Good Subs For $130? Is It Possible?

i was looking at TWO AUDIOBAHN AW1251T 12" SUBWOOFERS + BANDPASS SUB BOX, VISONIK AMPLIFIER +2x10" SUBWOOFERS + BOX 800W Free S&H, both go at 400 RMS...wats the better deal? im lookin at them on ebay...anyway do u guys kno any good subs for 130

I havent had any good experiences with audiobahn and visonik isnt known for quality.

You get what you pay for but for under 400 bucks for the whole setup you might be in for problems.

Audiobahn sucks unless you get the immortals or externals and they are overpriced and theres still better stuff than that. Visonik the same. That and all in one kits are POS. This sub only cost about 100 and not only would it destroy the brands your looking at these would actually sound good. Audiobahn sounds like someone farting in a pvc pipe and then having it amplified in other words shitty.

http://www.ascendantaudio.com/archive/Atlas%2012.htm

Dont buy a sub just because its power rating is insane this sub will outperform most mainstream shit with only 300watts and it doesnt need a big box.

Look at this list look more into the good and highly recommended lists.
http://myweb.cableone.net/grogers/abr.html

One thing ive learned is dont waste money on something cheap look into whats out there and people recommend youl be better off in the long run. And oh yeah if your looking nothing but bass than i can show you some stuff thats good buts its not exactly 130. Theres a few other brands with subs under 130.

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I got 2 Cadence 12" competition Subs off ebay for 129.99 (for both incl. shipping).
$100 Bucks for a box
I forgot how much for amp but was like 150-200 for a jbl 600.1

Cheap subs break and burn, as do the amps, plus they sound like someone farting on a hardwood floor.

Was a good setup, sold to my brother, good Bass.
I Reccomend the JBL amps for cheap, good power.

Oh yeah and if your gonna have big bass, expect big time rattles.
Invest in some sound deadening, ie dynamat.
Those rattle will drive you nuts after a while. Good bass + Lots of rattles = :swear:

15" type r would prolly pwn all in that price range.

but if you cant afford to power it (which it sounds liek you cant), then a 15" comp VR would be loud too with 4-500 rms.

my best advice for you is to save your moeny. you have no idea how many times youll change your setup (aka HUGE waste of money) if you buy somethin mediocre or worse first.

Hell he could get an atlas 15 push about 400 to it and it would be just as good as a type r. You could also look into lower line RE subs, www.reaudio.com.

welll.. its kinda hard to find one since they dont sell em. check classified ads everywhere though and im sure you can find one.. and i highly doubt an atlas can match type r spl... actually ill say it cant. but dont get me wrong if it was up to SQ id choose an atlas before an R in a heartbeat.

and i think an atlas would def do better on 400rms for sure.

but yeah to the orig. poster if you can fit a 15 then thats your best bet. with a super tight budget 15s are the way to go cause theyre not a whole lot more than 12s but hae almost double the cone area

With the righ setup you can make a 10 hit as hard as a 15 granted i wont last lon or sound all that great but it can be done. BUt il agree with you yeah the atlas is geared towards sq which might not be what ricerkid is after. Thats the only thing i dont like about alpine subs is that there made more for spl than sq and well any sub cn achieve a certain level of spl but the thing is can that same sub sound good while doing it. when i say sound good i meen no distortion and subs can distort, when you can hear something other than bass i cant stand systems you can hear from a mile away and when they get up on you you cant understand a single lyric or musical note other than the bass and 9 times out 10 sounds like complete shit. If he wants straight up bass then hes not getting something that can outperform most of the other subs for less than 250,you can get subs cheaper that can make tons of bass but they usually sound like shit but i mean good sounding loud bass.

atlases are sold out, and the B-stock lost is out the window in length... used one..sure. look at th FS sections of forums which have a lot of popularity with ascendant. likely to find a blown one, recone is $45+ Shipping i beleive.

He could always look into the incriminator 187's only 139 for a 12 and ive heard good things about ar far as bass. Either that or a set of RE subs not sure on prices except for the xxx but im waiting to see the price for the new ones when its available.

8's shipped to me are $40...that is all i know because that is all ive ever asked for a quote on.

$40 for an 8" shipped to you? Are you talking about RE or Incriminator?

How much for a 10"?

JL audio W3v2 are nice :D

With the righ setup you can make a 10 hit as hard as a 15 granted i wont last lon or sound all that great but it can be done. BUt il agree with you yeah the atlas is geared towards sq which might not be what ricerkid is after. Thats the only thing i dont like about alpine subs is that there made more for spl than sq and well any sub cn achieve a certain level of spl but the thing is can that same sub sound good while doing it. when i say sound good i meen no distortion and subs can distort, when you can hear something other than bass i cant stand systems you can hear from a mile away and when they get up on you you cant understand a single lyric or musical note other than the bass and 9 times out 10 sounds like complete shit. If he wants straight up bass then hes not getting something that can outperform most of the other subs for less than 250,you can get subs cheaper that can make tons of bass but they usually sound like shit but i mean good sounding loud bass.


what do you mean spl and sq? im pretty new to subs and all. wat do u mena hit as hard as 15?

what do you mean spl and sq? im pretty new to subs and all. wat do u mena hit as hard as 15?

spl means LOUD, and sq is QUALITY. 10 hits as hard as 15 means the 10inch sub can be as thumpin as the 15inch, but will sacrifice sq and life.
i was also thinking of buying audiobahn subs for cheap, but so many pple advised against it, and told me to go away from mainstream subs. my friend got some JL10w0's and they sound great. i'm thinking of buying the same thing.

How does it sacrifice SQ and life?

SPL= sound presure levels, "going for SPL" means you are more occupied with Numbers on the Mic or preceived loudness than clean quality bass.

SQ= sound quality means clean, smooth, undistorted bass which extends low. alot has to do with the driver but more has to do with the enclosure and the enclosrues reaction to the vehicle along with the listeners personal preferance.

SQL means retaining clean smooth bass while still having lots of preveived loudness, not nessicarily loud on the mic. though it can mean loud on the Mic while retaining clean output.

is there an inbetween? like i want something that has pretty good kick but i want my audio to be heard cause i listen to godsmack, 50 cent, ying yang twins, i prefer a decent hit over sound but i dont know any good subs

my friend got some JL10w0's and they sound great. i'm thinking of buying the same thing.

Step up to the W3s at least. It's worth the extra cost!

How does it sacrifice SQ and life?

driving a 10 to do a 15s job? wouldn't that distort the hell outta it? and prob blow it out sooner? i mean, i'm no die-hard expert, but thats what i think would happen if u push a 10 that much.

Step up to the W3s at least. It's worth the extra cost!

i guess, but i've been on a tight ass budget, (i'll be dead broke once i get my subs and amp), i got $300 left to spend. u think the w3's would be a good i dea? i got another thread if u can help me out: 467956

it has nothing to do with the size of the driver as to how long it lasts vs how loud it is. asl ong as you dont go over the drivers power handling and dont abuse it it will last forever or untill the mechanical parts deteriorate.
however 1 12 needs twice as much power to get as loud as 1 15 in theory, so if the power needed exceeds its powerh andleing then yes, it will blow eventually (sooner than later depending on how far over the limit). but this is by surface area only, this assumes similar efficency and Xmax and enclosure Qtc's (if sealed) and tunings/proportional volumes if ported.