real racers
fogeesiksteythree
05-13-2002, 12:16 AM
i think theres nothing wrong with buying a civic. I know your probly thinkin im sum poser that doesnt know about cars, but hear me out. I was thinkin about gettin a civic at firrst ESPECIALLY since its slow. To me part of racing is taking a slow ass piece of crap and turning that 160 hp to a turbocharged 8 sec machine. If you go and buy a fast car, lets say a ferrari, it is fast as hell when its stock. Does that mean you kno alot about cars or your a good racer? no, because some rich snob can get the same car and still be fast. But taking a lil piece of crap and makin it fast takes skill and knowledge. Thats real racing to me.
NSX-R-SSJ20K
05-13-2002, 12:19 AM
fair enough i haven't got a problem with that
if anyone does have a problem take your sh!t elsewhere!
if anyone does have a problem take your sh!t elsewhere!
joebowlr21
05-13-2002, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
i think theres nothing wrong with buying a civic. I know your probly thinkin im sum poser that doesnt know about cars, but hear me out. I was thinkin about gettin a civic at firrst ESPECIALLY since its slow. To me part of racing is taking a slow ass piece of crap and turning that 160 hp to a turbocharged 8 sec machine. If you go and buy a fast car, lets say a ferrari, it is fast as hell when its stock. Does that mean you kno alot about cars or your a good racer? no, because some rich snob can get the same car and still be fast. But taking a lil piece of crap and makin it fast takes skill and knowledge. Thats real racing to me.
I don't think it works like that.Sure taking a slow car and turning it fast is kool, but think about it for a second.People with money make civics fast, does that mean they are good drivers in any sense, no.It's the people that race other cars of equal power and pull ahead of them by using knowledge of how to take corners at high speeds and hit the apex at the right speed to pull out of the corner at incredible speeds.Thats what real racing is about.Not turning slow cars fast, but knowing how to drive any car to the point of it's limitation and trying to push it beyond.Any dope with money can make civics fast, but a real racer can show the true potential a family coupe has.
i think theres nothing wrong with buying a civic. I know your probly thinkin im sum poser that doesnt know about cars, but hear me out. I was thinkin about gettin a civic at firrst ESPECIALLY since its slow. To me part of racing is taking a slow ass piece of crap and turning that 160 hp to a turbocharged 8 sec machine. If you go and buy a fast car, lets say a ferrari, it is fast as hell when its stock. Does that mean you kno alot about cars or your a good racer? no, because some rich snob can get the same car and still be fast. But taking a lil piece of crap and makin it fast takes skill and knowledge. Thats real racing to me.
I don't think it works like that.Sure taking a slow car and turning it fast is kool, but think about it for a second.People with money make civics fast, does that mean they are good drivers in any sense, no.It's the people that race other cars of equal power and pull ahead of them by using knowledge of how to take corners at high speeds and hit the apex at the right speed to pull out of the corner at incredible speeds.Thats what real racing is about.Not turning slow cars fast, but knowing how to drive any car to the point of it's limitation and trying to push it beyond.Any dope with money can make civics fast, but a real racer can show the true potential a family coupe has.
fogeesiksteythree
05-13-2002, 12:53 AM
if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.
joebowlr21
05-13-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.
No you don't, if ur rich u would pay for maintanense,Once again think before you speak.Do you think he cares if he know about turbo charging?? but he could easily find out couldn't he....Or just pay someone to maintain the car.See with money you can do anything, but skill is wut makes a racer.Stop preaching about people who take civics and make them fast, most of them have the money to do, it's not about skill.you need money to buy those better motors....you need money to buy those turbos.....you need money to buy the parts to make ur car lighter......most guys with real nice fast civics are buisness oweners or have high paying jobs.How do you think they pay for there B16A or even a B18c5 motor???
Skill is wuts needed to be a true racer.......
if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.
No you don't, if ur rich u would pay for maintanense,Once again think before you speak.Do you think he cares if he know about turbo charging?? but he could easily find out couldn't he....Or just pay someone to maintain the car.See with money you can do anything, but skill is wut makes a racer.Stop preaching about people who take civics and make them fast, most of them have the money to do, it's not about skill.you need money to buy those better motors....you need money to buy those turbos.....you need money to buy the parts to make ur car lighter......most guys with real nice fast civics are buisness oweners or have high paying jobs.How do you think they pay for there B16A or even a B18c5 motor???
Skill is wuts needed to be a true racer.......
fogeesiksteythree
05-13-2002, 01:27 AM
your saying he can get people to do it FOR him. He wouldnt be able to do it himself. Im not talkin about gettin people to do it for you. Driving is a big part of racing. So is tuning. you dont have to be rich to do make a civic fast. My friend has a crx with an s2000 engine and he isnt a business owner. hes a busboy for a restraunt.
"Once again think before you speak" why tha fuck are you talkin shit? im fuckin agreeing wit you. i was sayin that you also need knowledge. you need skill and knowledge to be a real racer.
"Once again think before you speak" why tha fuck are you talkin shit? im fuckin agreeing wit you. i was sayin that you also need knowledge. you need skill and knowledge to be a real racer.
chebbiesux
05-13-2002, 01:33 AM
its not the fast civics that we hate. although they may exist, i have never seen one, so therefore, people who own civics and soup them up yet they still can't drive and their cars are still slow are the kind of posers that we pick on.
and by the way, you do not have to be a genius to tune an import.
it takes no skill at all to buy a bigger exhaust pipe nor does it take any skill to realize that your running lean and you need to buy bigger injectors. fuel injection takes the guessing out of tuning, and i am willing to bet none of the import racers out there even know what a carburetor is.
and you do have to be rich to make a civic fast. a car that starts out that slow needs so much money put into it to make it fast that other than putting in an entirely new engine (like your busboy) your gonna clean out both pockets before you start seeing a reasonable power level.
and besides, the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic
and by the way, you do not have to be a genius to tune an import.
it takes no skill at all to buy a bigger exhaust pipe nor does it take any skill to realize that your running lean and you need to buy bigger injectors. fuel injection takes the guessing out of tuning, and i am willing to bet none of the import racers out there even know what a carburetor is.
and you do have to be rich to make a civic fast. a car that starts out that slow needs so much money put into it to make it fast that other than putting in an entirely new engine (like your busboy) your gonna clean out both pockets before you start seeing a reasonable power level.
and besides, the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic
LjasonL
05-13-2002, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by chebbiesux
its not the fast civics that we hate. although they may exist, i have never seen one, so therefore, people who own civics and soup them up yet they still can't drive and their cars are still slow are the kind of posers that we pick on.
and by the way, you do not have to be a genius to tune an import.
it takes no skill at all to buy a bigger exhaust pipe nor does it take any skill to realize that your running lean and you need to buy bigger injectors. fuel injection takes the guessing out of tuning, and i am willing to bet none of the import racers out there even know what a carburetor is.
and you do have to be rich to make a civic fast. a car that starts out that slow needs so much money put into it to make it fast that other than putting in an entirely new engine (like your busboy) your gonna clean out both pockets before you start seeing a reasonable power level.
and besides, the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic
hey i know what a carb is! i own 2 carbureted vehicles (my honda and my 4 wheeler).
anyways what intrigues me most about this post is this "s2000 powered crx". the 1st thing that clicked through my mind when i read that was "BS BS BS BS BS" but before i say that im gonna ask u if u have any pics of it, or at least more info.
its not the fast civics that we hate. although they may exist, i have never seen one, so therefore, people who own civics and soup them up yet they still can't drive and their cars are still slow are the kind of posers that we pick on.
and by the way, you do not have to be a genius to tune an import.
it takes no skill at all to buy a bigger exhaust pipe nor does it take any skill to realize that your running lean and you need to buy bigger injectors. fuel injection takes the guessing out of tuning, and i am willing to bet none of the import racers out there even know what a carburetor is.
and you do have to be rich to make a civic fast. a car that starts out that slow needs so much money put into it to make it fast that other than putting in an entirely new engine (like your busboy) your gonna clean out both pockets before you start seeing a reasonable power level.
and besides, the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic
hey i know what a carb is! i own 2 carbureted vehicles (my honda and my 4 wheeler).
anyways what intrigues me most about this post is this "s2000 powered crx". the 1st thing that clicked through my mind when i read that was "BS BS BS BS BS" but before i say that im gonna ask u if u have any pics of it, or at least more info.
DjJinx
05-13-2002, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.
wth bill gates has enough money to buy any car he wnats, he can buy a damn space ship, y would he wnat to buy a pos and fix it up. he can just hire someone to do that for him. He wouldnt even have to race it he could hire some damn nascar racers to.
if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.
wth bill gates has enough money to buy any car he wnats, he can buy a damn space ship, y would he wnat to buy a pos and fix it up. he can just hire someone to do that for him. He wouldnt even have to race it he could hire some damn nascar racers to.
CAptynCrunch
05-13-2002, 02:08 PM
Um, just as a side note, Bill gates knows more about cars then 99.9999% of the people here. They're one of his biggest hobbies. Hell, theres something to be said about owning not one, but TWO totally mint, not restored, but still in actual mint condition GT500's.
fastrThanU
05-13-2002, 05:40 PM
betcha he doesn't drive 'em..... that's one of the biggest things i hate. people who buy amazing cars, like a Shelby GT500, and don't drive them. they look at them purely as "assets" and "investments." people that buy cars like that that are designed to be wrung out and driven to their absolute mechanical limit, and just let them sit in a climate controlled environment behind glass, and trailer them to shows should be put in prison.
CAptynCrunch
05-13-2002, 06:15 PM
Well, fastr, i can't be sure or anything seeing as how i don't know him but i heard he's a rather avid driver. Supposedly he has a private track of some sort on his property(more like compound) for him and his kids.
fogeesiksteythree
05-13-2002, 09:20 PM
ok well bill gates was just an example. i just used him since he was so rich. i had no idea he was into cars. i meant any rich person.
chebbiesux : tuning a car is more complicated than just adding a bigger exhaust pipe or injectors. like if you want to turbocharge, you need to know about lag, air/fuel, shit like that. Or a wet nitrous system. If you dont know wut your doin then you'd fuck up your engine.
To you or me, its not that complicated, but i know alota people that have no idea wut tha fuck im talkin about, i would know since i know alota ricers. its people like them that give us import racers a bad name.
DjJinx: your an idiot. if you read older posts, this isnt a thread about getting people to do work for you.
ldelaysionl : Ill try to get sum more info on that crx, but since i live far from that guy, im not sure if i can get pics. Its tru that fast civics are hard to find. It takes a really devoted person to stick with a piece of crap like tha civic and tune it.
chebbiesux : tuning a car is more complicated than just adding a bigger exhaust pipe or injectors. like if you want to turbocharge, you need to know about lag, air/fuel, shit like that. Or a wet nitrous system. If you dont know wut your doin then you'd fuck up your engine.
To you or me, its not that complicated, but i know alota people that have no idea wut tha fuck im talkin about, i would know since i know alota ricers. its people like them that give us import racers a bad name.
DjJinx: your an idiot. if you read older posts, this isnt a thread about getting people to do work for you.
ldelaysionl : Ill try to get sum more info on that crx, but since i live far from that guy, im not sure if i can get pics. Its tru that fast civics are hard to find. It takes a really devoted person to stick with a piece of crap like tha civic and tune it.
joebowlr21
05-13-2002, 09:49 PM
CRX running an S2000 motor???
*smells something....BS perhaps*
That would probably be the most complicated Hybrid transplant to take place.I mean shyt, the S2000 engine is angled different to fit the longer base of the s2000.Plus the drivetrain is FR not FF, which would be expensive as hell to convert for a CRX.I don't think he's just a bus boy to afford everything he needed.Hell the motor would be hard to find also, i mean an H22A motor goes for 4-6g's, i wouldn't even have a clue how much the s2000 motor would even go for.Until you get pictures of the car with the hood up, i'm calling BS!!!!
*smells something....BS perhaps*
That would probably be the most complicated Hybrid transplant to take place.I mean shyt, the S2000 engine is angled different to fit the longer base of the s2000.Plus the drivetrain is FR not FF, which would be expensive as hell to convert for a CRX.I don't think he's just a bus boy to afford everything he needed.Hell the motor would be hard to find also, i mean an H22A motor goes for 4-6g's, i wouldn't even have a clue how much the s2000 motor would even go for.Until you get pictures of the car with the hood up, i'm calling BS!!!!
tofstchvy
05-14-2002, 04:02 AM
I would call bs on the s2000 mtr in a crx. The s2000 mtr rotates clockwise. All the other honda mtr's rotate counter clockwise. There is no way you could hook it up to any Honda fwd tranny
Tom_S8
05-14-2002, 04:11 PM
Damn... i should probably lock this thread because it's getting full of flames and BS... anyway it's not my forum , and there's nothing that bad in here... But like the CRX with S2000 is one of the biggest lies i have heard on AF , and why turn a civic into a 8 sec machine like you described it... face it... front wheel drive is made because of economy... economy... economy... no not racing , not fast driving , none of this stuff... and that's what civic's and other cheap cars with FWD are... so why bother making it run fast... if it really had sense , F1 , nascar , rally and all the other racing would be based on Front wheel drive cars... but it isn't... guess why... :toothless
Btw this happens when idiots put high powered engines in this crap:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/380572sign.jpg
Btw this happens when idiots put high powered engines in this crap:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/380572sign.jpg
Super Spec V
05-14-2002, 05:42 PM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I cant believe what i just finished reading. A CRX WITH s2000 engine.
Oh my god that is the biggest pile of crap that i ever heard in my life.
That kind of project would mean that your buddy would have to bus tables and sell crack on the side for 10 years or so.
Anyways i have a geo metro with a 454 big block in it, and not to mention the 2 stage nos 400HP shot just in case a CRX with with S2000 engine comes around. :smoker2: :smoka: :D :p
BUT SHHH DONT TELL ANYONE I WANNA KEEP IT A SECRET..
I cant believe what i just finished reading. A CRX WITH s2000 engine.
Oh my god that is the biggest pile of crap that i ever heard in my life.
That kind of project would mean that your buddy would have to bus tables and sell crack on the side for 10 years or so.
Anyways i have a geo metro with a 454 big block in it, and not to mention the 2 stage nos 400HP shot just in case a CRX with with S2000 engine comes around. :smoker2: :smoka: :D :p
BUT SHHH DONT TELL ANYONE I WANNA KEEP IT A SECRET..
fogeesiksteythree
05-14-2002, 08:17 PM
god damn you people are stupid.
thats not tha point of this post. the point is that real racing, or should i say real tuning is taking a slow car and making it fast instead of buying a super fast car and not bein involved in the makin of the engine.
thats not tha point of this post. the point is that real racing, or should i say real tuning is taking a slow car and making it fast instead of buying a super fast car and not bein involved in the makin of the engine.
swedish
05-14-2002, 08:39 PM
real racing doesn't deal with making a slow car fast (-autox maybe), but tuning is, and i think even if it's not real "racing" it is very cool. it's a challenge within a hobby, thats why people like to do it (i'd like to get my car running 11's N/A, but i don't wanna build a house on a jello foundation :hehe: )
as a side note, i would like to see (read drive) the crx w/ s2000 pwrplant. consequently, the drummer in my band is a busboy, and i think he would be able to afford something similar (providing he killed his parents and siblings and got the life insurance :finger: :jump: )
as a side note, i would like to see (read drive) the crx w/ s2000 pwrplant. consequently, the drummer in my band is a busboy, and i think he would be able to afford something similar (providing he killed his parents and siblings and got the life insurance :finger: :jump: )
joebowlr21
05-14-2002, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
god damn you people are stupid.
thats not tha point of this post. the point is that real racing, or should i say real tuning is taking a slow car and making it fast instead of buying a super fast car and not bein involved in the makin of the engine.
It is the point in some sense.Because if you would BS about something like that, we shouldn't even listen to wut u think is a real racer.My friend buses tables and has a S2000 motor in his Crx....total crap.Why would u even bullshyt about something that stupid to prove a point that ur not getting across to anyone.......BS!!!!!
god damn you people are stupid.
thats not tha point of this post. the point is that real racing, or should i say real tuning is taking a slow car and making it fast instead of buying a super fast car and not bein involved in the makin of the engine.
It is the point in some sense.Because if you would BS about something like that, we shouldn't even listen to wut u think is a real racer.My friend buses tables and has a S2000 motor in his Crx....total crap.Why would u even bullshyt about something that stupid to prove a point that ur not getting across to anyone.......BS!!!!!
Neutrino
05-15-2002, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Anyways i have a geo metro with a 454 big block in it, and not to mention the 2 stage nos 400HP shot just in case a CRX with with S2000 engine comes around. :smoker2: :smoka: :D :p
BUT SHHH DONT TELL ANYONE I WANNA KEEP IT A SECRET..
HA No mach for my quad turbocharged 528 hemi pinto. Take that. And if you want to race me in your metro bring it on.:badass:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Anyways i have a geo metro with a 454 big block in it, and not to mention the 2 stage nos 400HP shot just in case a CRX with with S2000 engine comes around. :smoker2: :smoka: :D :p
BUT SHHH DONT TELL ANYONE I WANNA KEEP IT A SECRET..
HA No mach for my quad turbocharged 528 hemi pinto. Take that. And if you want to race me in your metro bring it on.:badass:
Super Spec V
05-15-2002, 08:50 AM
No Man are you crazy. I cant race your PINTO you'll blow me away!!
I'd have to go to the shed and pull out the 1947 Carmen Gia (VW), AND TRUST ME YOU DONT WANT THAT. It has John Forces last year drag engine in it. 3sec 1/4 mile man.
I'd have to go to the shed and pull out the 1947 Carmen Gia (VW), AND TRUST ME YOU DONT WANT THAT. It has John Forces last year drag engine in it. 3sec 1/4 mile man.
Super Spec V
05-15-2002, 08:52 AM
This is tooo funny, but cool, because it keeps me going at work.
Whenever i wanna laugh my a$$ off i look at this thread and laugh away.
Just though i would mention that. CRX WITH S2000 engine. What a crack head. That is soooo not happening.
Whenever i wanna laugh my a$$ off i look at this thread and laugh away.
Just though i would mention that. CRX WITH S2000 engine. What a crack head. That is soooo not happening.
Tom_S8
05-15-2002, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
god damn you people are stupid.
thats not tha point of this post. the point is that real racing, or should i say real tuning is taking a slow car and making it fast instead of buying a super fast car and not bein involved in the makin of the engine.
Your a good racer if you run faster then others in some class etc. it's not necesarry to make a slow car fast... there are classes in racing , and if you're faster then similiar vechicles in your class then you're a real racer...
god damn you people are stupid.
thats not tha point of this post. the point is that real racing, or should i say real tuning is taking a slow car and making it fast instead of buying a super fast car and not bein involved in the makin of the engine.
Your a good racer if you run faster then others in some class etc. it's not necesarry to make a slow car fast... there are classes in racing , and if you're faster then similiar vechicles in your class then you're a real racer...
DemonZX
05-15-2002, 02:08 PM
Tom! I could not have said it any better!
Oh, by the way my aunt just got a brand new 2.7T, and I got to drive it this weekend. That car is smoother than a babies ass!
Oh, by the way my aunt just got a brand new 2.7T, and I got to drive it this weekend. That car is smoother than a babies ass!
94svt5.0
05-15-2002, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by tofstchvy
I would call bs on the s2000 mtr in a crx. The s2000 mtr rotates clockwise. All the other honda mtr's rotate counter clockwise. There is no way you could hook it up to any Honda fwd tranny
Ya, it would work. You would just have 1 forwrd gear and like 4 gears in reverse.
I would call bs on the s2000 mtr in a crx. The s2000 mtr rotates clockwise. All the other honda mtr's rotate counter clockwise. There is no way you could hook it up to any Honda fwd tranny
Ya, it would work. You would just have 1 forwrd gear and like 4 gears in reverse.
honda troll
05-16-2002, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by chebbiesux
the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic
Right, cuz the S2000 is slow. :rolleyes:
the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic
Right, cuz the S2000 is slow. :rolleyes:
R1-rider
05-16-2002, 01:29 PM
Real racing has nothing to do with making a slow car fast, or even tuning. Real racing has to do with how well you can perform in any car, whether it is a geo metro or a Koenigsigg CC.
Being able to make a slow car fast doesn't make you a racer, it makes you a car tuner.
Being able to make a slow car fast doesn't make you a racer, it makes you a car tuner.
DMC12
05-16-2002, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
To me part of racing is taking a slow ass piece of crap and turning that 160 hp to a turbocharged 8 sec machine
Your heart is in the right place :D Tuning may not be everything, but it is part of being an enthusiast of racing for sure!
To me part of racing is taking a slow ass piece of crap and turning that 160 hp to a turbocharged 8 sec machine
Your heart is in the right place :D Tuning may not be everything, but it is part of being an enthusiast of racing for sure!
chebbiesux
05-16-2002, 05:18 PM
did you know that a mazda 626 turbo can take a honda s2000 to the 60 ft line at the track? do you have any idea how embarrassing that must be for the owner of the s2000?
and do you know how i know? because my father has an 87 mazda 626 with a turbo and a 5 speed. its silver with a sunroof, 4 doors and a tan interior. the thing ran a 17.6 at the track, and i can beat a s2000 to the 60 ft mark and past it, almost all the way to the 330.
so yes, s2000's are quite slow. but that's okay, because its a honda, and my honda lawnmower has run fine for the last 5 years!
and do you know how i know? because my father has an 87 mazda 626 with a turbo and a 5 speed. its silver with a sunroof, 4 doors and a tan interior. the thing ran a 17.6 at the track, and i can beat a s2000 to the 60 ft mark and past it, almost all the way to the 330.
so yes, s2000's are quite slow. but that's okay, because its a honda, and my honda lawnmower has run fine for the last 5 years!
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