which pony car would u pick?

65 shelby GT350
69 camaro Z28

None of the above... '70 1/2 Trans Am... Will STOMP either. Of course, CID is the reason, not "superior" design (pretty much the same car as Z/28, but more motor).

i would pick the camaro. simply better

Define "better"...

What motor did the 70 1/2 Trans Am have???

Shelby, definitely.

Camaro is a neat car, but how many retards do you know who own Z's? Now how many GT350's do you see on the road? Not many. The early Shelby's were born with one thing in mind, racing. They were function driven cars, not necessarily what would sell, or what the public wanted, but what Carrol thought would win.

This retard says go with the Camaro if it's a real Z-28 with the 302 engine. They are rare and were made to compete in Trans-Am racing which they pretty much dominated. I would say most would agree if there are more Camaro owners. Most people must have bought them for some reason (maybe because they also thought they were a better car)? Anyway, the GT350 probably is a little rarer and a nice car. However, I think the Camaro is a nicer looking and better performing car. I would just like to say that I am by no means a Camaro owner, nor do I like them all that much, but I do like them better than the GT350. :biggrin:

Andy,
Base engine for Trans Am was the 335 HP 400 "Ram Air III". Optional was the 345 HP "Ram Air IV", also 400 CID. (these engines had higher ratings in GTO)
For actual Trans Am (Trans-America Challenge Cup, SCCA) racing, Pontiac made a 303 CID version. VERY short stroke, BIG bore (relatively speaking). They had some pretty unique heads, as well. Too bad they just didn't make it. The RPM required to make the heads "work" over-taxed the bottom end capability.
T/As weren't competitive in T/A racing until the mid-70s when factory support for Fords and Chevys played out. Once on an equal footing (independent teams), they did pretty well, with Jerry Titus driving the Radial T/A "Tirebird". After he died, so did most of the "big" publicity associated with the Trans Am series. They still run the series, but you don't hear about it much outside the SCCA crowd.

Jim

68 Shelby

I would go with the '69 Z-28. I know a lot more people have them but It's just my opinion. I have also read the 0-60's and the quarters for both of them and the book I read said the Z-28 was a little quicker. Got to be stick though.

I'm into handling and a balanced package. Never owned a pony car (well, my wife had a '74 Firebird) but I've had three 'Vettes, still hve a '64.

Always liked the '67-'69 Barracuda Formula S with 273 or 340 engine.

I kind of like the shelby. Well screw it get them both.

myself, im partial to them Shelbys. but Pbody is right....again.. (this guy amazes me) i think that if i absolutely had to pick, i would say the shelby, but id rather my neighbor's '71 Hemi Cuda 442 6-Pack. mmmmm.....exhaust.

65Shelby,
Not amazing at all. Just an old fart with a good memory! I've been building/modifying race cars and race engines for over 30 years...

One thing, though. What is a '71 Hemi 'Cuda 442 6-pack? Are you mixing your muscular cars? (a 'Cuda is a "pony car") There could be a '71 Hemi 'Cuda, OR a '71 440/6-Pack 'Cuda (440 is a "wedge" chamber). 442 is an Oldsmobile.

Not finding fault here, just trying to make sure things are correct. These little descrepancies cause all kinds of confusion to those not familiar with the specifics of these cars. We call it "myth and superstition". Accurate information is your best weapon in today's market.

Jim

65Shelby,
Not amazing at all. Just an old fart with a good memory! I've been building/modifying race cars and race engines for over 30 years...

One thing, though. What is a '71 Hemi 'Cuda 442 6-pack? Are you mixing your muscular cars? (a 'Cuda is a "pony car") There could be a '71 Hemi 'Cuda, OR a '71 440/6-Pack 'Cuda (440 is a "wedge" chamber). 442 is an Oldsmobile.

Not finding fault here, just trying to make sure things are correct. These little descrepancies cause all kinds of confusion to those not familiar with the specifics of these cars. We call it "myth and superstition". Accurate information is your best weapon in today's market.

Jim
hehehe. oops. it is the '71 440/6-Pack. not the 442. im going to go kick myself now.

How can you choose from 2 jewels....and I'm a mopar guy