Wont start on first turn
icemike89
10-03-2005, 11:40 PM
I just got the car and it wouldnt start when I first turn the key.Not every time,but it did it a few times. I need to get gas,lol, but I think I might not be getting enough spark or it might need a new starter(i hope not, i just got the damn thing!)
xeroinfinity
10-05-2005, 09:21 PM
you still having trouble with not starting icemike? If you r could you be more specific. Just a few questions. Is it not doing anything(ded no lights come on) or is it just not turning when the keys turned?
icemike89
10-06-2005, 02:47 PM
Yep,except now it does it all the time. Whenever I turn the key I have to give it gas. I found out more and someone said it might have a bad idle because of the throttle position sensor might be f-d up,or might be a fuel problem.(Cant hold pressure?)Im not surewhat it is. I heard its pretty common with grandams with higher mileage.But my lights work fine.
Ridenour
10-06-2005, 04:19 PM
I think you were right with the "can't hold pressure" thing. It sounds like you have a bad fuel pressure regulator. How many miles?
icemike89
10-07-2005, 11:23 PM
It has 119,000. It seems to run fine after it starts
richtazz
10-08-2005, 09:43 AM
I agree that it sounds like a fuel pressure regulator problem. Get your hands on a fuel pressure tester (I believe Auto-Zone offers it in their free tool loan program). You should have 41-45 psi at the schrader valve key on/ engine off.
Gir-_-
10-11-2005, 10:34 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have this same problem..
I am new to the forums *never posted, just reads* :)
Umm.. car info.
99' grand am se
around 148k miles? *I know -_- lots* Runs Great *thumbs up*
Anyways, yea... it idles around 650 in park no AC
I figured it was my driveway being slightly a ramp (ie. no fuel to be where it exactly needs to be) but I've noticed the problem elsewhere, 3 tries recently *untill I gas'd it* it wouldnt start
I have this same problem..
I am new to the forums *never posted, just reads* :)
Umm.. car info.
99' grand am se
around 148k miles? *I know -_- lots* Runs Great *thumbs up*
Anyways, yea... it idles around 650 in park no AC
I figured it was my driveway being slightly a ramp (ie. no fuel to be where it exactly needs to be) but I've noticed the problem elsewhere, 3 tries recently *untill I gas'd it* it wouldnt start
Mr. Luos
10-11-2005, 10:43 PM
I was having some rough starting issues with my 2001 GT.
Changed the plugs from some cheapys to ACDelco's. Problem solved.
Bad spark can easily cause starting issues.
But like mentioned above, don't rule out fueling.
Changed the plugs from some cheapys to ACDelco's. Problem solved.
Bad spark can easily cause starting issues.
But like mentioned above, don't rule out fueling.
Gir-_-
10-11-2005, 10:49 PM
I was having some rough starting issues with my 2001 GT.
Changed the plugs from some cheapys to ACDelco's. Problem solved.
Bad spark can easily cause starting issues.
But like mentioned above, don't rule out fueling.
I see...
I've been meaning to get the plugs/wires replaced, just havent had the money... Soon though.
Changed the plugs from some cheapys to ACDelco's. Problem solved.
Bad spark can easily cause starting issues.
But like mentioned above, don't rule out fueling.
I see...
I've been meaning to get the plugs/wires replaced, just havent had the money... Soon though.
icemike89
10-12-2005, 12:44 AM
I just got new plugs-Bosch platinums
Gir-_-
10-12-2005, 09:17 AM
Fix?
icemike89
10-12-2005, 05:52 PM
No the plugs didnt solve it, but it seems to be running a little better.
Mr. Luos
10-12-2005, 06:36 PM
You got the wrong plugs. :lol:
I had the Bosch....ran like crap. Wouldn't start all the time.
Went back to the Delco stockers. Much better.
I had the Bosch....ran like crap. Wouldn't start all the time.
Went back to the Delco stockers. Much better.
icemike89
10-12-2005, 09:28 PM
You got the wrong plugs. :lol:
I had the Bosch....ran like crap. Wouldn't start all the time.
Went back to the Delco stockers. Much better.
I def. like the bosch better than the others.Its not the plugs causing the problem,it's been doing this before I got new plugs.
I had the Bosch....ran like crap. Wouldn't start all the time.
Went back to the Delco stockers. Much better.
I def. like the bosch better than the others.Its not the plugs causing the problem,it's been doing this before I got new plugs.
xeroinfinity
10-12-2005, 09:48 PM
bosh plugs work great for 10-20k miles. then the electrode starts to fall (probley exsessive heat), making the gap smaller, making it run like shit.
On a carb motor they(bosh) seem to be fine, but not with MFI. From what I've seen anyway. My 76' 442 has them, starts perfect. Had some in my 99' GA and they fouled out with in a couple months and changing the plugs twice with in months sucks!
But if the new plugs dont make it start right off hav the fuel pressure checked . Get the TPS checked out, it maybe on the fritz, but no car will always start right up first click every time.
On a carb motor they(bosh) seem to be fine, but not with MFI. From what I've seen anyway. My 76' 442 has them, starts perfect. Had some in my 99' GA and they fouled out with in a couple months and changing the plugs twice with in months sucks!
But if the new plugs dont make it start right off hav the fuel pressure checked . Get the TPS checked out, it maybe on the fritz, but no car will always start right up first click every time.
icemike89
10-12-2005, 10:35 PM
Its not like it does it all the time, but prob about 50/50,and I dont think its the tps. Its prob a fuel prob, but Im not greatly concerned because it runs fine. Its the damn belt that bothers me when it squeaks,which also is about %50 of the time.
xeroinfinity
10-13-2005, 10:49 AM
i see. I had a bend crank pully(which i hav no idea how it got bent) so I replaced it with an aluminum pully ,which was cheaper, and It squeaked pretty good. Tried belt dressing but it still squeaked. Finally did quit though.
icemike89
10-13-2005, 12:48 PM
xero,you said it squeaked after you put in the lighter pulley?Because I was thinking about getting an FFP soon.Also,what about the gatorback belt, I heard that only makes it even louder?
xeroinfinity
10-13-2005, 08:22 PM
the FFP might be better than the one I hav. the one I've got is just a tad smaller than stock, so it squeak'd and churped like krazy.
I scuffed up the surface on the pully and put in a Gator Belt and alls been good and quiet. I was affraid slipping could cause the belt to jump off or break, either one would suck when your on the road.
I scuffed up the surface on the pully and put in a Gator Belt and alls been good and quiet. I was affraid slipping could cause the belt to jump off or break, either one would suck when your on the road.
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