your opinion pls!
craz235
10-03-2005, 09:12 AM
i noticed that it need new gasket, also fluid and filter.
i want your opinion- would you replace tranny filter and fluid yourself
or
take it to a chevrolet place and have them flush it out, i called them they say that they dont replace the filter cuz they use machine to drain and put some cleaner to clean the filter then replace fluid and gasket.
which way would you go if you were me?? just wanna make right choice.
i want your opinion- would you replace tranny filter and fluid yourself
or
take it to a chevrolet place and have them flush it out, i called them they say that they dont replace the filter cuz they use machine to drain and put some cleaner to clean the filter then replace fluid and gasket.
which way would you go if you were me?? just wanna make right choice.
jakegday
10-03-2005, 07:00 PM
which way would you go if you were me?? just wanna make right choice.
i would just do it myself, but thats just me, im cheap and im a do-it-yourselfer, and besides, a new filter has GOT to be cleaner then a cleaned filter
i would just do it myself, but thats just me, im cheap and im a do-it-yourselfer, and besides, a new filter has GOT to be cleaner then a cleaned filter
craz235
10-03-2005, 07:59 PM
yea i agree with you... my husband alway says like "save money, save money" lol
tmw i ll have it change and replace the filter and gasket. after that i hope it quit giving me trouble but it happens since that i just traded in my 1989 chev 4x4 in for 1998 chev cavalier.
tmw i ll have it change and replace the filter and gasket. after that i hope it quit giving me trouble but it happens since that i just traded in my 1989 chev 4x4 in for 1998 chev cavalier.
Classicrocjunkie
10-03-2005, 10:24 PM
I did mine myself.... And will again when i swap the built 2200 back into my car this comming year... Just to be sure when i get the Auto trans interceptor as well.
craz235
10-03-2005, 10:45 PM
i remmy seeing something about AutoTrans Interceptor on tv one day. arent sure what it does. have fun swapping :)
Thor06
10-03-2005, 10:47 PM
If you are mechanically inclined, have a Haynes manual, and some time, I would definately do it. I have done a couple of them, they arent too bad.
01Cavy
10-03-2005, 11:24 PM
I did mine myself.... And will again when i swap the built 2200 back into my car this comming year... Just to be sure when i get the Auto trans interceptor as well.
How many miles you got on your new engine?
How many miles you got on your new engine?
Boogieman142
10-03-2005, 11:52 PM
just do it yourself with a new filter and gasket. I believe that it is better for the tranny just doing it yourself, the tranny flush isn't always good for the tranny.
jakegday
10-04-2005, 08:32 AM
the tranny flush isn't always good for the tranny.
why?
why?
craz235
10-04-2005, 10:18 AM
i am not sure why you shouldnt do tranny flush but i was looking around about it and i saw a website and it say:
NEVER, EVER, DO TRANSMISSION FLUSH, UNLESS YOU HAVE MONEY FOR NEW TRANSMISSION!
for what reason, i dunno but it kinda scare me, lol i m gonna have my hubby do it the old-fashion way.
NEVER, EVER, DO TRANSMISSION FLUSH, UNLESS YOU HAVE MONEY FOR NEW TRANSMISSION!
for what reason, i dunno but it kinda scare me, lol i m gonna have my hubby do it the old-fashion way.
cdru
10-04-2005, 10:33 AM
I'd do it myself. Look at the condition of the ATF when it comes out as well as the filter and magnet stuck to the pan. If you see chunks of anything, a flush may be benificial. If the fluid is still red or reddish brown, a flush won't do anything. A greasy, silver substance around the magnet and in the bottom of the pan is normal. Just clean it out, wash it down with a solvent cleaner, let it dry, then put everything back.
Boogieman142
10-04-2005, 05:56 PM
why?
When you do a tranny flush it takes whatever dirt and abrasive material that was sealing up the transmission and making it work properly out and therefore it doesn't work well anymore. Some trannys will let go 200 miles after a flush even. It also shocks the transmission similar to you getting all nice and warm in a jacuzzi and then jumping into a pool. It just can't handle it, just like some engines just can't handle the sudden switch over to synthetic. However, an engine is much more durable than an automatic transmission, the tranny is usually the weak link in the system. By the way about the flush, my builder told me that right after he built my tranny after I did a flush. Some dealers will tell you that it wo't hurt it and can only help it, this is true in theory however automatic transmissions do some funny things. They will also tell you that the flush will on ly bring what problems that are in there out so you will notice them more, this also is not true, that is just how they cover their @$$ for when your tranny lets go. If the problems are in there than you will prolly notice them unless you have an electronic tranny and the computer compensates for pressure drops, which you won't even notice it going until it goes unless you do a scan. I hope this helps a little if you have any other questions just post it in here.
When you do a tranny flush it takes whatever dirt and abrasive material that was sealing up the transmission and making it work properly out and therefore it doesn't work well anymore. Some trannys will let go 200 miles after a flush even. It also shocks the transmission similar to you getting all nice and warm in a jacuzzi and then jumping into a pool. It just can't handle it, just like some engines just can't handle the sudden switch over to synthetic. However, an engine is much more durable than an automatic transmission, the tranny is usually the weak link in the system. By the way about the flush, my builder told me that right after he built my tranny after I did a flush. Some dealers will tell you that it wo't hurt it and can only help it, this is true in theory however automatic transmissions do some funny things. They will also tell you that the flush will on ly bring what problems that are in there out so you will notice them more, this also is not true, that is just how they cover their @$$ for when your tranny lets go. If the problems are in there than you will prolly notice them unless you have an electronic tranny and the computer compensates for pressure drops, which you won't even notice it going until it goes unless you do a scan. I hope this helps a little if you have any other questions just post it in here.
03cavPA
10-08-2005, 08:29 AM
The guy who does all the work I don't do myself is probably the best tranny guy in the area. He says there is a lot of information out now that suggests those tranny flushes do more harm than good. There have been instances where the flush actually blows seals out of the tranny. Definitely deadly for the tranny.
All I've ever had done is filter and fluid changes. I see the manual for my 03 says the first filter change should be 100k for normal service, 50k for severe duty. I asked him about it, and he said manuf. are going to extended intervals without any damage to the trans.
All I've ever had done is filter and fluid changes. I see the manual for my 03 says the first filter change should be 100k for normal service, 50k for severe duty. I asked him about it, and he said manuf. are going to extended intervals without any damage to the trans.
Project_Cav
10-08-2005, 06:57 PM
When you do a tranny flush it takes whatever dirt and abrasive material that was sealing up the transmission and making it work properly out and therefore it doesn't work well anymore. Some trannys will let go 200 miles after a flush even. It also shocks the transmission similar to you getting all nice and warm in a jacuzzi and then jumping into a pool. It just can't handle it, just like some engines just can't handle the sudden switch over to synthetic. However, an engine is much more durable than an automatic transmission, the tranny is usually the weak link in the system. By the way about the flush, my builder told me that right after he built my tranny after I did a flush. Some dealers will tell you that it wo't hurt it and can only help it, this is true in theory however automatic transmissions do some funny things. They will also tell you that the flush will on ly bring what problems that are in there out so you will notice them more, this also is not true, that is just how they cover their @$$ for when your tranny lets go. If the problems are in there than you will prolly notice them unless you have an electronic tranny and the computer compensates for pressure drops, which you won't even notice it going until it goes unless you do a scan. I hope this helps a little if you have any other questions just post it in here.
that doesnt even make sense...if you take away the dirt your reversing a seal on the transmission case ?...what about a car that just came off the factory line and has like .1 kilometes on it ?..if what you saying is true..then new cars shouldnt be working :screwy:
and why cant an engine switch over from normal to synthetic ? i did it on my car with no problems
that doesnt even make sense...if you take away the dirt your reversing a seal on the transmission case ?...what about a car that just came off the factory line and has like .1 kilometes on it ?..if what you saying is true..then new cars shouldnt be working :screwy:
and why cant an engine switch over from normal to synthetic ? i did it on my car with no problems
Boogieman142
10-12-2005, 01:53 AM
that doesnt even make sense...if you take away the dirt your reversing a seal on the transmission case ?...what about a car that just came off the factory line and has like .1 kilometes on it ?..if what you saying is true..then new cars shouldnt be working :screwy:
and why cant an engine switch over from normal to synthetic ? i did it on my car with no problems
Ok, first of all you need to understand what you are reading and actually know something about it. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The exact quote from my builder when i asked him what he thought about doing a flush "Don't tamper with a blood clot" He doesn't even do flushes. He is the best around that I know of, he's been building trannys for 45 years, so I think that he knows what he's talking about. No, if what i am saying is true then new cars should work like new. About the switching over to synthetic, I said some engines not all, read before you type. The synthetic is a thinner oil and it hardens seals so they may leak, depending on age and how it has been taken care of. You need to learn how to interpret things, Read the post over again, then figure out what it is saying then post a message when u know what you are talking about.
and why cant an engine switch over from normal to synthetic ? i did it on my car with no problems
Ok, first of all you need to understand what you are reading and actually know something about it. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The exact quote from my builder when i asked him what he thought about doing a flush "Don't tamper with a blood clot" He doesn't even do flushes. He is the best around that I know of, he's been building trannys for 45 years, so I think that he knows what he's talking about. No, if what i am saying is true then new cars should work like new. About the switching over to synthetic, I said some engines not all, read before you type. The synthetic is a thinner oil and it hardens seals so they may leak, depending on age and how it has been taken care of. You need to learn how to interpret things, Read the post over again, then figure out what it is saying then post a message when u know what you are talking about.
Project_Cav
10-12-2005, 01:42 PM
Ok, first of all you need to understand what you are reading and actually know something about it. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The exact quote from my builder when i asked him what he thought about doing a flush "Don't tamper with a blood clot" He doesn't even do flushes. He is the best around that I know of, he's been building trannys for 45 years, so I think that he knows what he's talking about. No, if what i am saying is true then new cars should work like new. About the switching over to synthetic, I said some engines not all, read before you type. The synthetic is a thinner oil and it hardens seals so they may leak, depending on age and how it has been taken care of. You need to learn how to interpret things, Read the post over again, then figure out what it is saying then post a message when u know what you are talking about.
umm..how bout no..doing a flush and filter change on a tranny is not like messing with a blood clot, trannys are just very very tricky and have to be done right since its one of the most sensitive components on a vehicle..it runs extreme pressure and if someone does a filter flush and swap and fucks up by getting dirt in there..the pressure of the tranny will throw those abbrasive materials around and cause wear and eventually failure...so yes..you are right when you say a tranny flush and filter change can fuck the tranny, but only when its done wrong...and synthetic oil on certain motors causing damage ?..that doesnt happen mostly becuz oil is oil when it comes to its job description..ppl didnt design synthetic oil to do less of a job then conventional oil..and when you talk about it being thinner thats not the fact that its synthetic..thats the weight of the oil..like 5w30-10w30
also yes you can cause damage to an engine depending on what type of weight oil you put in it..if you have a high compression enging and you put a thicker weight oil your cause the internals to be sluggish putting extra wear on them cuz they have to work harder to move under extreme use like drag racing or anything like that...NOT becuz its synthetic...synthetic was designed to replace conventional due to the fact that it works better (or so they say)
umm..how bout no..doing a flush and filter change on a tranny is not like messing with a blood clot, trannys are just very very tricky and have to be done right since its one of the most sensitive components on a vehicle..it runs extreme pressure and if someone does a filter flush and swap and fucks up by getting dirt in there..the pressure of the tranny will throw those abbrasive materials around and cause wear and eventually failure...so yes..you are right when you say a tranny flush and filter change can fuck the tranny, but only when its done wrong...and synthetic oil on certain motors causing damage ?..that doesnt happen mostly becuz oil is oil when it comes to its job description..ppl didnt design synthetic oil to do less of a job then conventional oil..and when you talk about it being thinner thats not the fact that its synthetic..thats the weight of the oil..like 5w30-10w30
also yes you can cause damage to an engine depending on what type of weight oil you put in it..if you have a high compression enging and you put a thicker weight oil your cause the internals to be sluggish putting extra wear on them cuz they have to work harder to move under extreme use like drag racing or anything like that...NOT becuz its synthetic...synthetic was designed to replace conventional due to the fact that it works better (or so they say)
Boogieman142
10-12-2005, 03:13 PM
umm..how bout no..doing a flush and filter change on a tranny is not like messing with a blood clot, trannys are just very very tricky and have to be done right since its one of the most sensitive components on a vehicle..it runs extreme pressure and if someone does a filter flush and swap and fucks up by getting dirt in there..the pressure of the tranny will throw those abbrasive materials around and cause wear and eventually failure...so yes..you are right when you say a tranny flush and filter change can fuck the tranny, but only when its done wrong...and synthetic oil on certain motors causing damage ?..that doesnt happen mostly becuz oil is oil when it comes to its job description..ppl didnt design synthetic oil to do less of a job then conventional oil..and when you talk about it being thinner thats not the fact that its synthetic..thats the weight of the oil..like 5w30-10w30
also yes you can cause damage to an engine depending on what type of weight oil you put in it..if you have a high compression enging and you put a thicker weight oil your cause the internals to be sluggish putting extra wear on them cuz they have to work harder to move under extreme use like drag racing or anything like that...NOT becuz its synthetic...synthetic was designed to replace conventional due to the fact that it works better (or so they say)
Doing a flush disturbs the dirt and abrasive material that is keeping the tranny sealed up. doing a flush can mess it up, and not because it was done wrong. doing a flush will not introduce any dirt into the system cause it is done with the machine. Well, if u want to go that route then technically synthetic oil isn't oil, its synthetic not petroleum. Oil is a petroleum product. Synthetic is thinner. The molecules that make it up are smaller, therefore it is much finer. Well, duh they didn't design it to be inferior, its a better lube and has better detergents in it so it cleans out the engine and may pull sludge out that is holding a seal. It also hardens seals up a little so they may shrink and leak, and because it is finer it finds all of those little cracks that conventional oil didn't and leaks out of them.
also yes you can cause damage to an engine depending on what type of weight oil you put in it..if you have a high compression enging and you put a thicker weight oil your cause the internals to be sluggish putting extra wear on them cuz they have to work harder to move under extreme use like drag racing or anything like that...NOT becuz its synthetic...synthetic was designed to replace conventional due to the fact that it works better (or so they say)
Doing a flush disturbs the dirt and abrasive material that is keeping the tranny sealed up. doing a flush can mess it up, and not because it was done wrong. doing a flush will not introduce any dirt into the system cause it is done with the machine. Well, if u want to go that route then technically synthetic oil isn't oil, its synthetic not petroleum. Oil is a petroleum product. Synthetic is thinner. The molecules that make it up are smaller, therefore it is much finer. Well, duh they didn't design it to be inferior, its a better lube and has better detergents in it so it cleans out the engine and may pull sludge out that is holding a seal. It also hardens seals up a little so they may shrink and leak, and because it is finer it finds all of those little cracks that conventional oil didn't and leaks out of them.
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