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MexRocket
09-29-2005, 03:30 PM
Holy crap.... This problem wont go away... i refuse to think that a $50 altenator belt is really going to make a diffence in my screeching problem, i have tried two different belts, techinically three, previous owner had some weird shit belt on it, Someone suggested i buy the poly cog belt for the altenator, it worked, for 2 days, then BOOM screeching started..... its werid though, only when its cold outside it screeches. So, there is NAPA belt, and POLY COG from advanced that didn't work, the nearest dealership for chrysler told me i should call MITSU. The mitsu guy that is 20 miles away told me that it would be 1-2 week wait for the belt... and $44.69+ tax for the belt... so i called the second closest chrysler dealership which is 22 miles away..... He told me that it would take one week, and it would cost $48.44 + tax......... I seriously think it has to be something other than the belt..... but what? there is belt shavings everywhere, and i dont see anything grinding or dragging on the belt when running...... nothing like starting my car at school next to a 240SX with a front mount on it screeching like a son of a bitch.... I dont even want to try the dressing crap, becuase all i read is that it sucks.... and doesn't do anything.

Black97GST
09-29-2005, 03:41 PM
are the pulleys lined up perfectly? if you have belt shavings everywhere, obviously there is a problem.

MexRocket
09-29-2005, 04:06 PM
How can you tell if they are lined up perfectly? do i have to take everything apart? the engine and tranny were just rebuilt.... so i would asume so...

Talon69
09-29-2005, 04:15 PM
alot of people have this problem with the belt sounds. Its a common problem with these cars, more on 2 g i thought but i could be wrong there

MexRocket
09-29-2005, 05:58 PM
well if that is the case? whats the fix?

soyee7
09-29-2005, 06:03 PM
Buy som Belt Dressing from the local hardware store and spray it on the belt, the screeching will go away. Screeching is usually caused by the belt being too loose or too dry. Try tightning the pully tensioner the belt is on.

Talon69
09-29-2005, 06:12 PM
I thought you were not suppose to put belt dressing on serpentine belts?
Matter in fact i believe it says that on the can, not recommended

MexRocket
09-29-2005, 06:15 PM
yah your not supposed to........ and belive me i have tried to tighten it and loosen it... doesn't change the ton of the screech...... i mean... for the person that made the comment that the pulleys might be not aligned right.... i just cant see someone who is rebuilding the engine making that huge of a mistake...

MexRocket
09-29-2005, 10:09 PM
anyone have any ideas?

Black97GST
09-30-2005, 12:25 AM
yah your not supposed to........ and belive me i have tried to tighten it and loosen it... doesn't change the ton of the screech...... i mean... for the person that made the comment that the pulleys might be not aligned right.... i just cant see someone who is rebuilding the engine making that huge of a mistake...

you never know man, not everyone is perfect. But the fact that you have belt shavings everywhere indicates that it is most likely rubbing somewhere or the pulleys are a tiny bit out of line. if the belt was too loose or tight, that wouldnt cause the belt to be wearing down.

Yungstar007
09-30-2005, 12:26 AM
Stock 2g belts are serpentine correct?

I just bought a belt dressing can the other day but didn't spray the actual belt. Only sprayed the turners as they looked pretty dry/rusty.

It somewhat helped the sound (after 5-10 minutes of loud squeeling.), went away for the rest of my drive home wednesday, they came back tonight on my way back from work. It was a pretty cold night though so I don't know if that had something to do with it. But it was louder than previously when I never sprayed anything on it.

Black97GST
09-30-2005, 12:27 AM
is the pulley on the alternator moving ok when you start up the car?? or does it hesitate to start moving??

gthompson97
09-30-2005, 02:21 AM
DO NOT USE BELT DRESSING!!! it doesn't work for shit, just makes it worse in the long run.

you should just be able to look down the belt with your eye and see if the tensioners are lined up. the ONLY time belts squeal is if there is too much or too little tension, or there is a fluid on the belt. on one of my cars (420a motor) i spilt some anitfreeze on the serpentine belt and the belt squeeled like crazy for about 5-10 minutes and then i cleaned the belt and it squealed for a little bit but went away, so either your problem is too tight or too loose or something is dripping/running onto the belt.

SLoe
09-30-2005, 07:19 AM
DO NOT USE BELT DRESSING!!! it doesn't work for shit, just makes it worse in the long run.


:iagree: That is a fact. I just went through the Goodyear training course on belts at work, and they say belt companies love for you to use that crap. The belts wear out faster when you use it and you buy more belts. I wouldn't spray it anywhere near a belt. :2cents:

Which side of the belt is worn? They always ride to the side with the least amount of tension. How many miles are on the pulley? Also, if you can't tell by looking, try a string line to see if the pulleys are lined up correctly.

myjeepsux420
09-30-2005, 11:32 AM
Without a doubt there's something out of alignment. Put on a belt, start the car and watch to see where it is out of alignment. With the belt off, check to see if everything spins freely. Might be the clutch on the a/c or the bearings in the alt.

MexRocket
09-30-2005, 11:40 AM
Well, the car hurts my ears with the screeching... i looked at the crankpulley and it seems to be dry and miscolored.... but i don't know what a normal looking one would look like anyway.... the engine and tranny have 10-11K miles on it at max.., the only things that i could think of would be oil may be dripping from my pan, or filter onto it.... it is leaking a whole bunch, and the drive shafts were broken at the boot... and there is tons of grease on both sides of the engine bay.... but grease doesn't drip up... HOpefully saturday i will have new driveshafts and rtv the oilpan and oil return from the turbo... The altenator, i think doesn't hesitate i cant really see how you would see that... and if the belt is on a side at all... it may be leaning a little to the left if you are looking at it from the front of the car, the belt seems to dry on top of the belt on some parts, and brand new on other parts.. if you put your hand on the on the ribbed side of the belt you will have a little bit of belt shavings on your hand..... the shavings are all generally on the altenator... i just dont get it..

MexRocket
09-30-2005, 12:56 PM
Well i just found a place that stocks... and has the belt for 30 dollars.... but look at this little drive i have to do.... so AHHHHHHHHH Total Est. Time: 52 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 32.68 miles for a belt :screwy:

MexRocket
09-30-2005, 05:45 PM
No help huh?

ez1286
09-30-2005, 09:17 PM
I think we should do your driveshafts and make sure to clean the belt and if it still does it then i'd say get the oem belt, btw if grease got on it it would last longer then oil and less would make it sqeel (like a pig) you might not even be able to see it.

Black97GST
09-30-2005, 10:19 PM
well here is a common sense way of checking to see if you altornator pulley is hesitating when you start the car. its really quite simple.....???
get a friend, have him or her start the car, LOOK at the alternator if the belt starts moving before the altornator pulley starts spinning, then there is a problem with a bearing or something in your alt.pulley..... hard huh???

MexRocket
10-01-2005, 12:28 AM
good one jackass? i thought there would be a more complicated way to it... i wish i was like you

Black97GST
10-02-2005, 12:50 AM
man if your gonna get pissed off when people try to help you out, then just leave. No one wants to put up with that crap.

MexRocket
10-02-2005, 10:15 AM
calm down man... i dont want this thread becoming a fight, like other homerotice threads and i dont want you to send me a picture of you threathening to kick my ass...sorry i was a prick, i was just pissed that my altenator belt is screeching for the 3rd time, and no one really knows why.... but thanx for thte info i think the altenator starts up fine,i'll find out today tho about anythign dripping on it

Black97GST
10-02-2005, 08:57 PM
its cool man, my bad

Thor06
10-02-2005, 10:23 PM
Wow, thats good to see. I commend you two being able to resolve your fued so quickly without intervention. WTF does homerotice mean?

SLoe
10-03-2005, 04:26 AM
homo-erotic:
Pertaining to or characterized by a tendency for erotic emotions to be centred on a person of the same sex; of or pertaining to a homo-erotic person. Frequently a synonym of homosexual. :greddy2:

MexRocket
10-03-2005, 11:17 AM
lol that face sums it up nice... well.... ez and i determined it has to be the altenator... it was tested as good, but to be safe im getting another belt and a reman altenator.... nothing was dripping on it..... nothing is scrapping the belt either.... meh thanx for the input

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