2003 celica gt-s vs 2002 v6 mustang
lilpud
09-20-2005, 02:48 PM
ok i have a bet with this guy that has a 2003 manual gt-s celica bone stock. i have a 2002 manual v6 mustang with an intake and exhaust.
i was wanting some of ur thoughts on who might win in 1/8 and 1/4 mile......
i was wanting some of ur thoughts on who might win in 1/8 and 1/4 mile......
SiGNAL748
09-20-2005, 03:26 PM
GTS' can break into the 14's stock. I'm assuming a stock v6 mustang would run somewhere in the mid 15's. Hopefully those mods of yours helped.
Sounds like it'd be a driver's race to me. Good luck.
Sounds like it'd be a driver's race to me. Good luck.
clawhammer
09-20-2005, 03:39 PM
Celica should win as long as the guy knows how to drive.
CivRacer95
09-20-2005, 03:57 PM
Refer to this thread in the future if you have any more "who will win?" threads in mind:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=440474
Welcome to AF and the street racing section. :)
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=440474
Welcome to AF and the street racing section. :)
lilpud
09-20-2005, 03:57 PM
now if we go from a rollin start i no i will get him but off the line he is going to get the jump and i think thats the only thing that might hurt me
drftk1d
09-20-2005, 04:14 PM
i dunno...
just hope your not racing vip09 (is that his name?) he drives a stock celica and ran 14s
just hope your not racing vip09 (is that his name?) he drives a stock celica and ran 14s
clawhammer
09-20-2005, 04:14 PM
now if we go from a rollin start i no i will get him but off the line he is going to get the jump and i think thats the only thing that might hurt me
Actually it's the other way around. FWD vs. RWD.
Actually it's the other way around. FWD vs. RWD.
drdisque
09-20-2005, 06:48 PM
Ya, you would be better from a stop since you have more torque and are RWD. The Celica is only good at high revs. However, it has the same amount of power as you and weighs noticably less, unless he is a shitty driver, he should win.
TheStang00
09-20-2005, 07:31 PM
well your car runs a mid 15 stock, most of the time people say a gt-s runs a high 14 stock. idk how much your mods will help... but i think hes gonna win. keep us posted on the results im actually quite interested, seeing as how i have a v6 mustang. and hopefully this race happens... and your not just getting opinions
Ace$nyper
09-20-2005, 07:48 PM
bench racing eh?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Ace$nyper/wrong20forum.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Ace$nyper/wrong20forum.jpg
Kamilpl3
09-20-2005, 08:28 PM
i dunno...
just hope your not racing vip09 (is that his name?) he drives a stock celica and ran 14s
I feel like an ass, but did he really? Lol :icon16:
Back to the topic, your mods can help you out (if you know how to drive stick well)... Not saying that you cant, but still either way, my friend has a stock 02 gt-s, and its a pretty fast car... so I'm going to go with the celica... just because I dont really favour F.O.R.D's...
just hope your not racing vip09 (is that his name?) he drives a stock celica and ran 14s
I feel like an ass, but did he really? Lol :icon16:
Back to the topic, your mods can help you out (if you know how to drive stick well)... Not saying that you cant, but still either way, my friend has a stock 02 gt-s, and its a pretty fast car... so I'm going to go with the celica... just because I dont really favour F.O.R.D's...
GForce957
09-20-2005, 09:17 PM
celica takes the win
TheStang00
09-20-2005, 09:59 PM
bench racing eh?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Ace$nyper/wrong20forum.jpg
lol i was waiting for that ace... i knew it was coming
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Ace$nyper/wrong20forum.jpg
lol i was waiting for that ace... i knew it was coming
PWRDbyUNCLEbens
09-20-2005, 10:08 PM
FWD RWD who cares if your both underpowered? I've seen stock integras pull 2.0's at the race track, and rwd cars run consecutive 2.3's and 2.4's. Unless of course your all wheel drive then I don't think it's going to be much of an advantage on the street. Don't get me wrong RWD kills FWD on launches, but with as little power as you both have it won't matter much, I think its more up to the driver. BTW Id go with the gt-s.
Kamilpl3
09-20-2005, 10:14 PM
FWD RWD who cares if your both underpowered? I've seen stock integras pull 2.0's at the race track, and rwd cars run consecutive 2.3's and 2.4's. Unless of course your all wheel drive then I don't think it's going to be much of an advantage on the street. Don't get me wrong RWD kills FWD on launches, but with as little power as you both have it won't matter much, I think its more up to the driver. BTW Id go with the gt-s.
:1:
Well said.
:1:
Well said.
UnderEstimate Me
09-20-2005, 11:01 PM
How much did you bet???? :lol:
spyderturbo007
09-21-2005, 08:25 AM
The celica will eat you alive, been there, done that.
lilpud
09-21-2005, 01:29 PM
the bet was for 100 bux but yall have changed my mine alot. now i have beaten a 2004 man. v6 titburon and at a 70 mph rollin start i stay right beside gt mustangs till about 110..... but i have seen the way this kid drives and he drive ok but he isnt always consitain, but me not to brag or anything but i think i am alot better driver than he is but who isnt goin to say that ur not as good as a driver as someone else. ........but we are goin to run them tomarrow but i think we will just do it to see who wins . ill post the results later
Kamilpl3
09-21-2005, 02:52 PM
Stay even with GTs?
What car are you driving again?
What car are you driving again?
-Jayson-
09-21-2005, 03:00 PM
you might take him on the launch, cause those celica engines are high reving to make there power. BUt he will stomp you up top and in the long run.
Sleepr awd
09-21-2005, 03:32 PM
you might take him on the launch, cause those celica engines are high reving to make there power. BUt he will stomp you up top and in the long run.
:1:
:1:
GForce957
09-21-2005, 03:57 PM
Stay even with GTs?
What car are you driving again?
v6 mustang. He can stay sorta close for a bit, but he wont be even
What car are you driving again?
v6 mustang. He can stay sorta close for a bit, but he wont be even
lilpud
09-21-2005, 04:12 PM
no really i can stick right beside of them for a while until i hit 105/ 110 i thought it was weird as hell too but w/e
TheStang00
09-21-2005, 04:29 PM
top of 3rd gear (60-90) isnt bad in the v6... but i am also surprised by that... well post up those results, i think that gts is gonna beat you too tho...
lilpud
09-21-2005, 04:43 PM
well what i might have to do tomarrow before i run him is i might have to run up to the performance shop and throw some nitrous on it just to make sure i win. cuz i mean i have the money to shit i will probly chip it while im there cuz that damn speed limiter so if i do that then there will be no ?
i called them today and they said they could do all of that in about 2 hours soo whatevers whatever
i called them today and they said they could do all of that in about 2 hours soo whatevers whatever
GForce957
09-21-2005, 04:52 PM
dont do nitrous to win a bet
lilpud
09-21-2005, 04:58 PM
y not he didnt say we couldnt plus i might need it down the road u never no. but it would probly kill my motor cuz its kinda runnin lean plus i have a really big crack in my intake mainifold however u spell it. soooooo i dont think it would be good for my car lol.
Muscletang
09-21-2005, 05:03 PM
I will consider this one to be a driver's race. The Celica will edge out but if you drive it right you'll give him a really good run.
Kamilpl3
09-21-2005, 05:05 PM
well what i might have to do tomarrow before i run him is i might have to run up to the performance shop and throw some nitrous on it just to make sure i win. cuz i mean i have the money to shit i will probly chip it while im there cuz that damn speed limiter so if i do that then there will be no ?
i called them today and they said they could do all of that in about 2 hours soo whatevers whatever
Install a 200 shot and fry your engine!
Its the only way to go :thumbsup:
i called them today and they said they could do all of that in about 2 hours soo whatevers whatever
Install a 200 shot and fry your engine!
Its the only way to go :thumbsup:
lilpud
09-21-2005, 05:11 PM
no if i was goin to do it i was goin to run 100 or 125 shot
flatlander757
09-21-2005, 05:15 PM
Don't forget to upgrade the intake manifold so your floor doesn't fall out :rofl:
Muscletang
09-21-2005, 05:21 PM
Don't forget to upgrade the intake manifold so your floor doesn't fall out :rofl:
:owned:
:owned:
GForce957
09-21-2005, 05:26 PM
lilpud. Start small.
Gohan Ryu
09-21-2005, 06:06 PM
i called them today and they said they could do all of that in about 2 hours soo whatevers whatever
Whenever a performance shop tells you 2 hours it really means 2 days - all the good performance shops are too busy to work on your car as soon as you drive it in. Also, your car will need to be dynoed to get the best out of a chip - 2 hours no way.
Whenever a performance shop tells you 2 hours it really means 2 days - all the good performance shops are too busy to work on your car as soon as you drive it in. Also, your car will need to be dynoed to get the best out of a chip - 2 hours no way.
SiGNAL748
09-21-2005, 06:35 PM
no if i was goin to do it i was goin to run 100 or 125 shot
Yeah, you do that.
Yeah, you do that.
drdisque
09-21-2005, 07:36 PM
You have a damn good chance of running lean and frying a piston if you don't run direct port on that mustang with the way the intake manifold is laid out. Maybe you could get away with a 50 shot with no direct port. Also, you're going to have to run a wet kit too, since Split port V6 mustangs have returnless fuel systems. Also, to mount the bottle in the trunk, you have to drop the fuel tank to get access to run bolts into any holes you drill in the bottom of the trunk. It is WAYYYYY more than a 2 hour job. Me and 2 other guys were doing an install on one and it took us 6 hours to get the bottle mounted (in the back seat), solonoids mounted and wired and switches mounted (but not wired). That doesn't include running any of the line for the nitrous or installing the jets (which never got done btw)
Sleepr awd
09-21-2005, 08:05 PM
yeah, no "nos" man you might blow the welds on the intake, then me and the mad scientist .... :thumbsdown:
if you want something cheap and fast and have the money to blow GO GHETTO and buy some BFGoodrich kdw-2's and put them on the rear wheels, then break them in reallly quick and practice your launches, if you don't have the money for those, sumitomo HTR+'s are what i've used for better than stock traction
if you want something cheap and fast and have the money to blow GO GHETTO and buy some BFGoodrich kdw-2's and put them on the rear wheels, then break them in reallly quick and practice your launches, if you don't have the money for those, sumitomo HTR+'s are what i've used for better than stock traction
TheStang00
09-21-2005, 08:55 PM
well its only $100 right, thats probably less than a nitrous kit and def less than a new engine... just save up and get FI or build it N/A, dont go nitrous. unless of course you upgrade from your current set up
Zeiss
09-21-2005, 08:57 PM
maybe i am missing something...but the 3.8 mustang running 15s? uh dont they run 17s stock possibly high 16s?? 190hp ?
rice(er)
09-21-2005, 09:14 PM
gts runs high 14s :lol: this is a driver's race, my friend with a gts burns domestics all the time :) or...i think he's my cuzzin, :lol:
GForce957
09-21-2005, 10:55 PM
gts runs high 14s :lol: this is a driver's race, my friend with a gts burns domestics all the time :) or...i think he's my cuzzin, :lol:
So rice(er), i guess the question i want to ask you is...Are you from West Virginia?
So rice(er), i guess the question i want to ask you is...Are you from West Virginia?
Sleepr awd
09-21-2005, 11:59 PM
maybe i am missing something...but the 3.8 mustang running 15s? uh dont they run 17s stock possibly high 16s?? 190hp ?
the most recent former v6 mustangs w/ 5 speeds run 15's, mid-high normally right out of the box
the gen before than had only 150hp and run 17's and 16's stock, i can't even imagin how slow the auto version was
the most recent former v6 mustangs w/ 5 speeds run 15's, mid-high normally right out of the box
the gen before than had only 150hp and run 17's and 16's stock, i can't even imagin how slow the auto version was
Zeiss
09-22-2005, 07:23 AM
is his auto or manual?
Sleepr awd
09-22-2005, 09:27 AM
is his auto or manual?
both are manual...i know a guy w/ a 96 auto mustang v6 and its funny how much he believes his car is faster than mine
the GTS celica only comes in manual 6-speed to my knowledge
both are manual...i know a guy w/ a 96 auto mustang v6 and its funny how much he believes his car is faster than mine
the GTS celica only comes in manual 6-speed to my knowledge
TheStang00
09-22-2005, 09:54 AM
another completely useless post from ricer... christ
CivRacer95
09-22-2005, 10:24 AM
another completely useless post from ricer... christ
And this post wasn't either? ^ :biggrin:
I've raced quite a few of the V6 Stangs and it really isn't a contest for me. This coming from a mid 15 sec Civic owner. So, I see no doubt there for the Celica driver.
And this post wasn't either? ^ :biggrin:
I've raced quite a few of the V6 Stangs and it really isn't a contest for me. This coming from a mid 15 sec Civic owner. So, I see no doubt there for the Celica driver.
Twizted_3KGT
09-22-2005, 12:56 PM
Yeah GT-S will kick your ass. Have fun losin 100 bucks. I'll pray that he misses a gear for ya.
2000LS1Z28
09-22-2005, 03:10 PM
Good luck against his car, those Celicas can be nasty, especially if he has nitrous (Heard of one running 13's w/ a 75 shot as I recall). They only weigh 2500 pounds, and have as much power as your V6 stang. It's gonna be up to you to win it, as your car is down on power to him (Power to weight ratio). No biggie though, as everyone loses once in awhile, or all the time if you are me :p
drdisque
09-22-2005, 04:23 PM
also, they did sell Celica GTS's with automatics, no clue why you'd buy one though since all of the GTS's advantage over the GT comes at RPM's that tale the auto forever to reach.
Chiquae07
09-22-2005, 11:12 PM
yea, they did sell them with automatic. i have dibs on the gt-s. jsut hope he doesn't know where his powerband is and how high to actually go when shifting. just make sure u dont lose traction off the line otherwise u know u lost 100 bux right away.
and dont forget to double clutch and dont granny shift.....lol
and dont forget to double clutch and dont granny shift.....lol
spyderturbo007
09-23-2005, 11:08 AM
I have done this many times over. My wife drives a 2000 GTS 6-speed and my sister has a 2002 V6 Mustang 5-speed. Both my wife and I have run my sister multiple times and it is an ass raping.
Unless you get lucky and the guy in the Celica stalls at the line or shifts before the valve lift kicks in, you might as well give up.
Or, you can give me $50, I'll take you around back, kick you in the balls and we'll call it even.
That way you can save $50
Unless you get lucky and the guy in the Celica stalls at the line or shifts before the valve lift kicks in, you might as well give up.
Or, you can give me $50, I'll take you around back, kick you in the balls and we'll call it even.
That way you can save $50
Twizted_3KGT
09-23-2005, 11:14 AM
lol save 50 bucks haha.
TheStang00
09-23-2005, 12:32 PM
and dont forget to double clutch and dont granny shift.....lol
ok maybe your talking about something different than what im thinking of... but why the fuck would you double clutch while accelerating... infact why the fuck double clutch at all... thats what syncros are for.
also... results would be nice lilpud, this race was supposed to have happened already
ok maybe your talking about something different than what im thinking of... but why the fuck would you double clutch while accelerating... infact why the fuck double clutch at all... thats what syncros are for.
also... results would be nice lilpud, this race was supposed to have happened already
drftk1d
09-23-2005, 12:47 PM
ok maybe your talking about something different than what im thinking of... but why the fuck would you double clutch while accelerating... infact why the fuck double clutch at all... thats what syncros are for.
also... results would be nice lilpud, this race was supposed to have happened already
see: tt0232500 (http://imdb.com/title/tt0232500/)
also... results would be nice lilpud, this race was supposed to have happened already
see: tt0232500 (http://imdb.com/title/tt0232500/)
TheStang00
09-23-2005, 01:17 PM
:lol2: ^^
lilpud
09-23-2005, 01:50 PM
well we were goin to meet at the drag strip thursday night but guess who didnt show.......yup he sent one of his friends with a v6 tiburon with a big bore throtal body with a 6 speed trany in it. soo i said what the hell. the gt-s and the tiburon are just about the same if the tiburon isnt faster. well i knew that in the long run he was goin to get me soo i had all my hopes on the hole shot which i got. now this track is only an 1/8 of a mile. but never the less i beat him soooo the guy with the gt-s call me today and said wait till next thursday. soo i guess i will get the race the gt-s next week, but i beat the tiburon
Kamilpl3
09-23-2005, 01:53 PM
... Nice kill?
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