Crankwalk question

I decided to ask since a lot of people here own gst's and gsx. In probably in a week I am gonna have a GSX. ( waiting on guy to bring paperwork). The car is nice, but I have heard a lot from around here about how you can get crankwalk. One guy said that if you put a heavy duty clutch on a stock car you will get crankwalk. other said that only cars with lots of hp get it ??? My major question is does crankwalk occur because of the owners way of driving the car or just because its already defect in the engine and no matter how you drice the car it still occurs. I dont want to buy a car and change the block the next day. I tried to find the FAQ about crankwalk symptoms but i couldnt. Can some one please post the link since I think the GSX may have crankwalk.

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btw post your car spec , exp , year , tranny , mile , any mods.

btw post your car spec , exp , year , tranny , mile , any mods.

Take your own advice. Put it in your signature.

As for the crankwalk question, do a search. That shit is plastered all over this site. Read the FAQ page first at the top of the forum.

Heres a link, because I'm nice. Read it like it's the gospel, it was written by the god of all DSM's *kevin*.

http://www.racingknowledge.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=185

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lol he said he wanted a link to the vfaqs he knows where to look he just couldnt find it.

3) Crankwalk: There are a number of threads on this site regarding crankwalk (at least 10-15 started by me ). For a detailed explanation and discussion of the common problem with certain models of the 4g63 engine known as "crankwalk," check out this link:
Write-up on CW << Written by Kevin aka 95GSXracer
Essentially, crankwalk is a cute name for thrust bearing failure. This is a vast oversimplification, but bottom line is, you need a new engine!
Another Lengthy write-up on CW << Written by 97GSTspyder

Link provided by Shpyder- The Sound of Crankwalk

Now, don't close the window and run to your nearest Honda dealership just yet...thrust bearing failure can happen to ANY vehicle. And in all honesty, it only happens to DSM's very rarely. If you choose to buy an Eclipse or Talon, and you shop around well enough to find one that looks to be well-maintained, you can minimize your chances of getting crankwalk. WORST case scenario: the used car you buy has crankwalk, and you have to get a 6-bolt engine put into it for $2000 or so. But, in all likelihood your car will be good to go for many years. I would not recommend buying a DSM without being willing to spend this money if your car gets crankwalk. Allow me to stress again that it is very rare, and the pleasures of owning a DSM far outweigh the risk or even cost of crankwalk, in the rare event that it occurs!

just go to the FAQ link and scroll down until you see what i just Copied and Pasted. There are a few links on there that have some GOOD info.

yes it is thrust bearing failure due to the fact that the first gen six bolt has 2 oil squirters for sufficient lubrication, the 7 bolt second gen only has one. so the question bout crank walk with the sec gen is not if it happens its when.

so the question bout crank walk with the sec gen is not if it happens its when.

Ummmm....no. Crankwalk is not inevitable.

Ummmm....no. Crankwalk is not inevitable.

uuuuuuuummmmmmmm yes it will happen regaurdless of what u say it is an engineering flaw that can only be corrected by replacing the thrust bearing about every 30000, or have i shop install a second squirter in, so its not inevitable if u do what i stated above. period, and to the guy who started this thread if u jump on it alot you will shorten its life span very fast, my suggestion if u buy it change the bearings when u buy to give u a little piece of mind

I wanted to ask I forgot his name ( owns the 2005 EVO) since he said that he crankwalked 3 or 4 motors and he obviously knows what he is talking about. I think there was a poll and you guys wanted to make him a mod ? Is there a way to prevent crankwalk , and whats the easiest way to see if its crankwalking ???? I mean I cant say to the guy , take your engine apart so I can see if its crankwalking and then I will buy the car. I want the car but I hate to see it crankwalk and become another money pit.

I wanted to ask I forgot his name ( owns the 2005 EVO) since he said that he crankwalked 3 or 4 motors and he obviously knows what he is talking about. I think there was a poll and you guys wanted to make him a mod ? Is there a way to prevent crankwalk , and whats the easiest way to see if its crankwalking ???? I mean I cant say to the guy , take your engine apart so I can see if its crankwalking and then I will buy the car. I want the car but I hate to see it crankwalk and become another money pit.

well if it has crankwalk already then it wont drive if it does there will be a whole lotta racket comming from the engine, yes the way to help prevent it is what i stated in my last post on this thread, i dont wanna scare u away, i have a gst not stock and i beat on it everyday im just waitin for it to break then i might just give it to _eclipse_ i think thats his handle

Play nicely people, i dont want to have to close this innocent thread. I dont want to see anymore bickering back and forth between you two. Take it to private messages.

You dont have to disassemble the entire engine to see if a car is crankwalking either.

Not all Eclipse engines experience crankwalk as the aforementioned poster seems to think though. Although almost all engines do experience some form of it in their lifetime. It just happens to be detrimental to the 4G63 because of how it's designed.

sorry for not posting my signature , I just know how to do the signature , hope it work :lol: .

yes josh as u say it will happen, and i also stated above why and which 4g63, the 7 bolt 4g63 gets this problem and again its not if its when......(for this particular engine,7 bolt)

there are MANY people that would disagree with you Pinkslip, but thats just your opinion and you are entitled to it, however its not a PROOVEN fact that ALL 4g63 engines WILL get crankwalk. so that is just your assumption and nothin else. just to clear everything up.

Who says crankwalk is bad?!?!?! I just installed one in my car and damn it pulls like a mofo! It's the latest thing... :grinyes:

Okay dude seriously you should only 2% be worrying about something like that when looking for a Mitsu. I'll admit I was freeked out at one point in time too but just make sure you have just a little extra cash on the side incase something happens up to that degree even though it 95% won't.

yes josh as u say it will happen, and i also stated above why and which 4g63, the 7 bolt 4g63 gets this problem and again its not if its when......(for this particular engine,7 bolt)

You are severely misinformed. The vaaast majority of 7 bolts never CW and die of natural causes. Please stop spreading this misinformation. Thanks.

yes josh as u say it will happen, and i also stated above why and which 4g63, the 7 bolt 4g63 gets this problem and again its not if its when......(for this particular engine,7 bolt)

You have no idea what you are talking about, take a hike.

To the original poster: Measure the crank endplay before you buy the car just to be safe. I have 102k on my car, I'm boosting 19psi all day long and haven't crankwalked yet. I also have many friends with 100+k and have had no problems.

yes josh as u say it will happen, and i also stated above why and which 4g63, the 7 bolt 4g63 gets this problem and again its not if its when......(for this particular engine,7 bolt)


I think you misread what i wrote, you should go back and reread it again.

well if it has crankwalk already then it wont drive if it does there will be a whole lotta racket comming from the engine

I had thrust bearing failure, it ran like a champ up to the day I yanked the engine and never made a single sound. I never would have known I had it if I hadn't had so many problems with the clutch (if you read, that is one of the biggest indications). I also don't think it comes from dogging your car, I would think that it is obvious it is from disengaging the clutch. So the longer you ride that clutch sitting at the stop-light the more you wear that thrust bearing. Also at start-up when there is no oil circulation, so eliminate the start switch so you don't have to push in the clutch to start the engine. It can't be inevitable or there would be no 2g's left on the road because not too many people are going to replace a motor after a few thousand miles. :2cents:

ok ur all mis informed if i am, not all just the seven bolts get it because of oil starvation its not misiformation, yes its my opinion but not just to have one from seeing it time and time and time and time and time and time again............call mitsu dealership on 19 north clearwater and ask for the tech dept. and tell them u wanna speak with gary and i will explain it to u why it will happen everytime (ON THE 7 BOLT) I NEVER SAID ALL 4G63 JUST SECOND GEN, WHY DO U THINK EVERYONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY R DOING SWAPS TO A SIX BOLT??????? MUST BE TO JUST WASTE MONEY
do more research before u tell me im spreading bad info,because thats not what im doing im giving u my opinion through all of my expirences

If any of you would like to call Gary or contact him, PM for further information because this thread has run its course and will be closed.