2005, 09:35 AM
no I can usually take them then too... for a bit... It's not hard for me to mess with the stock SL's... but if they add a couple of mods on, then I can't usually do nothing to them...
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