crazy f***ing kids these days

SOURCE: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/21/shootings.crash.ap/index.html

Police: Teen shooter dies in car crash

Wednesday, September 21, 2005; Posted: 2:13 p.m. EDT (18:13 GMT)

ELKHORN CITY, Kentucky (AP) -- A 17-year-old who was sent home from school for being intoxicated shot his parents and grandmother to death, then died in a crash after police attempted to pull him over on a highway, authorities said. Another driver also was killed.

The teen was identified Wednesday as Matthew Hackney of Elkhorn Creek, a senior at East Ridge High School who authorities said had never been in trouble. School officials said the student had taken prescription painkillers.

Hackney was cited for public intoxication at the school Tuesday and released to the custody of his parents, State Police Lt. Bobby Johnson said.

That afternoon, a friend of the youth notified authorities of the shootings.

"He just told me he killed them," Christa Coleman, 18, told the Lexington Herald-Leader. "He said they had caught him with drugs and weed at school today. They had a drug test and he failed it, and when they tried to arrest him, he ran."

She said Hackney asked her if he could hide out at her home for a few days "and I told him, 'No way."'

The bodies of Ivan Hackney, 47, Shirley Hackney, 44, and Wilma Hackney, 63, were found at the teen's home, Johnson said. Mike Maynard, a paramedic for the Elkhorn City Ambulance Service, said they were all shot multiple times, apparently with a large-caliber rifle.

Johnson said state troopers spotted Hackney on a highway and attempted to stop him, but Hackney lost control and crashed head-on into a pickup truck, killing Terry A. Taylor, 41, an Elkhorn City employee.

Pike County School Superintendent Frank Welch said the teen told an assistant principal that he had taken five Ultrams, a prescription painkiller. "I don't think at this point in time they know exactly where he got them," Welch said.

Hackney had never been in trouble at the school before, and students, teachers and administrators were devastated, Welch said.

"It's just a tragedy," Welch said. "When you talk to the teachers and the people who knew him, they say there wasn't a better student who ever went through that school than him."


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what the hell is up with crazy insano kids these days?

Drugs do nasty things to peoples minds.

....And their lives.

Stay off of drugs.

But they're still looking for who provided the ultrams...

That is the craziest shit... kills his parents and grandparent, then ends up dead in car wreck but of course an innocent person had to also die. WTF?!

im glad i've been clean of weed for a while, but in the UK when i did weed it was class C an if i was caught with an amount deemed "for personal use" i could only have it taken off me by the police. i dunno how it would make someone go so wrong though, an to kill your own family ? my greatest fear is that of my family being in danger.

i dont drink or smoke anymore, an feel better for it.

Sad and tragic.

That's horrible... :disappoin

i was on another forum and someone who had been prescribed ultram was talking about how they had seizures from taking the normal dosage. maybe there's something up with that painkiller that screws with your brain.

Yes, all his actions are easily explainable by drugs. Just ask the media or the government?


Lemmings.

I guess I will do the honors


Drugs are bad mkay.

Wow, thats pretty bad.

I don't think the mere act of smoking weed and taking painkillers which normal people take cause one to load up a gun and kill your parents. This dude was probably deranged and crazy

i cant read any more its upsettin me

He was probably so out of his mind because of the painkillers he had no idea what he was doing. Probably better that he died, cuz he probably would have killed himself once he became sober and learned what he had done.

SOURCE: "When you talk to the teachers and the people who knew him, they say there wasn't a better student who ever went through that school than him."

apparently they didn't really KNOW this kid. if he did something like that then he has some underlying motives, that what it seems like to me. who knows, maybe the drugs had something to do with, but i think that intoxicants will always bring up horrible feelings or motives. truly a tragedy.

That many painkillers would rip you up. And they have the word ultra in the name, that freaks me out. They also say he was intoxicated. Drunk, high, and plastered by pain pills. It was all probably like a bad dream to him.

Blaming drugs is like blaming Britan for World War 2.

Drugs didn't shoot those people, drugs didn't load the gun, and point it, drugs didn't allow guns to be accessed so freely. Drugs didn't pull the trigger.

Maybe the American government should wake up to them selves, we banned guns about 5 years ago, and we don't have this problem (and never have). Funny that...


"crazy fucking kids", how about "fucking dumb country with a stupid fucking government".

Blaming drugs is like blaming Britan for World War 2.

Drugs didn't shoot those people, drugs didn't load the gun, and point it, drugs didn't allow guns to be accessed so freely. Drugs didn't pull the trigger.

Maybe the American government should wake up to them selves, we banned guns about 5 years ago, and we don't have this problem (and never have). Funny that...


"crazy fucking kids", how about "fucking dumb country with a stupid fucking government".

I have to disagree about that one. Yes, it was the kid who took the drugs, but the drugs obviously altered his perception of reality. Chances are good if he wasnt tripping he wouldnt have thought of murdering his family. But the drugs fucked him up, and he did. Im not talking without experience either. I know the effects of drugs. Ive never bombed on painkillers, but Ive done some stuff that will make you lose all sense of what is going on. And if I snagged a gun and capped a friend, it would not really be me, but the drugs doing it. Like a different person, or version of a person.

Banning guns because of stuff like this would be like banning cars because of drunk drivings accidents.

Blaming drugs is like blaming Britan for World War 2.

Drugs didn't shoot those people, drugs didn't load the gun, and point it, drugs didn't allow guns to be accessed so freely. Drugs didn't pull the trigger.

Maybe the American government should wake up to them selves, we banned guns about 5 years ago, and we don't have this problem (and never have). Funny that...


"crazy fucking kids", how about "fucking dumb country with a stupid fucking government".
That's a complete and utter load of bollocks.

We are only slightly less harsh on guns than you are, but far stricter than America, yet we still get plenty of fuckin idiots loading themselves up on P (aka. Crystal Meth) and then cutting peoples hands off with swords or strolling into an RSA and beating three people to death and critically injuring another with thier bare hands and that's just the tip of the Ice berg.

So if we don't have guns, but allow drugs, yet still these murders happen, isn't it pretty obvious what's to blame?

Don't blame the fucking guns, blame the drugs.

Blaming drugs is like blaming Britan for World War 2.

Drugs didn't shoot those people, drugs didn't load the gun, and point it, drugs didn't allow guns to be accessed so freely. Drugs didn't pull the trigger.

Maybe the American government should wake up to them selves, we banned guns about 5 years ago, and we don't have this problem (and never have). Funny that...


"crazy fucking kids", how about "fucking dumb country with a stupid fucking government".
Precisely what I was saying without saying it, -Davo. Not too many people are awake enough on this forum to realise it though.

Your argument is completely valid BECAUSE people with underlying psychological problems are attracted to drugs to SELF MEDICATE, drugs do not cause normal people to do crazy shit like that NECCESARILY.

I'm sure just because the fool never got into any trouble at school doesn't mean he never had any psychological problems or any other types of issues.

I'm sure just because the fool never got into any trouble at school doesn't mean he never had any psychological problems or any other types of issues.


Yeah man, people act different in school than they do out of it. Many do anyway, not all.

i dont' know where everyone else went to highschool but there are typically way too many kids to get to know them all on a personal level. the kid killed his whole family, there's no way it can be pinned on smoking weed or taking painkillers. that kid was fucked in the head from day one, it's just that nobody noticed it 'til now.

Booze is better then drugs

I don't mind if people disagree with me, that's the whole reason I'm here (haha), it's the way I've been brought up, and taught in Australia, and my self education that I feel that way. We don't have guns here freely available to the public like America, we also don't have a gun problem. As much as I hate our government, the P.M's before this idiot did do this country a great thing by outlawing these, and other melee weapons (I've been playing too much World Of Warcraft), which is possibly the smartest thing any Govt. can do, which also happens to be not what the American Govt. are doing, and there are something like 12 thousand gun murders a year, we have like 40, the problem is obvious.

I can agree that drugs can make someone do something (like kill) when the person normally wouldn't do it, but if that person hadn't of taken the drugs in the first place it wouldn't of happened.

"Banning guns because of stuff like this would be like banning cars because of drunk drivings accidents."

I understand your point, but it still doesn't make any sense. I agree when you get in your car there is a great deal of risk you're taking, how do you know the guy coming the other way isn't drunk? Guns are designed to kill, that's their only purpose, there is a heavy differance between a gun designed to kill, and a car that can kill. Yes, the road tolls are up, accidents happen, murders arn't those types, what this kid did to his family was no accident.

You pick up a gun, what can you do with it? Peace of mind? Or kill someone? Are they the only two options?

You get into a car, what can you do with it? Peace of mind? Or run someone the fuck down? You don't get into a car souly to kill someone, although you don't buy a gun souly to kill someone, but I bet that's why the kid had the gun in the first place then.

I have friends who's dads have guns, two, actually, but they are not hiding under the bed, or up the top in dad's wardrobe, they're locked away in a safe, and they're not for hunting, they're for recrational use, and they have a licence for them. Which is what I guess a lot of Americans have guns for, which is also the reason why to an extent... this problem started.

Don't get offended by my point of view, please :p

What a tragic story

Very sad... being a teen sucks but man this kid was definatley f**ked up.

Let's not get into a gun debate because I think it'd be pointless. Besides, more people are killed every year by knives, baseball bats, clubs, ropes, ect than by guns. If you want to kill, you kill. Guns are just a tool.

Anyway, for the drug debate that's up in the air. They say he acted normal at school but did because of drugs.

An example that came to mind was Ted Bundy. He killed many people but at work and around friends we was the nicest guy and would do whatever to help them.

So was this kid a few cans short of a six-pack or was he just really high and drugged up?

Ultrams are pretty weak compared to other prescription pain killers. The kid obviously had issues prior to using. I've never heard of anybody killing somebody because they were stoned. Stoned and drunk... maybe, but not stoned from weed. "like, wow, dude, I'm so relaxed, let me load, like this gun, and like go kill my parents, dude..." I just don't see that happening...

In Amsterdam drugs are legal to an extent. I'm sure there is crime and murder there as well. It just seems that there are more fucked up people in this country. Apparently, Crystal Meth (aka. ice) is such a big problem that in NC, there is a 2 pack maximum of ephidrine and customers get logged. It's almost a stupid fashion to do drugs and to do them excessively. I'm glad I stopped all that stupid chemical shit. BTW, I've seen some fucked up things happen to good friends from pills. I'm talking about strong pills like oxycontin and xanax.

Yes, all his actions are easily explainable by drugs. Just ask the media or the government?


Lemmings.


my thoughts exactly.....

drugs are just an excuse, the kid was fuked up in the head

Yes, all his actions are easily explainable by drugs. Just ask the media or the government?


Lemmings.
Agreed

Fucking people who quote 'Drugs are bad m'kay' are becoming exactly the target of the South Park sarcasm. People just make a blanket general statement saying drugs = evil and everyone believes it.

I seriously doubt it was the painkillers and weed alone that made him go on a murder spree, that's a fucking ridiculous statement.

any normal person that took what he took would be conked out on the couch watching TV. go smoke some weed and take some painkillers and tell me how motivated you are to do anything, let alone go on a murderous rampage. that kids problems stem way further than his recreational drug use.

after that story, I think I'll pass on the alcohol, ultrams and blunts. thank you.


wait.. I wont pass on the alcohol and blunts.

my thoughts exactly.....

drugs are just an excuse, the kid was fuked up in the head


For all you stupid ass holes that don't know shit about this boy....you can all go to hell...Get your shit straight before you go writing stupid shit online....


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[quote=BP2K2Max]i dont' know where everyone else went to highschool but there are typically way too many kids to get to know them all on a personal level. the kid killed his whole family, there's no way it can be pinned on smoking weed or taking painkillers. that kid was fucked in the head from day one, it's just that nobody noticed it 'til now.[/


First of all coming from his ex girlfriend you dumb asses need to get a life instead of dwelling on shit you have no fucking clue about that you heard on the radio or in your newspaper, that shit only told half of the story so just go back to your normal boring ass lives and get your shit straight....

belinda

wait.. I wont pass on the alcohol and blunts.

lol me neigther :evillol:

by the way i dont think they have the video there anymore cause i couldnt watch it

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Seems like that member who brought it back is the idiot guy's ex girlfriend.

First of all coming from his ex girlfriend you dumb asses need to get a life instead of dwelling on shit you have no fucking clue about that you heard on the radio or in your newspaper, that shit only told half of the story so just go back to your normal boring ass lives and get your shit straight....

belinda
bitch, please. who's the one dwelling on shit? us? or you, the idiot bringing up a 6 month old thread about someone that no one cares about anymore. i had to re-read the whole thread just to know WTF you're talking about. your ex boyfriend was a nut case and appearantly so are you. deal with it.

First of all coming from his ex girlfriend you dumb asses need to get a life instead of dwelling on shit you have no fucking clue about that you heard on the radio or in your newspaper, that shit only told half of the story so just go back to your normal boring ass lives and get your shit straight....

belinda


:wtf: :thumbsdow :wtf: :dunno: :confused: :screwy:

First of all coming from his ex girlfriend you dumb asses need to get a life instead of dwelling on shit you have no fucking clue about that you heard on the radio or in your newspaper, that shit only told half of the story so just go back to your normal boring ass lives and get your shit straight....

belinda

Why don't you make yourself useful and go back to putting your legs behind you head?

YAY FOR NOOBS, please dont ressurect old threads

First of all coming from his ex girlfriend you dumb asses need to get a life instead of dwelling on shit you have no fucking clue about that you heard on the radio or in your newspaper, that shit only told half of the story so just go back to your normal boring ass lives and get your shit straight....belinda

I guess compared to a girl who dates psycho murdering drug addicts my life is boring.

Bullshit - he got caught with drugs and he's too fucking selfish and immature to take his punishment. Getting high then killing your parents, your grandmother and an innocent motorist while running from the police means that you are fucked up in the head. There's no excuse - all kinds of people have terrible problems and instead of getting high and killing people they try to get their lives straight. So everyone who has problems in their lives should just go out and kill people because it's easier than getting your shit together?

Were his parents abusing him? That might justify killing them if they were, but then he runs from the cops and kills an innocent bystander. You're so concerned about defending your psychotic ex-boyfriend, but have you done anything for the family of the motorist he killed? Have you contacted them to apoligize? Did you contact them to tell them your ex-boyfriend has problems he can't control and his dead victim is just shit-out-of-luck?

Go back to dating murderers...theres a serial killer in Daytona looking for a girl just like you.

Ibl

Go back to dating murderers...theres a serial killer in Daytona looking for a girl just like you.


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