Acetone Fuel Additive Update

Well, if everyone was around a while ago, the big thing for saving fuel was to add 3oz of acetone to every 10 gallons of gas in your fuel tank.

Here is the link:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=385632&highlight=acetone

I said what the hell and I introduced 6oz to my 19 gallon tank and recorded the difference.

I travel the same routes all the time and all driving is similar to the last tank.

Here are the results:

City Fuel Economy Before: 13.7mpg

City Fuel Economy WITH ACETONE: 16.8mpg

This is ridiculous.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Almost makes you wonder why the hell it's not already a fuel additive... but then again, why would they want to do that?

I think I'm gonna try that out myself.

Yip, just add 6oz to you next full tank and reset your odometer.

Drive normally.

This might take three or more tanks so the computer gets to relearn.

Reset your computer if you want it to learn faster.

Here is a report on different vehicles that uses acetone in their fule mix.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive

~Xpc

How about vegetable oil?

http://www.greasecar.com/profiles_list.cfm


~Xpc...

My girl is going to kill me when her acetone is gone! She will just have to deal with her fingernails painted the same color for a while!

Check out this link...... http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

BlazerLT, What is acetone? Isn't it a solvent? I remember back when Gasohol (gasoline and Alcohol) was mixed and sold. It came with a warning to watch your fuel filter as the alcohol would tend to cause residue (varnish?) from inside the tank to dissolve and end up in the fuel filter. Might want to be aware of this in case the acetone does the same thing.

The acetone thing has been well known for years. The issue is that aceton e carbons up everything, it will also eventually chew on rings and dry out rubber seals... It's a far worse solvent than gasoline ever could be.

The acetone thing has been well known for years. The issue is that aceton e carbons up everything, it will also eventually chew on rings and dry out rubber seals... It's a far worse solvent than gasoline ever could be.

I got to thinking about that after I posted my first post. Could acetone do anything to a fuel pump?

Alright so here is the million dollar question.... Should we or should we not try this? I am extremely curious after BlazerLT's results. Cause you know with the new hurricaine by Sunday gas will be almost $4 dollars a gallon again!

The acetone thing has been well known for years. The issue is that aceton e carbons up everything, it will also eventually chew on rings and dry out rubber seals... It's a far worse solvent than gasoline ever could be.

Completely Wrong

Acetone is an octane similar to toluene, xylene and others that are used for octane ratings. Acetone has an octane of 150.

It doesn't cause carboning.

It doesn't eat rubber and plastic, it might swell rubber in 100% pure concentration, but it doesn't EAT IT.

Use it if you want, but don't crap your baseless opinions on my thread. Saying that it carbons up engines is the first hint that you don't know what you are talking about. Are you saying higher octance fuel carbons up plugs? Wouldn't that then decrease fuel economy then? Yes, it would.

It works and I am saving money and getting better performance.

If you want to use it, go ahead, but if you don't, I won't tolerate a bunch of naive people coming in a putting it down when they don't have the balls to at least try it out themselves.

Put the Acetone in first tank, will do an average over 5 tanks and let ya'll know. (reset the computer too)

If I get to what works out to be almost 100km more per tank... yeah baby! I can handle that.

~Xpc.

Wasn't there a thread on here where someone soaked parts in 100% pure acetone for months and took them out and nothing had been damaged? Meaning plastic and rubber parts? Maybe I was day dreaming again. Who knows

Yes BlazerBoyLT98, the link to it is in BlazerLT's first post. The guy soaked some parts in acetone for close to a month with no problems.

Yes BlazerBoyLT98, the link to it is in BlazerLT's first post. The guy soaked some parts in acetone for close to a month with no problems.
HAHAHAHA ooops! How the hell did that get there! Sorry punchy today. Spent the whole day setting up wireless networks in doctor offices while dreaming about acetone ;)

Completely Wrong

Acetone is an octane similar to toluene, xylene and others that are used for octane ratings. Acetone has an octane of 150.

It doesn't cause carboning.

It doesn't eat rubber and plastic, it might swell rubber in 100% pure concentration, but it doesn't EAT IT.

Use it if you want, but don't crap your baseless opinions on my thread. Saying that it carbons up engines is the first hint that you don't know what you are talking about. Are you saying higher octance fuel carbons up plugs? Wouldn't that then decrease fuel economy then? Yes, it would.

It works and I am saving money and getting better performance.

If you want to use it, go ahead, but if you don't, I won't tolerate a bunch of naive people coming in a putting it down when they don't have the balls to at least try it out themselves.


One of your problems is that you believe the 1st thing you see on the internet. This is demonstrated time and time again.

Acetone: C3H6O (CC(=O)C)
Ethanol: C2H6O (CCO)
Gasoline: C5H10 - C12H24 (C=C-C)
Water: H2O

Now, do you see what's wrong here? Ethanol is a polar substance, along with water...and ACETONE. How the fark are you supposed to get it to completely dissolve into the gasoline? Acetone will somewhat mix with gasoline but acetone, being less dense, and polar, just kinda sit on the top of the gas in the tank, and eventually cause a build-up of acetone in the top of the tank, You eventually will suck up higher percentages of acetone into your system. These higher percentages will start to tear down seals and rings. High percentages of heated (200 degrees f.) C3H6O (CC(=O)C) when mixed with steel, aluminum and even titanium for long periods of time (lets say 6 mos of average adding to your system and build up) cause pitting and wear of these metals and platics (such as polypropelene and styrenes which is what the majority of rubber seals in most cars use) So, basically, whatever results you would get in the short term would be purely a placebo effect.

So next time you want to jump on a chem nerd about something blazer lt, go and take chem 101 and actually pass the course. One of my advantages is advanced chemestry. Again, this idea has been around for years. Everyone looks for the silver bullet, no one has found it yet. And there is a reason. These tests with acetone were done as well during the 70's gas crunch to no avail. Gas companies were looking to cut their gas with something safe and acetone didn't cut it. Too much acetone build up in the system will also not burn properly and actually burn less efficiently than gasoline, far less efficiently than toulene and therefor cause carbon build up. In the short term it's an ok thing, in the long term it's detrimental to your engine.

Now, I expect this post to be deleted because someone disagrees with you and you're throwing a temper tantrum instead of reasonable debate...

lol, oh noes, the network adminstrator is a chemistry professional. Obviously if you do you research, you buy you fuel from a station that does use alcohol in significant amounts when they are blending their fuels. Did you care to read that? Nope.....

Again, you are wrong.

We are not using concentrations that result in a built up or overuse of the additive. We are using 3oz/10gallons, NOT 50/50 like you indirectly seems to be suggesting. Hell I could piss 6 oz in my tank and it won't cause the problems you are touting will happen.

But regardless, if it is going to float then I didn't even get to that level seeing I only ran the tank to just above 1/4 and didn't suck it dry.

And if you are thinking that that small tiny concentration will all of a sudden melt everything in your fuel system, then your chemistry knowledge is not based off of the real world. There have been tests don already and even with 100% acetone, the rubber and plastic will not degrade but the rubber has been proven to actually SWELL be a small tiny fraction.

Coming from a guy that talk about the EGR MOD being the silver bullet for our trucks, you obviously don't like it when people tell you how that doesn't work now do you? So stop being a hypocrit.

Don't get pissed when I defend this and my results.

I HAD MY MILEAGE INCREASE OVER 3MPG WITH THIS, HOW CAN YOU DISPUTE THAT?

Just face up, you are too much of a pussy to test it out so you will hide behind your pointless chemical equations.

All you will do now is say that I changed something or a babied it or the weather was different or Hurricane Rita was making it run better or something pointless you will pull out of your hat to back you nonsense reasons.

Go ahead and try it, and if not , shut up.

lol, oh noes, the network adminstrator is a chemistry professional. Obviously if you do you research, you buy you fuel from a station that does use alcohol in significant amounts when they are blending their fuels. Did you care to read that? Nope.....

Again, you are wrong.

We are not using concentrations that result in a built up or overuse of the additive. We are using 3oz/10gallons, NOT 50/50 like you are suggesting.

And if you are thinking that that small tiny concentration will all of a sudden melt everything in your fuel system, then your chemistry knowledge is not based off of the real world.

Coming from a guy that talk about the EGR MOD being the silver bullet for our trucks, you obviously don't like it when people tell you how that doesn't work now do you? So stop being a hypocrit.

Don't get pissed when I defend this and my results.

I HAD MY MILEAGE INCREASE OVER 3MPG WITH THIS, HOW CAN YOU DISPUTE THAT?

Just face up, you are too much of a pussy to test it out so you will hide behind your pointless chemical equations.


Oh, so you insult me by calling me a pussy, nice, very mature. Gas is mixed with both ethenol and /or alchohol.

I don't deny that in the short term you will see a miledge increase, and are you jealous that I'm well versed in chemestry, both practical and theoretical uses? (I wasn't always a network engineer). You don't undertstand how build up works do you? While you are pouring in small amounts, being a polar chemical, not all of it will be burned off (unless you suck the tank literally dry on each fill) Now assume a postive attitude that at least 75% of the acetone is burned, that leaves the remaining 25% floating around. Now keep doing this and the build up of acetone that stays in the tank will grow. Now you have a little more than 2 oz burning through your engine...This also has a culmative effect. It's been shown as stated above in various studies acetones effect of basic materials. Shit, it can damage skin pretty bad with long term use, why do you think non acetone nail polish remover is becoming more and more popular with women.

You can defend your position all you want. The problem is that you don't back it up with scientific evidence, you show anecdodal evidence.

I provided sound scientific evidence by way of chemical make up and basis and how these chemicals react with one another and how these chemicals react with other materials. Don't want to believe me? Fine, stop at your local university and talk to any chemical guy/girl in their 1st year and they will tell you the same thing.

Why won't I put the stuff in my tank? Not that I'm afraid, a tank or two with acetone in it wouldn't hurt it at all and would increase the miledge, but the trade off is long term use and relative damage.

No thanks.

Again, by calling me names and bringing your nazi attitude here you prove once again my point above.

As to the EGR mod, never said it was a silver bullet, never claimed that. I said and stand by definate improvement and worth while mod with no long term damaging effects. In fact was essentially built in to the 2002+ engines. When this debate first started about the EGR mod on s10planet.com we tried to help you and point you in the right direction and you kept throwing a tempertantrum just like you've done above. This is your pattern BlazerLT, and you till this day don't understand the principals of reasonable debate.

This is not a debate thread, I am posting my real life results and you are posting nothing but theories.

You have no practical knowledge of this yet you can claim that this is just wrong, or won't work? Comon now, again, you are just too chicken to try it yourself.

And to the insults, you are the one that first told me to take the chemistry course and pass so if you get your same crap thrown back in your face, so be it. Take it like a man.

And to the EGR mod? You have conclusive testing that it doesn't affect anything? Hmmm... I don't see any record of it.

The only difference between these two situations is the fact that I have the balls to test it whether it be the EGR Mod, water cylinder decarbonizing, acetone etc...

I don't sit back and throw out theories and a bunch of distracting explanations out there, I ACTUALLY TRY IT.

So again, before you actually say it won't work, DO SOME TESTING YOURSELF. Don't just open your text book and state how it might now do anything.

3MPG increase for me and I had the balls to do it.

I suggest you do the same or just move along.

Practical application hold s alot more water than theories in the real world. I suggest you try it and disprove me.

Theory? I used to work with 100% acetone and keytone in labs bub...I know how the stuff works.

Gee, putting in an IV full of coffee into my arm seems like an a cool thing to do and I heard of others doing it... Would sure save me time, I think I'll do it... Meanwhile it would kill me in probably under 30 seconds.

Gee, heoin gives a nice high...Short term use=enjoyable high, long term use=death.

Show me where what I posted is theory? I posted 100% scientific FACT, NOT anecdodal evidence, nor theory.

And ONCE AGAIN let me state....

IN THE SHORT TERM YOU WILL SEE A MILEDGE INCREASE AND UNLIKELY DO ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR MOTOR.

Let me say AGAIN: IN THE LONG TERM DO TO THE CHEMICAL MAKEUP OF ACETONE AND IT'S REACTIONS TO OTHER MATERIALS WHICH AGAIN IS BACKED BY SCIENTIFIC FACT WILL DO DAMAGE.

AGAIN: SHORT TERM USE IS UNLIKELY TO DO ANY DAMAGE, LONG TERM USE WILL

P.S. SCIENTIFIC FACT IS BASED ON PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS.

AGAIN: GAS COMPANIES TESTED THIS METHOD IN THE 70'S GAS CRUNCH AND FAILED.

Gads, don't you think if this worked as a regular additive that everyone would be using it long before now? Yes, acetone and similar chemicals have been in additives for a while, but tell me why not in the main gas supply? And don't shout because "The big bad oil companies want to keep making money"

You just don't get it and you can't stand anyone disagreeing with you...

Thanks, rlith. I won't be trying it. I would much rather take the advice of someone who knows what they are talking about, instead of some one who trys something once and then thinks that they are an expert.

Now I will sit back and wait to be called childish, inmature and threatened with a ban, before this thread gets locked as does all the other ones that BlazerLT is proven wrong in.

Wow, you worked with Acetone, so therefore you know everything that it will do in an engine.

sorry, you are right it is not a theory, it is a hypothesis.

hy·poth·e·sis (hī-pŏth'ĭ-sĭs)

- A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.
- Something taken to be true for the purpose of argument or investigation; an assumption.
- The antecedent of a conditional statement.

You are stating that your HYPOTHESIS is actual theory and WILL happen. Also known as fact. But as any scientist will know, you have to PROVE you HYPOTHESIS for it to be claimed FACT and THEORY.

That was my mistake to use the wrong word, my apologies.

But until you back you hypothesis in this application, it has zero merit and is just your educated opinion which cannot be mistaken for fact because it isn't.

Your first post in this thread was pointless and has no hard scientific evidence to back it.

I am not trying to state I am right or wrong here, I am posting my results and I am protecting the readers from naive nay-sayings that again "DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO TRY IT THEMSELVES".

So again......

Try it, other than that, you can't prove ANYTHING.

I have the numbers right here, you just have your textbook.

Thanks, rlith. I won't be trying it. I would much rather take the advice of someone who knows what they are talking about, instead of some one who trys something once and then thinks that they are an expert.

Now I will sit back and wait to be called childish, inmature and threatened with a ban, before this thread gets locked as does all the other ones that BlazerLT is proven wrong in.

:lol:

Better yet, I will sticky it.

:lol:

Better yet, I will sticky it.

:lol:

After reading all of this.....trying to take it all in..........here is my conclusion on all of this......... I need a beer, who is joing me?:screwy:

honestly, either way, do you research.

Don't believe me or Rlith, educate yourself and make your own choices.

I am posting my actual results and I will be continuing this test for a while. This won't be based off of "one tank" as Blazee said.

Wow, you worked with Acetone, so therefore you know everything that it will do in an engine.

sorry, you are right it is not a theory, it is a hypothesis.

hy·poth·e·sis (hī-pŏth'ĭ-sĭs)

- A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.
- Something taken to be true for the purpose of argument or investigation; an assumption.
- The antecedent of a conditional statement.

You are stating that your HYPOTHESIS is actual theory and WILL happen. Also known as fact. But as any scientist will know, you have to PROVE you HYPOTHESIS for it to be claimed FACT and THEORY.

That was my mistake to use the wrong word, my apologies.

But until you back you hypothesis in this application, it has zero merit and is just your educated opinion which cannot be mistaken for fact because it isn't.

Your first post in this thread was pointless and has no hard scientific evidence to back it.

I am not trying to state I am right or wrong here, I am posting my results and I am protecting the readers from naive nay-sayings that again "DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO TRY IT THEMSELVES".

So again......

Try it, other than that, you can't prove ANYTHING.

I have the numbers right here, you just have your textbook.


How is it a hypothosis when it's BEEN TRIED BY THE OIL COMPANIES AND WORKED WITH BY SCIENTISTS FOR DECADES! My god you can be really dense.

As to being an expert with the stuff, I'm damn well an expert considering I had to work with it and other chemicals in similar make up for a living. You can't apply something without knowing the chemical makeup...

ONCE AGAIN ALL TOGETHER NOW! THE GAS COMPANIES AND OTHERS HAVE "ALREADY SHOWN" WHAT LONG TERM USE OF ACETONE CAN DO!!!!! ARRRRRG!

Take a piece of plastic or rubber, drop it into a jar of acetone....Wait a week, see what happenes...

Stop believeing everything you read on the web, that way lays madness. Pick up a book, go to school, work with the stuff in a practical application on a long term basis and come back then. Go west young man and prove decades worth of scientific FACT wrong and make them bow to your superior intelligence..

After that, please see a therapist for your inferiority complex.

After reading all of this.....trying to take it all in..........here is my conclusion on all of this......... I need a beer, who is joing me?:screwy:
Cheers man!

How is it a hypothosis when it's BEEN TRIED BY THE OIL COMPANIES AND WORKED WITH BY SCIENTISTS FOR DECADES! My god you can be really dense.

Really, where? Like to see these studies. You say they exist but they are no where to be found.

You are claiming backup from something that does not exist.

BTW, thanks for the insult.

As to being an expert with the stuff, I'm damn well an expert considering I had to work with it and other chemicals in similar make up for a living. You can't apply something without knowing the chemical makeup...

ONCE AGAIN ALL TOGETHER NOW! THE GAS COMPANIES AND OTHERS HAVE "ALREADY SHOWN" WHAT LONG TERM USE OF ACETONE CAN DO!!!!! ARRRRRG!

Again where? I don't see it and no one has heard of it.

Where is this evidence you claim? Where is it? Hmmm..... If I claimed that it existed, I sure as hell would have it handy.

Take a piece of plastic or rubber, drop it into a jar of acetone....Wait a week, see what happenes...

It already has been done. Visit the first link in my first post. People have soaked all rubber and plastic materials in 100% pure acetone for months and haven't seen any damage. So how can such a small concentration in fuel cause these HORRIBLE claims you are bringing up.

That's right, they dont exist.

On the other hand, look up toluene and xylene which are paint thinners and are used in the oil refineries for an octane additive.

OMG THEY ARE PAINT THINNERS!!!!!! THEY WILL MELT EVERYTHING INTO THIN AIR! OMG!!!!!!1111ONEone

Again, you are wrong, most if not all octane boosters and additives are powerful solvents and they are IN YOUR FUEL RIGHT NOW!!!

Stop believeing everything you read on the web, that way lays madness. Pick up a book, go to school, work with the stuff in a practical application on a long term basis and come back then. Go west young man and prove decades worth of scientific FACT wrong and make them bow to your superior intelligence..

:lol: Ok moses, I will believe your superior chemical specialist network engineer educational accomplishments.

After that, please see a therapist for your inferiority complex.

Ah, there again, another insult. Again you are a hypocit.

I dunno - take a chance on ruining my engine for a possible quick fix or put my trust in the educated and have a reliable vehicle?? Tough choice... Nuttin like the bully on the block. I predict the next post will be a retort followed by locking of the thread. It's good to be the king...

I dunno - take a chance on ruining my engine for a possible quick fix or put my trust in the educated and have a reliable vehicle?? Tough choice... Nuttin like the bully on the block. I predict the next post will be a retort followed by locking of the thread. It's good to be the king...

Nope...No point in arguing with a kid anymore..(I should learned that a few posts back...) His entire attitude is why he's been banned from other places (mention his name at s10planet and a couple of the other boards) Hopefully he won't believe stricnine in large doses is harmful and will try ingesting it just to prove it isn't..(grin)

Since he's been a mod here, he feels that he can attack anyone with impunity and spit vitrol with no recourse. This is his pattern and I doubt he will ever change...He can't deal with viewpoints other than his own nor even when something is shown to him, it doesn't get through. I swear it's almost like a form of autism...damn borderlining on assbergers (no pun intended) I'm too old to be arguing with kids and I kick myself for not stoping several posts ago..Shrug... I'm moving on.. he can win (or let himself feel like he did) Back to helping people..

P.S. he probably will shut down this thread... heh...We should get a pool going on it! LOL..

Note: For the record this particular post is my opinion and my opinion only and non intended to be taken as scientific fact, just on experienced speculation...

I dunno - take a chance on ruining my engine for a possible quick fix or put my trust in the educated and have a reliable vehicle?? Tough choice... Nuttin like the bully on the block. I predict the next post will be a retort followed by locking of the thread. It's good to be the king...

:lol:

Yea, I use acetone in a paint factory so therefore I know everything about it.

Go ahead, if you believe one "so called professional" over the 1000s of documented pages on this, then that is your choice.

The thing is , I have actual proof it works. And the last thing was, my engine didn't die.

And to the last comment, I am NOT going to let naive pussies that are too chicken to try it themselves fill this thread with their baseless scared garbage.

Everything they have clamined that happns does not.

Nope...No point in arguing with a kid anymore..(I should learned that a few posts back...) His entire attitude is why he's been banned from other places (mention his name at s10planet and a couple of the other boards) Hopefully he won't believe stricnine in large doses is harmful and will try ingesting it just to prove it isn't..(grin)

:lol: yea, the EGR mods retailers that didn't like the fact that their device they were selling was bad. They didn't like me bringing that up so they banned me.

To date, no other sites anywhere else so I don't know where you are getting that from.

Since he's been a mod here, he feels that he can attack anyone with impunity and spit vitrol with no recourse. This is his pattern and I doubt he will ever change...He can't deal with viewpoints other than his own nor even when something is shown to him, it doesn't get through. I swear it's almost like a form of autism...damn borderlining on assbergers (no pun intended) I'm too old to be arguing with kids and I kick myself for not stoping several posts ago..Shrug... I'm moving on.. he can win (or let himself feel like he did) Back to helping people..

Oh, like when myself and others created threads on how the EGR mod was not working and you and your friends came in saying how we were all wrong and starting insulting us?

Yea, you can talk can't you.

People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

P.S. he probably will shut down this thread... heh...We should get a pool going on it! LOL..

Note: For the record this particular post is my opinion and my opinion only and non intended to be taken as scientific fact just on experienced speculation...

Nope, I am doing neither and it is stickied.

Oh look, he now states his "professional educational chemistry fact and knowledge" is now speculation.

Face it, you can't prove anything you stated in this thread can you. You have not ONE shread of evidence.

Here, let's recap:

It will destroy rubber and plastic: Nope.
It will carbon up your engine: Nope, if so, all 91 octane fuel would too.

You have a nack of disregarding things that you cannot prove.

Like:

The oil industry tested Acetone: You have no proof

Now what about berrymans Chemtool B12. Its' active ingredients are acetone AND xylene and people have been using it for YEARS without any problems and have seen good results.

FOR STARTERS I AM THAT IGNORANT ASSHOLE.

After reading all of this.....trying to take it all in..........here is my conclusion on all of this......... I need a beer, who is joing me?:screwy:
I would but am not of age yet see me in 3 years then i can cheers unless were having root beer then im game lol.


Ah, there again, another insult. Again you are a hypocit.
Wow im surprised your not a bigot yet Rlith.This seems so eerily similar to the other night.

Nope...No point in arguing with a kid anymore..(I should learned that a few posts back...) His entire attitude is why he's been banned from other places (mention his name at s10planet and a couple of the other boards) Hopefully he won't believe stricnine in large doses is harmful and will try ingesting it just to prove it isn't..(grin)

Since he's been a mod here, he feels that he can attack anyone with impunity and spit vitrol with no recourse. This is his pattern and I doubt he will ever change...He can't deal with viewpoints other than his own nor even when something is shown to him, it doesn't get through. I swear it's almost like a form of autism...damn borderlining on assbergers (no pun intended) I'm too old to be arguing with kids and I kick myself for not stoping several posts ago..Shrug... I'm moving on.. he can win (or let himself feel like he did) Back to helping people..

P.S. he probably will shut down this thread... heh...We should get a pool going on it! LOL..

Note: For the record this particular post is my opinion and my opinion only and non intended to be taken as scientific fact, just on experienced speculation...


Once again,lol my point exactly.

Kool im at the bottom again.

How can something with what you describe as octane 150 be good for a motor tuned on 87 octane?

I can see running 93 through it once and awhile helps like a Lucas fuel cleaner.

FOR STARTERS I AM THAT IGNORANT ASSHOLE.


I would but am not of age yet see me in 3 years then i can cheers unless were having root beer then im game lol.


Wow im surprised your not a bigot yet Rlith.This seems so eerily similar to the other night.




Once again,lol my point exactly.

Kool im at the bottom again.

How can something with what you describe as octane 150 be good for a motor tuned on 87 octane?

I can see running 93 through it once and awhile helps like a Lucas fuel cleaner.

Please grow up. You already ruined the off topic thread for everyone due to your racist "sand nigger" thoughts and comments you made there, you don't have to keep on acting like a child.

Acetone has an octane value of 150 which in its small dose won't affect the octane rating of the fuel that much at all.

Please grow up. You already ruined the off topic thread for everyone due to your racist "sand nigger" thoughts and comments you made there, you don't have to keep on acting like a child.

Acetone has an octane value of 150 which in its small dose won't affect the octane rating of the fuel that much at all.


OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you said "sand nigger" im gonna tell your mommy.I believe i have explained to you , and 5 other people who inquired my viewpoint why i felt that way.And get this buddy everybody said to me i can understand why you felt that way because of your loss in that just next time better choice of words.

http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html

I was given that from a dearly departed member of this thread who cared not to argue any longer.Describes your syndrome to a t.

OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you said "sand nigger" im gonna tell your mommy.I believe i have explained to you , and 5 other people who inquired my viewpoint why i felt that way.And get this buddy everybody said to me i can understand why you felt that way because of your loss in that just next time better choice of words.

http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html

I was given that from a dearly departed member of this thread who cared not to argue any longer.Describes your syndrome to a t.

No, I didn't say it, I was quoting you. But seeing I was being nice and allowed you to break the rules without any serious results, you now are mocking me?

Ok, have it your way, you have been submitted to the administration for review. I was being cool about it but seeing you are pulling attitude, you will be dealt with.

Just because of the 9/11 disaster does not mean you have to coe in here and spread hate and racism due to your ignorance. And as you see, I was not the only one who took offense to it.

And thanks for going offtopic in this thread.

Okay back on topic:
If anyone wants to know the compatibilty of acetone with different materials, you can look it up here:

http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/chemcomp.asp

Be sure to check out the effect acetone has on rubber. Also make sure to read the affect on Vitron. Know why these two are important? Because these two things are what GM fuel pulsators are made of, the early ones are made of rubber and the newer ones are made of Vitron. The fuel pulsator is what connects your fuel pump to the metal lines. If you add acetone to your tank, your pulsator will be soaking in acetone, because as said previously the acetone will float in gas.

Is the price of a fuel pump assembly worth the temporary gain in MPG? Not to me.

I am on the 6th beer now, reading this thread is like watching a god damn soap opera, it is actually pretty entertaining! Someone in this thread is eventually going to get beaten like a red headed step child!

Anyway from the research I have been doing on this topic all I get is mixed reviews. Almost 50/50. I guess if you want to do it, after all that you have read good and bad be my guest, post your results. If you get better gas mileage, that's great! If your engine blows up or melts down, that's great too! Only because we will all now know to either do it or not. So either do it or don't. It is really that simple! But everyone keep bitching and complaining, please! Cause this was a boring Thursday night but not anymore. This is like an episode of the realword. Happy fighting fellas

Okay back on topic:
If anyone wants to know the compatibilty of acetone with different materials, you can look it up here:

http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/chemcomp.asp

Be sure to check out the effect acetone has on rubber. Also make sure to read the affect on Vitron. Know why these two are important? Because these two things are what GM fuel pulsators are made of, the early ones are made of rubber and the newer ones are made of Vitron. The fuel pulsator is what connects your fuel pump to the metal lines. If you add acetone to your tank, your pulsator will be soaking in acetone, because as said previously the acetone will float in gas.

Is the price of a fuel pump assembly worth the temporary gain in MPG? Not to me.

Also, those results are when the component is exposed to 100% acetone, and not the 0.234% we are using in this application.

That is right, the total concentration is 0.234% acetone in your tank which is less concentration than some other chemicals in your fuel.

Results of common octane additives:

Xylene:

Rubber: D-Severe Effect
Viton: B = Good -- Minor Effect, slight corrosion
or discoloration.

Toluene:

Rubber:D-Severe Effect
Viton: C-Fair

Acetone:

Rubber: C-Fair
Viton: D-Severe Effect

so as you see, the normal octane additives that are used in HIGHER concentrations in todays gas have the SAME relative affects on these components than acetone.

So from what you are telling us, you are saying we should not even put normal gas from the pump in our tanks and fuel systems seeing they are in much higher concentrations than acetone and have the same affects.

I really appreciate the site you posted, you have proven my point for me :lol:

I am serious, the normal stuff in todays gas is more harmful than the acetone you are putting in and the acetone is only coming in at a concentration of 0.234%. Toluene and Xylene are in much higher concentrations than that.

The new ones are made from viton now because the old ones (made from rubber) were being destroyed by gasoline.

The numbers you posted show why they had to change... because the additive were destroying the pulsators. Notice that the new Viton pulsators are resistant to the additives that were damaging them before. Now notice that acetone is severely damaging to the new Viton pulsators.

Thank you for posting those other numbers because you have proven my point. GM had to switch to the new Viton pulsators because it was proven that soaking the old material in a D rated substance will destroy it. If you add acetone to your fuel, you are exposing the new viton pulsator to a d rated substance, this has proven to cause damage.

The new ones are made from viton now because the old ones (made from rubber) were being destroyed by gasoline.

The numbers you posted show why they had to change... because the additive were destroying the pulsators. Notice that the new Viton pulsators are resistant to the additives that were damaging them before. Now notice that acetone is severely damaging to the new Viton pulsators.

Thank you for posting those other numbers because you have proven my point. GM had to switch to the new Viton pulsators because it was proven that soaking the old material in a D rated substance will destroy it. If you add acetone to your fuel, you are exposing the new viton pulsator to a d rated substance, this has proven to cause damage.

lol, no

You see, it is all about concentrations. You will see the same damage from more of a moderately damaging component in higher concentration than acetone in a tiny concentration like 0.234%

So you think acetone in 0.234% concentration is going to hurt things? lol, I don't think so.

But thanks for letting people know that these results are actually at 100% concentration and thanks for leaving out other important information to bias your claim.

Essentially, again, the components in gasoline now are more harmfull than the acetone you are putting in.

Gasoline contains 10.43% Toluene and 5.27% Xylene which is more harmful than 0.234% acetone.

Compare the numbers and you will see that claiming that such a small concentration will ruin things is flat out ridiculous, comical and borderline laughable. :lol:

I dont know how you were being cool about it seeing as after i apologized to you i was called even more of a bigot and racist.

On topic again i too have done some research on it got some good sites amassed.About 25/75 the quarter who did it said better fuel economy but the other 75 say it didnt work or they had less fuel economy in the end so i really dont know

I dont know how you were being cool about it seeing as after i apologized to you i was called even more of a bigot and racist.

On topic again i too have done some research on it got some good sites amassed.About 25/75 the quarter who did it said better fuel economy but the other 75 say it didnt work or they had less fuel economy in the end so i really dont know

Again, you are going off topic. I don't care about your excuses so be quiet about it. It is already being handled by the administration. I gave you a chance and you mocked me.

I am sorry, but saying 75% got worse economy is bullcrap. Some see no improvement, some see some improvement, and a small amount see a loss.

Also believe that when you say all the people who called you out on this i believe the number is 2.You and blazee,we have talked and it doesnt bother him as much since he understands where i come from.Personally i think he can give a rats ass what i think then i see you on there 3 times and i believe thats when you decided in your head this is my time to close this thread which i didnt start because i have not liked it since the start because i did not think of it and there it went.Also i have said to you and others that had asked it would have been deleted and had asked would have said rite there what my point was to come out with that.Never asked to delete other apologies have been accepted by others you still the hardass even after i sent my apology north so i give up with you.In my eyes,your nothing more than a big dickhead and i could care less anymore,if its trucks sure ill give you that you know what your talking about but with opinions viewpoints if they dont agree with you or you dont like them its to hell with them im blazerlt i have the moderator tag under my name i must be right since i have the moderator tag under my name.

"Leaving out that it was 100% acetone"

:lol: I said "acetone". Acetone = 100%. If it would have been anything other than 100% it would be an acetone solution.

Let me clear this up before I join rlith on the sidelines laughing at you trying to justify doing damage to your Blazer.

100% Viton + 100% Unleaded Gasoline = 100% A = 100% Excellent

100% Viton + 100% Acetone = 100% D = 100% Severe Effect, not recommended for ANY use.

Will it be exposed to 100% acetone? No of course not

Will it be exposed to higher concentrations of acetone? Yes, because acetone floats, and the concentration will get higher the longer you use it, unless you run you tank completely dry.

Will I add acetone to my tank? no

Will anybody that gathers solid info, add it to their tank? No

Will you try to deny the facts posted? yes

Are you defending this because you don't want to admit that you were wrong and promoted something harmful? Yes

Should this whole thing have been posted in the orginal thread instead of starting a new? Yes, others get yelled at all the time for starting new threads about existing ones.

Also believe that when you say all the people who called you out on this i believe the number is 2.You and blazee,we have talked and it doesnt bother him as much since he understands where i come from.Personally i think he can give a rats ass what i think then i see you on there 3 times and i believe thats when you decided in your head this is my time to close this thread which i didnt start because i have not liked it since the start because i did not think of it and there it went.Also i have said to you and others that had asked it would have been deleted and had asked would have said rite there what my point was to come out with that.Never asked to delete other apologies have been accepted by others you still the hardass even after i sent my apology north so i give up with you.In my eyes,your nothing more than a big dickhead and i could care less anymore,if its trucks sure ill give you that you know what your talking about but with opinions viewpoints if they dont agree with you or you dont like them its to hell with them im blazerlt i have the moderator tag under my name i must be right since i have the moderator tag under my name.

Again, offtopic.

Submitted for ban.

Again, you are going off topic. I don't care about your excuses so be quiet about it. It is already being handled by the administration. I gave you a chance and you mocked me.
.

So you want me to be quiet because you know that i am correct in that i offered my apology but you were too man to accept it i see.

ok, first i appologize for off-topic, but you guys are getting too heated.

things that are GOOD with viton
Isopropyl, Alcohols:Propyl, Ammonium Carbonate, Antifreeze, BEER (i swear), Catsup, Grape Juice, Kerosene
BAD: Ammonia- liquid, Diethyl Ether- Sulfide
again sorry, but you guys need to chill for a bit.

"Leaving out that it was 100% acetone"

:lol: I said "acetone". Acetone = 100%. If it would have been anything other than 100% it would be an acetone solution.

Then please say that instead of saying acetone + this = bad when you don't even point out concentrations.

Let me clear this up before I join rlith on the sidelines laughing at you trying to justify doing damage to your Blazer.

100% Viton + 100% Unleaded Gasoline = 100% A = 100% Excellent

100% Viton + 100% Acetone = 100% D = 100% Severe Effect, not recommended for ANY use.

Wow, your math skills are GREAT!

If you think 100% unleaded gasoline has zero effect, than you need to go find out what is in gasoline.

Gasoline has 15%+ concentration of Toluene & Xylene which has a severe affect on rubber and fair affect on Viton.

Acetone in this application is 0.234% which again you are dancing around because you mind can wrap around the fact that toluene and Xylene in your gas right now has a 15% concentration compared to 0.234% of the acetone.

That is a 64X more toluene and xylene in your fuel than acetone. Yet you state that that tiney small dose of acetone makes everything eat everything.

You are wrong and you know it. Go ahead and dance around the numbers with pointless arguements.

You can't deny the numbers.

Will it be exposed to 100% acetone? No of course not

Then state that.

Will it be exposed to higher concentrations of acetone? Yes, because acetone floats, and the concentration will get higher the longer you use it, unless you run you tank completely dry.

Acetone does not float. Show me where Acetone will float on fuel. And seeing I only went down to 1/4 of a tank when I filled up to get my mileage, I wouldn't have even "supposedly" got to it but yet, hmmmmmm.... 3.1MPG increase........

Will I add acetone to my tank? no

Don't then. Waste money, I don't care. I will save money and have no ill affects.

Will anybody that gathers solid info, add it to their tank? No

You mean, will scared people with pointless and baseless information that don't know the concept of concentrations not add it to their tank, then yes, you are right.

I on the other hand won't be a pussy and with the knowledge in hand, no harm wil EVER come through this.

Will you try to deny the facts posted? yes

:lol::lol::lol: What FACTS, I threw every FACT right back in your face.

0.234% Acetone in a tank will kill EVERYTHING OMG!!!!!!111ONEone

Yet, there is 15% Toluene and Xylene mix in your tank right now which is chemically a lot more harmfull at their higher concentrations.

Are you defending this because you don't want to admit that you were wrong and promoted something harmful? Yes

Wow....... Don't start slamming it until you have tried it. You are just to gutless to try it yourself and make up bullcrap reasons why it won't work or be harmful when the informatio you supply literally blows up in your face and makes you look like a fool.

Should this whole thing have been posted in the orginal thread instead of starting a new? Yes, others get yelled at all the time for starting new threads about existing ones.

So I guess everyone that has a CPI problem should post ONLY in the first CPI thread? Wow, how BRILLIANT there. You are SO SMART!!!

How about I didn't post the original thread so therefore I am not going to whore it with my findings.

kthx........

To everyone else, look at the numbers and don't be sucked into the naive people's scare tactics.

0.234% will NOT harm ANYTHING.

There are studies already done where people soaked Viton and Rubber in 100% Acetone for months and nothing happened to the samples.

These are the same bull that people use to say about synthetic oil for our engines as well which turned out to be a completely myth. Don't listen to the people posting their opinions, believe the people who have actually tried it whether thay got a gain or not.

I will continue the test to prove this and I am not a risk taker by any means..

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I will continue the test to prove this and I am not a risk taker by any means..

Hey! I'm doin this too! Wow... I'm exhausted from this thread already... and I'm just sitting here reading...

I'm a risk taker, and what can happen, noting worse than what the fule we already use gums up our egr valves, old hoses, regular maintainence, it's all good. Took some spare parts and shoved them into jars with acetone, marked the date and time, and will check from time to time.

*shrugs* experiment, they said man could never walk on the moon... and a few other things...

~Xpc

Hey! I'm doin this too! Wow... I'm exhausted from this thread already... and I'm just sitting here reading...

I'm a risk taker, and what can happen, noting worse than what the fule we already use gums up our egr valves, old hoses, regular maintainence, it's all good. Took some spare parts and shoved them into jars with acetone, marked the date and time, and will check from time to time.

*shrugs* experiment, they said man could never walk on the moon... and a few other things...

~Xpc

This is true, the fuel you are putting into your tank is chemically more harmful to runner and viton than the 0.234% acetone you are pouring in it.

I can pour that concentration of maple syrup into my gas tank and it won't harm anything.

Keep us updating on your findings. Hell, take pictures for us.

Then please say that instead of saying acetone + this = bad when you don't even point out concentrations.

Take a look back.... in the post that you're talking about all I did was gave a link and said look it up. I never said "acetone + this = bad" that came later, when I simplified the information so that you could understand.

Wow, your math skills are GREAT!

If you think 100% unleaded gasoline has zero effect, than you need to go find out what is in gasoline.

Gasoline has 15%+ concentration of Toluene & Xylene which has a severe affect on rubber and fair affect on Viton.

Acetone in this application is 0.234% which again you are dancing around because you mind can wrap around the fact that toluene and Xylene in your gas right now has a 15% concentration compared to 0.234% of the acetone.

That is a 64X more toluene and xylene in your fuel than acetone. Yet you state that that tiney small dose of acetone makes everything eat everything.

You are wrong and you know it. Go ahead and dance around the numbers with pointless arguements.

You can't deny the numbers. Well, check the numbers. That link has information about unleaded gas, see for yourself the effect that it has. It plainly says A excellent.


Acetone does not float. Show me where Acetone will float on fuel. And seeing I only went down to 1/4 of a tank when I filled up to get my mileage, I wouldn't have even "supposedly" got to it but yet, hmmmmmm.... 3.1MPG increase........
rlith has already explained this to you, but in typical BlazerLT fashion, you ignore it.


Don't then. Waste money, I don't care. I will save money and have no ill affects.
:lol: you just wrap yourself up in that lie like a warm blanket, and try to sleep well at night.


You mean, will scared people with pointless and baseless information that don't know the concept of concentrations not add it to their tank, then yes, you are right.

I on the other hand won't be a pussy and with the knowledge in hand, no harm wil EVER come through this.

No I mean people that do research and take advice from other people with more experience.

The people who believe the first thing they read and then refuse to comprehend anything else about the subject, will without a doubt give it a shot.

You can't say that no harm will come from this because you don't know. The acetone destroying the pulsator is just one concern. There are many others as rlith pointed out.


:lol::lol::lol: What FACTS, I threw every FACT right back in your face.

0.234% Acetone in a tank will kill EVERYTHING OMG!!!!!!111ONEone

Yet, there is 15% Toluene and Xylene mix in your tank right now which is chemically a lot more harmfull at their higher concentrations.


Wow....... Don't start slamming it until you have tried it. You are just to gutless to try it yourself and make up bullcrap reasons why it won't work or be harmful when the informatio you supply literally blows up in your face and makes you look like a fool.


All the facts that I posted still stand, just because you choose to ignore them doesn't make them go away.

So I guess everyone that has a CPI problem should post ONLY in the first CPI thread? Wow, how BRILLIANT there. You are SO SMART!!!

How about I didn't post the original thread so therefore I am not going to whore it with my findings.

kthx........ Well, half the people who replace their CPIs here don't actually have a problem, they do it because of bad advice from you. About the ones that do have a problem, they don't know that the CPI is the cause until after they start their threads and get told to search for CPI and Nut Kit. (which is a bad idea because now most of the search results are just you saying search for CPI and Nut Kit) You on the other hand knew about the subject that you were posting and that a previous thread existed and even located the thread so that you could post a link, but didn't post in the original thread.


I'm done wasting my time with you, because I know that it will never stop. You will just try twisting my words around and continue posting BS trying to justify your mistake and expect me to keep posting the same information over and over so that you can ignore it...... I know how this works I've seen you do it many times.

So for anyone reading this, just read what I have written, and don't buy into BlazerLT's twisted interpretation of what I have said.

I hesitate to even join in here, but what the heck.

I have gone on record in other posts and threads regarding crankcase additives and the possible consequences associated with their use. I am square against using ANY type of additive without thoroughly researching and understanding what it will do to the vehicle.

I have relatives in Missouri that swear by adding Brake fluid to a leaking Automatic transmission you can stop the leaks, I’ve watched them do it, and it didn’t work. I have also seen people on this very Forum that claimed that they added Muratic swimming pool acid to their radiators to descale them, and I'm sure the list could go on and on.

If you look at the gasoline industry going back a few years, most of the bigger companies like Chevron have blitzed the market with their advertising about how their fuels clean your engines and improve your performance. I gotta believe rlith that if acetone is/was pure sunshine in a can, a miracle drug for your tired old engine, and safe as mother’s milk, that someone would have added it their gasoline commercially by now just to get the edge on the competition.

I won’t be adding Acetone to my gas tank. Not because I am a pussy, chicken or have no balls, its because I have learned valuable lessons in the past about trying to out smart the boys in Detroit, and I’ve paid dearly for it. With last night’s fill-up I’m getting 18.5 MPG in my 2000 Jimmy, and I cannot afford to gamble with my truck.

Take a look back.... in the post that you're talking about all I did was gave a link and said look it up. I never said "acetone + this = bad" that came later, when I simplified the information so that you could understand.

No you didn't, you just posted biased information with no representation to conentrations and you did even post what harmful things were already in your gasoline.

Well, check the numbers. That link has information about unleaded gas, see for yourself the effect that it has. It plainly says A excellent.

MAYBE IF I TYPE IN BIG LETTERS YOU BRAIN WILL SEE THAT UNLEADED GASOLINE IS MADE OF 15%+ OF A MIXTURE OF TOLUENE AND XYLENE WHICH HARM RUBBER SEVERELY AND ALSO ARE PERFECTLY SAFE FOR VITON.

UNLEADED GAS IS NOT JUST UNLEADED GAS, IT IS A MIXTURE OF CLOSE TO 30-50 CHEMICALS.

THE 0.234% OF ACETONE YOU ARE ADDING HAS BEEN PROVEN NOT TO DO ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. YES, 0.234% VERSUS 15% WHICH IS IN YOUR FUEL FROM THE PUMP. TAKE THE CALCULATOR OUT AND CRUNCH THE NUMBERS.

IF YOU THINK 0.234% OF ACETONE IS GONING TO TURN GASOLINE INTO SOMETHING TERRIBLE AND HARMFUL, THEN YOU NEED TO LEARN THAT THAT IS 6 TABLESPOONS PER 10 GALLONS.

OMG! 6 TABLESPOONS AND THE GAS IS NOW DESTROYING EVERYTHING! omg!!!! :EEK::EEK:

rlith has already explained this to you, but in typical BlazerLT fashion, you ignore it.

I don't ignore it, I don't listen to network administrators that also claim to be a chemical professional and back themselves with a bunch of bull that doesn't exist like the oil industry testing this out when he doesn't have a shread of evidence that they did test it. If he was this so-called chemical engineer, he would also know that 0.234% will not harm anything.

:lol: you just wrap yourself up in that lie like a warm blanket, and try to sleep well at night.

Hey, no problem, will do that knowing that I am saving money and doing no harm and actually cleaning my fuel system in the same treatment.


No I mean people that do research and take advice from other people with more experience.

The people who believe the first thing they read and then refuse to comprehend anything else about the subject, will without a doubt give it a shot.

Hypocrit, I am not believing one person, but over 200-300 pages I have read on the subject. But you believing rlith means you sure the hell are believing one person.

You can't say that no harm will come from this because you don't know. The acetone destroying the pulsator is just one concern. There are many others as rlith pointed out.

Wow, again you forget that the 15% toluene and Xylene have a more harmful effect seeing they are in a concentration 64x that of the acetone. But again you will tap dance around that seeing you are trying to down play that it is completely destroying your arguement.

All the facts that I posted still stand, just because you choose to ignore them doesn't make them go away.

What points? The thing is your facts have been thrown back into your face and have ripped your hypothesis apart. In essence, you have been ACETOWNED. :lol:

Seriously, you have just proven my point.

Well, half the people who replace their CPIs here don't actually have a problem, they do it because of bad advice from you. About the ones that do have a problem, they don't know that the CPI is the cause until after they start their threads and get told to search for CPI and Nut Kit. (which is a bad idea because now most of the search results are just you saying search for CPI and Nut Kit) You on the other hand knew about the subject that you were posting and that a previous thread existed and even located the thread so that you could post a link, but didn't post in the original thread.

:lol: yea, ok, yea, I have been a BAAD boy helping people with their CPI and telling them to search for other CPI threads where previous people have been already helped.

I'm done wasting my time with you, because I know that it will never stop. You will just try twisting my words around and continue posting BS trying to justify your mistake and expect me to keep posting the same information over and over so that you can ignore it...... I know how this works I've seen you do it many times.

Nah, face it, you can't take it when your own information has blown up in your face. You are getting all mad because face it, I am right and you posting that 0.234% is going to do any harm is completely false.

I am not going to back down and run away from this. You keep on dishing up the bullcrap excuses and I will continue to slap them down with your own information.

So for anyone reading this, just read what I have written, and don't buy into BlazerLT's twisted interpretation of what I have said.

If anyone is reading this, Blazee doesn't like when he shoots himself in his own foot with his own information and then goes on that I am supposedly "twisting the facts" when all I am doing is showing him that his own information is proving him wrong.

Do the research and try it out. These are the same kind of bullcrap arguements people were posing when I underwent my water cylinder decarbonizing that they said would "destroy my engine" and the Auto-RX treament which they said was "snake oil".

Both of those treatments wrks like a charm and I have the photos and pollution testing results to prove it. But again, all they will say is that I am wrong and they are too chicken to try it out due to their own naive ignorance.

I've never seen anything like this in an automotive discussion board before. Where else can someone read about chemistry, match, racism, and automotive theory in one forum? It's sad really.

There is a company out there that makes (or used to make) a product called XtraMPG - it was acetone. There are slews of other additives out there, it could be iced tea or whatever, who knows.

If someone is happy adding acetone to their fuel, then let them be happy. Me, I'll stick with whatever comes out the end of the gas pump. Might be gas, might be toulene, might be xylene, might be Boones Farm wine. If my car starts, runs well and goes down the road, I'm a happy man.

I've never seen anything like this in an automotive discussion board before. Where else can someone read about chemistry, match, racism, and automotive theory in one forum? It's sad really.

There is a company out there that makes (or used to make) a product called XtraMPG - it was acetone. There are slews of other additives out there, it could be iced tea or whatever, who knows.

If someone is happy adding acetone to their fuel, then let them be happy. Me, I'll stick with whatever comes out the end of the gas pump. Might be gas, might be toulene, might be xylene, might be Boones Farm wine. If my car starts, runs well and goes down the road, I'm a happy man.

:lol: you are right.

Berryman's Chemtool B12 is acetone based as well.

People are talking about it approaching 100% concentration.

It seems to me that running without acetone every three tanks or so would offset this problem.

As well, should one consider the problems with it separating like water and oil, he should also consider the fact that the suspension is maintained by constant mixing - otherwise known as road bumps.

I plan to try it. With gas going the way it is, fixing parts every few years (which would likely need serviced anyway) does not seem more expensive.

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