Finally wrote it up...
Mr. Luos
09-26-2005, 07:17 PM
This is what will be installed in the car by the end of next month. A disaster of course would slow that down, but I think I should be okay.
Anyways....
Texas Speed LQ9 402 stroker :evillol:
•Lunati Pro Mod rods
•Mahle Coated Forged Pistons 4.005" Bore
•Mahle 1.5mm,1.5mm,3mm Rings
•Eagle 4340 Forged Stroker Crankshaft
•New GM Engine Block
•Clevite H Series Rod & Main Bearings
•GM Camshaft Bearings
•Texas Speed 'Giant' cam----248/254 629/622 113 LSA
•Patriot LS6 Stage III heads (314cfm/228cfm at .600)(Patriot Dual Gold valvesprings)
•Comp hardened pushrods
•Kooks 1 7/8" stainless headers
•24" dumps with race mufflers (for now)
•LS6 ported oil pump
•COMP adjustable timing chain
•AutoMeter gauge pod with water temp, fuel pressure, and A/F gauges
•SPEC stage 5 clutch with upgraded Z06 hydraulics
•Delphi 42# injectors
•LS1Speed silver fuel rails
•Lunati lifters
•FAST LSx 90mm intake/90mm throttle body
•SLP lid
•SLP 85mm MAF
•SLP smooth bellow
•SLP switch controlled linelock
•Lou's Short Stick
•SLP strut tower brace
•UMI Adjustable torque arm
•UMI Rear lower control arms
•SLP subframe connectors
•Spohn Panhard Bar
•March underdrive pulley
•11:1 compression
•Cometic 4.030 bore .045" thickness head gaskets
•Nitto 555r drag radials
•Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump (installing over winter)
•Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator (also over winter)
Looks like the weakest link will be the rear end right now. Once that is fixed....Watch Out!!!
(As seen in the Firebird forums as well :lol:)
Anyways....
Texas Speed LQ9 402 stroker :evillol:
•Lunati Pro Mod rods
•Mahle Coated Forged Pistons 4.005" Bore
•Mahle 1.5mm,1.5mm,3mm Rings
•Eagle 4340 Forged Stroker Crankshaft
•New GM Engine Block
•Clevite H Series Rod & Main Bearings
•GM Camshaft Bearings
•Texas Speed 'Giant' cam----248/254 629/622 113 LSA
•Patriot LS6 Stage III heads (314cfm/228cfm at .600)(Patriot Dual Gold valvesprings)
•Comp hardened pushrods
•Kooks 1 7/8" stainless headers
•24" dumps with race mufflers (for now)
•LS6 ported oil pump
•COMP adjustable timing chain
•AutoMeter gauge pod with water temp, fuel pressure, and A/F gauges
•SPEC stage 5 clutch with upgraded Z06 hydraulics
•Delphi 42# injectors
•LS1Speed silver fuel rails
•Lunati lifters
•FAST LSx 90mm intake/90mm throttle body
•SLP lid
•SLP 85mm MAF
•SLP smooth bellow
•SLP switch controlled linelock
•Lou's Short Stick
•SLP strut tower brace
•UMI Adjustable torque arm
•UMI Rear lower control arms
•SLP subframe connectors
•Spohn Panhard Bar
•March underdrive pulley
•11:1 compression
•Cometic 4.030 bore .045" thickness head gaskets
•Nitto 555r drag radials
•Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump (installing over winter)
•Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator (also over winter)
Looks like the weakest link will be the rear end right now. Once that is fixed....Watch Out!!!
(As seen in the Firebird forums as well :lol:)
KPot2004
09-26-2005, 07:19 PM
nice....
Genopsyde
09-26-2005, 07:23 PM
wanna trade?
Mr. Luos
09-26-2005, 07:28 PM
wanna trade?
Not really.
Although there will be NOTHING wrong with yours. You should be making plenty of power as well.
Not really.
Although there will be NOTHING wrong with yours. You should be making plenty of power as well.
flatlander757
09-26-2005, 07:36 PM
All that and stock rear end? :nono:
Mr. Luos
09-26-2005, 07:38 PM
All that and stock rear end? :nono:
At my altitude, I will only be making around 420 RWHP. The rear is fine as long as I don't try launching it hard.
That will be the next thing though.
At my altitude, I will only be making around 420 RWHP. The rear is fine as long as I don't try launching it hard.
That will be the next thing though.
666_speed
09-26-2005, 07:38 PM
that sounds pretty freakin awesome...any idea how much you spent, just a ball park guess and what kind of power do you plan on putting down with that?
Link85x
09-26-2005, 07:50 PM
Damn Mr. Lous, how much have you spent so far, $10, 000+? Thats so good shiat you have there.
travis712
09-26-2005, 07:54 PM
You>me.
Your car is crazy, your car is gonna eat faces..
Yeah, I heard it on tv, shut up :p
Your car is crazy, your car is gonna eat faces..
Yeah, I heard it on tv, shut up :p
Matt365
09-26-2005, 07:59 PM
:eek7: :sly: :eek7: :eek2: Dam luos, i see its gonna be well worth the wait. Make sure u get a Vid out ASAP
Mr. Luos
09-26-2005, 08:28 PM
Damn Mr. Lous, how much have you spent so far, $10, 000+? Thats so good shiat you have there.
Easily that much. I didn't want to spare anything. Although I kinda did when I got the heads, but these should be fine.
The car should make 500 RWHP give or take.
Thank god for that tax return earlier this year. :lol:
Easily that much. I didn't want to spare anything. Although I kinda did when I got the heads, but these should be fine.
The car should make 500 RWHP give or take.
Thank god for that tax return earlier this year. :lol:
88camaroproject
09-26-2005, 08:38 PM
ummmm wow, im speechless. oh yeah well it rains in my car when it rains outside....and the passenger side floor gets a lake, you cant beat that with a stick...crap, damn, buy my car someone lol
philly rs
09-26-2005, 09:21 PM
im thinking that 430 hp is low balling it...im thinking more like 520. hell the stroke and bore, heads (are those gonna be worked too?) and cam by themselves should get u well over 450 if not right there. that cars gonna be a beast. i would love to run that car when mines is done..what better to loose to if i did....that would be so bad assed!! but even where u are at im sure that car will be in the 500 range, hell as hot and humid as it is here with all of that work people are running well over 400hp. im sure that car will be much faster than u say. i think u are trying to pull a gm under rating on us all lol
drvngstorm05
09-26-2005, 09:49 PM
im thinking that 430 hp is low balling it...im thinking more like 520. hell the stroke and bore, heads (are those gonna be worked too?) and cam by themselves should get u well over 450 if not right there. that cars gonna be a beast. i would love to run that car when mines is done..what better to loose to if i did....that would be so bad assed!! but even where u are at im sure that car will be in the 500 range, hell as hot and humid as it is here with all of that work people are running well over 400hp. im sure that car will be much faster than u say. i think u are trying to pull a gm under rating on us all lol
i think his altitude may hurt him more than the humidity and heat ever did us... i mean as far as i know his car w/ exhaust and lunati cam (and whatever else he had) was still running low 14's cuz of the altitude... at least i think that's what he said... correct me if i'm wrong luos lol but i think you said you were running 14's
anyway, that is a sick setup, and i'll say it again, i need spray to keep up haha :rofl:
i think his altitude may hurt him more than the humidity and heat ever did us... i mean as far as i know his car w/ exhaust and lunati cam (and whatever else he had) was still running low 14's cuz of the altitude... at least i think that's what he said... correct me if i'm wrong luos lol but i think you said you were running 14's
anyway, that is a sick setup, and i'll say it again, i need spray to keep up haha :rofl:
Savage Messiah
09-26-2005, 09:58 PM
:thumbsdow slow!!!!!
haha j/k, that's some good shit. is TSP gonna be tuning the pcm too??? I hear they do good work.
haha j/k, that's some good shit. is TSP gonna be tuning the pcm too??? I hear they do good work.
Mr. Luos
09-26-2005, 10:41 PM
TSP is not tuning it. Gonna see if I can't learn how to do that myself. Get a base tune and work from there.
Last time I checked my uncorrected dyno numbers were 320 RWHP and the corrected numbers were 376 RWHP. Altitude...SERIOUS lack of air kill us up here. The best I ever ran was a 14 flat here. Some parts my fault and some part the clutch's fault. Either way, it adjusted out to a 12.7-12.8 at sea level.
Hopefully that gives you guys an idea of what I lose up here.
Last time I checked my uncorrected dyno numbers were 320 RWHP and the corrected numbers were 376 RWHP. Altitude...SERIOUS lack of air kill us up here. The best I ever ran was a 14 flat here. Some parts my fault and some part the clutch's fault. Either way, it adjusted out to a 12.7-12.8 at sea level.
Hopefully that gives you guys an idea of what I lose up here.
MetalMulisha986
09-27-2005, 01:12 AM
Your not the only one with that rain problem 88 camaroproject. how do you get rid of that lake? lol
bag91
09-27-2005, 02:44 AM
Your not the only one with that rain problem 88 camaroproject. how do you get rid of that lake? lol
Since I park my car on an inclined driveway, the hatch leaks when it rains, not too bad but its pretty weird when its humid in your car and you hear all those swishing sounds that arent supposed to be there.... :iceslolan
Since I park my car on an inclined driveway, the hatch leaks when it rains, not too bad but its pretty weird when its humid in your car and you hear all those swishing sounds that arent supposed to be there.... :iceslolan
philly rs
09-27-2005, 06:57 AM
man that suxxxxx ass. i always thought this humid ass air down here was the big killer, i had no idea that being up there was that bad...hell i figured the air is still nice and cool up that way so u would be alright compaired to us, but i guess not.
Link85x
09-27-2005, 07:36 AM
So how much would you have crank? Around 580-600hp? About the leak... my t-tops leak and i hate it. Gotta get a welding kit to weld up the little hole, caused from years of rain build up in the weatherstripping valleys.
drvngstorm05
09-27-2005, 12:24 PM
man that suxxxxx ass. i always thought this humid ass air down here was the big killer, i had no idea that being up there was that bad...hell i figured the air is still nice and cool up that way so u would be alright compaired to us, but i guess not.
the air up there is nice and cold... but the higher the altitude, the thinner the air is, so ya, he loses alot... he would definately lay down some big numbers if he went to tampa
the air up there is nice and cold... but the higher the altitude, the thinner the air is, so ya, he loses alot... he would definately lay down some big numbers if he went to tampa
Rally Sport
09-27-2005, 12:32 PM
the air up there is nice and cold... but the higher the altitude, the thinner the air is, so ya, he loses alot... he would definately lay down some big numbers if he went to tampa
Kinda doubt it.. because its humid as hell im guessing down there, so more water in the air, im guessing. To lay down perfect numbers.. you gotta go to Arizona or some dry hot place like that.
Kinda doubt it.. because its humid as hell im guessing down there, so more water in the air, im guessing. To lay down perfect numbers.. you gotta go to Arizona or some dry hot place like that.
drvngstorm05
09-27-2005, 12:49 PM
tampa's altitude is really low... and at night when we would street race, it would be decently cool, so its very dense/cold air... very good for engines. air being hot hurts more than air being humid... besides even humid air, the amount of water is so small it doesn't make that much of a difference... the altitude makes the most difference, the density of the air can help the most... lay down massive numbers if you go to death valley or something at night when the air isn't too hot
MPe488
09-27-2005, 02:28 PM
Wow... I had no idea altitude hurt that much, I'm gonna try to stay close to sea level, especailly when I can actually afford a fast car. It must suck to be running same 1/4 mile times as a slightly modded 99-04 GT stang(on sea level), and making about 100HP more.
88camaroproject
09-27-2005, 03:11 PM
Your not the only one with that rain problem 88 camaroproject. how do you get rid of that lake? lol
i have to vaccume the puddle out and clean it with some spray stuff so it dosnt smell sooo bad in there. i have used like half a bottle of silicon trying to get my t tops to stop leaking along with the section right in front of my window, i had 5 leaks and now im down to 3. damn where can i get a weather strip kit for really really CHEAP!?
i have to vaccume the puddle out and clean it with some spray stuff so it dosnt smell sooo bad in there. i have used like half a bottle of silicon trying to get my t tops to stop leaking along with the section right in front of my window, i had 5 leaks and now im down to 3. damn where can i get a weather strip kit for really really CHEAP!?
1986Z28
09-27-2005, 03:21 PM
duct tape is cheap, and would look good with the blue on you car :evillol:
Mr. Luos
09-27-2005, 06:01 PM
Wow... I had no idea altitude hurt that much, I'm gonna try to stay close to sea level, especailly when I can actually afford a fast car. It must suck to be running same 1/4 mile times as a slightly modded 99-04 GT stang(on sea level), and making about 100HP more.
Not really. They are just that much slower here. :icon16:
It all depends on the day here. We tend to be dry, but we get pretty hot. But it really is night and day when you take a car to sea level. Even the Grand Am had a HUGE change. Ran smoother and MUCH harder.
Crank power should be roughly 560-580. I figure that with it hitting 500 RWHP and 12-13% loss to the wheels.
It should be able to run in the 12's pretty easy here. Hell, before I tore down it was trapping 105 MPH, which was good enough for deep 13's here. Just couldn't get her off the line. On average, you can knock off a second or so in the altitude change. My 105 MPH trap would have been like 113 MPH at sea level. That might give you a better idea of what I deal with. But any N/A car deals with it here, so.....
Not really. They are just that much slower here. :icon16:
It all depends on the day here. We tend to be dry, but we get pretty hot. But it really is night and day when you take a car to sea level. Even the Grand Am had a HUGE change. Ran smoother and MUCH harder.
Crank power should be roughly 560-580. I figure that with it hitting 500 RWHP and 12-13% loss to the wheels.
It should be able to run in the 12's pretty easy here. Hell, before I tore down it was trapping 105 MPH, which was good enough for deep 13's here. Just couldn't get her off the line. On average, you can knock off a second or so in the altitude change. My 105 MPH trap would have been like 113 MPH at sea level. That might give you a better idea of what I deal with. But any N/A car deals with it here, so.....
philly rs
09-27-2005, 08:05 PM
man i didnt think about it that way storm but i did find out that if lou put a blower on that thing he could make up for the loss he's getting with that high sea level issue. but on the otherside his car would kick some hard big donkey kong ass if he was down here. and yes at night is when u race here, its the best time. plus where we will run in dec is the spot. long ass bridge too st pete and im telling u the air there rocks like a porn star with tig ol bitties.
MetalMulisha986
09-27-2005, 08:46 PM
lol, it seems that t-tops are pretty problematic when it comes to rain. and the (whistling?) on the freeway gets pretty bothersome.
Rally Sport
09-27-2005, 09:20 PM
lol, it seems that t-tops are pretty problematic when it comes to rain. and the (whistling?) on the freeway gets pretty bothersome.
Thats why you rip those suckers off and drive like a real man.. without any A/C and if it rains.. DRIVE FASTER.
Thats why you rip those suckers off and drive like a real man.. without any A/C and if it rains.. DRIVE FASTER.
drvngstorm05
09-28-2005, 07:45 AM
i don't have t-tops... but i have been driving on the interstate and it started raining w/ my windows down... so i sped up to about 80 and the water stopped comin in my windows haha... that's sad when i'm too lazy to hit the power window button to roll 'em up haha, i'd rather just go faster...
Link85x
09-28-2005, 08:33 AM
Mr. Lous, that car is going to be dangerous indeed. Do you have any future plans to go super/turbo charged or nitrous. You know your not gonna stop right there, i think it's impossible.
Rally Sport
09-28-2005, 09:03 AM
i don't have t-tops... but i have been driving on the interstate and it started raining w/ my windows down... so i sped up to about 80 and the water stopped comin in my windows haha... that's sad when i'm too lazy to hit the power window button to roll 'em up haha, i'd rather just go faster...
Wow that IS lazy, unless you drive with your right hand, but still.. god damn thats lazy! I know if I didnt do that i'd be the ultimate lazy since I drive with my left hand only and rest my right hand ontop of the console and usually grab the shifter.
Wow that IS lazy, unless you drive with your right hand, but still.. god damn thats lazy! I know if I didnt do that i'd be the ultimate lazy since I drive with my left hand only and rest my right hand ontop of the console and usually grab the shifter.
Mr. Luos
09-28-2005, 06:00 PM
Mr. Lous, that car is going to be dangerous indeed. Do you have any future plans to go super/turbo charged or nitrous. You know your not gonna stop right there, i think it's impossible.
If anything, supercharger.
No bottle me for. I like having the power all the time. Nothing wrong with the juice, just not my style.
If it gets charged, a bunch of things will change. Heads will have to be bigger combustion chambers, so I would upgrade to the AFR's I wanted to begin with. I would be looking for 8.5:1 compression or so without boost. Would be easy to get to with a thick head gasket and bigger CC chambers.
Time will tell. Rear-end is in the near future I think. Damn things are expensive, so it might be a while for that.
If anything, supercharger.
No bottle me for. I like having the power all the time. Nothing wrong with the juice, just not my style.
If it gets charged, a bunch of things will change. Heads will have to be bigger combustion chambers, so I would upgrade to the AFR's I wanted to begin with. I would be looking for 8.5:1 compression or so without boost. Would be easy to get to with a thick head gasket and bigger CC chambers.
Time will tell. Rear-end is in the near future I think. Damn things are expensive, so it might be a while for that.
travis712
09-28-2005, 06:58 PM
Your gonna have the ultimate weekend cruiser, ever.
Mr. Luos
09-28-2005, 07:06 PM
Thanks. It should be fun to drive.
I just don't want to go to straight drag only with this car. I don't go to the track enough to do that.
I just don't want to go to straight drag only with this car. I don't go to the track enough to do that.
supervisor1886
09-28-2005, 07:52 PM
put in a roll cage and start drag racing for cash!
Savage Messiah
09-28-2005, 07:53 PM
roll cages are teh suck
Rally Sport
09-28-2005, 08:05 PM
roll cages are teh suck
Not when they're in use!
Also, Curtis, Im guessing you're getting some good suspension work done?
Not when they're in use!
Also, Curtis, Im guessing you're getting some good suspension work done?
Mr. Luos
09-28-2005, 10:45 PM
Kinda.
Rear lower control arms, torque arm.
Subframe connectors, strut tower brace, and panhard bar were already done.
More needs done, including a cage. Sadly to race it under NHRA rules at sea level it will require a cage.
Rear lower control arms, torque arm.
Subframe connectors, strut tower brace, and panhard bar were already done.
More needs done, including a cage. Sadly to race it under NHRA rules at sea level it will require a cage.
Rally Sport
09-28-2005, 10:47 PM
Well with your car i'd get one anyway.. too precious to be cocky about.
Mr. Luos
09-28-2005, 11:00 PM
Not cocky. I hate the idea of having a roll cage.
To me, that basicly makes it a drag car. If I stay up here, I can run it to 11.50 before it needs a cage. At this altitude, it would take a TON of more work to get it to that. It can be done, but not soon for me. That is basicly my goal.
If I get kicked off tracks at sea level....so be it. :lol:
To me, that basicly makes it a drag car. If I stay up here, I can run it to 11.50 before it needs a cage. At this altitude, it would take a TON of more work to get it to that. It can be done, but not soon for me. That is basicly my goal.
If I get kicked off tracks at sea level....so be it. :lol:
Savage Messiah
09-29-2005, 01:00 AM
I live for the day when they will kick me off for not having a cage, it's liek a rite of passage, i woudl be pround of that :D
Link85x
09-29-2005, 08:12 AM
I agree.
Link85x
09-29-2005, 08:20 AM
Btw Mr. Lous, what kinda tranny do you have? I believe i remember you saying you had a T56. Is the tranny being built up aswell?
Mr. Luos
09-29-2005, 06:38 PM
Tranny is stock for now. T56.
I am sure eventually I will need to build it up. I won't be able to really stress it out too much without a rear end, so it will be fine. I also got a tunnel brace mounted torque arm. The stock torque arm is mounted to the tranny tailshaft. More power, more stress on that. So I had the mount be tunnel braced instead. I will try to get pics when everything is here.
Torque arm and rear LCA's should be here early next week.
I am sure eventually I will need to build it up. I won't be able to really stress it out too much without a rear end, so it will be fine. I also got a tunnel brace mounted torque arm. The stock torque arm is mounted to the tranny tailshaft. More power, more stress on that. So I had the mount be tunnel braced instead. I will try to get pics when everything is here.
Torque arm and rear LCA's should be here early next week.
Earlsfat
09-29-2005, 09:22 PM
...but on the otherside his car would kick some hard big donkey kong ass if he was down here....
LOL! That was so beautifully worded it brought tears to my eyes.:crying:
LOL! That was so beautifully worded it brought tears to my eyes.:crying:
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