Why my previous statement about NASCAR and F1 may now be false
cracker196
05-12-2002, 08:34 PM
THAT WAS THE MOST PATHETIC SITE I HAVE EVER WITNESSED IN SPORTS, LET ALONE F1. What a joke! This is why I am not a Ferrari fan, and if I were a Ferrari fan I would be hiding in shame right now. We can all agree that Rubens deserved the victory. What I want to know is what Schumacher really thinks about his "win." For a man that has such a stranglehold on a team and a sport, you'd think he might object to this sort of thing more. It is not like Ferrari is going to fire him if he goes out and criticizes management. Pathetic result. Everyone involved in Ferrari F1 should feel ashamed for ruining the sport.
From now on I propose that Ferrari be given the championship (as if it were ever in doubt after Brazil who was going to win the whole thing), and let the fans watch the "second tier" teams battle it out. McLaren vs. Sauber vs. Renault vs. Arrows, Jordan, BAR is much more exciting than Ferrari killing BMW-Williams for 1-4th place.
Hope Sato is well.
From now on I propose that Ferrari be given the championship (as if it were ever in doubt after Brazil who was going to win the whole thing), and let the fans watch the "second tier" teams battle it out. McLaren vs. Sauber vs. Renault vs. Arrows, Jordan, BAR is much more exciting than Ferrari killing BMW-Williams for 1-4th place.
Hope Sato is well.
NSX
05-13-2002, 12:39 PM
you can't really blame all of F1, and fia for Ferrari's actions
you can only blame Ferrari
i think F.I.A. should just take Ferrari out of this year's contention for contructors and Driver's title for such an action
its really sad that the rest of the teams are behind ferrari
it would be good if all teams had a limited budget
then sauber would rule:D hahaa
you can only blame Ferrari
i think F.I.A. should just take Ferrari out of this year's contention for contructors and Driver's title for such an action
its really sad that the rest of the teams are behind ferrari
it would be good if all teams had a limited budget
then sauber would rule:D hahaa
cracker196
05-13-2002, 09:10 PM
Hey, glad to see another Sauber fan out there. They should do well as soon as their new wind-tunnel opens, but as long as they are using Ferrari engines, they will never win races.
But to respond to your comments, I think it is F1s fault as much as it is Ferrari. F1 has made M.S. the golden boy he is. They needed a superstar, but it is as if the sport lives and dies with him. The only time I see mention in U.S. newspapers or on ESPN about F1 is when Schumacher wins a race. But MOST of the blame is on Ferrari. I've calmed down a bit since yesterday, but that was still deplorable.
But to respond to your comments, I think it is F1s fault as much as it is Ferrari. F1 has made M.S. the golden boy he is. They needed a superstar, but it is as if the sport lives and dies with him. The only time I see mention in U.S. newspapers or on ESPN about F1 is when Schumacher wins a race. But MOST of the blame is on Ferrari. I've calmed down a bit since yesterday, but that was still deplorable.
NSX
05-14-2002, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by cracker196
Hey, glad to see another Sauber fan out there. They should do well as soon as their new wind-tunnel opens, but as long as they are using Ferrari engines, they will never win races.
why is that?
ferrari will tell them to slow down for MS?:D
Originally posted by cracker196
But to respond to your comments, I think it is F1s fault as much as it is Ferrari. F1 has made M.S. the golden boy he is. They needed a superstar, ...
that's sad
the other drivers are really getting screwed aroudn with, especially the rising stars like jenson button, ralf, raikonnen..etc.
Hey, glad to see another Sauber fan out there. They should do well as soon as their new wind-tunnel opens, but as long as they are using Ferrari engines, they will never win races.
why is that?
ferrari will tell them to slow down for MS?:D
Originally posted by cracker196
But to respond to your comments, I think it is F1s fault as much as it is Ferrari. F1 has made M.S. the golden boy he is. They needed a superstar, ...
that's sad
the other drivers are really getting screwed aroudn with, especially the rising stars like jenson button, ralf, raikonnen..etc.
cracker196
05-15-2002, 06:07 PM
Agreed. I think Nick Heidfeld or Button are much more fun to watch.
Thunda Downunda
05-15-2002, 10:03 PM
You guys are absolutely right .. it WAS pathetic!
I wonder just where the perceived upside to all this was, from Ferrari's point of view? I mean, Ferrari's a 'Schu-in' for the championship anyway, and 'allowing' (a joke to even write that!) Rubens to win a few means a sure 1-2 for them, so why risk it?
Interesting to ponder what might happen if Betting shops & gamblers take up on their threat to sue Schumacher and/or Ferrari for Race Fixing, Fraud etc ?!?!
I wonder just where the perceived upside to all this was, from Ferrari's point of view? I mean, Ferrari's a 'Schu-in' for the championship anyway, and 'allowing' (a joke to even write that!) Rubens to win a few means a sure 1-2 for them, so why risk it?
Interesting to ponder what might happen if Betting shops & gamblers take up on their threat to sue Schumacher and/or Ferrari for Race Fixing, Fraud etc ?!?!
NSX
05-16-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Thunda Downunda
sue Schumacher and/or Ferrari for Race Fixing, Fraud etc ?!?! [/B]
hahaa
gambling on sports is illegal anyways, unless with pro-line i guess
sue Schumacher and/or Ferrari for Race Fixing, Fraud etc ?!?! [/B]
hahaa
gambling on sports is illegal anyways, unless with pro-line i guess
Thunda Downunda
05-16-2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by NSX
hahaa
gambling on sports is illegal anyways, unless with pro-line i guess
Bizzare .. So you can't even bet on a horse race, eh? What fascist regime do you suffer under, poor fellow? That might be true where you live (T.O?) but not for most civilized places including, I imagine, much of Europe, Asia, the Pacific, etc.
In my country for example we enjoy the freedom~of~choice to bet on the hayburners .. on football teams .. on the car races at Bathurst or the Touring Car title .. we can bet on two flys on a wall if we so choose
Anyway, it's a valid point and I BET F1 hasn't heard the last of it
hahaa
gambling on sports is illegal anyways, unless with pro-line i guess
Bizzare .. So you can't even bet on a horse race, eh? What fascist regime do you suffer under, poor fellow? That might be true where you live (T.O?) but not for most civilized places including, I imagine, much of Europe, Asia, the Pacific, etc.
In my country for example we enjoy the freedom~of~choice to bet on the hayburners .. on football teams .. on the car races at Bathurst or the Touring Car title .. we can bet on two flys on a wall if we so choose
Anyway, it's a valid point and I BET F1 hasn't heard the last of it
Pennzoil GT-R
06-10-2002, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Thunda Downunda
You guys are absolutely right .. it WAS pathetic!
I wonder just where the perceived upside to all this was, from Ferrari's point of view? I mean, Ferrari's a 'Schu-in' for the championship anyway, and 'allowing' (a joke to even write that!) Rubens to win a few means a sure 1-2 for them, so why risk it?
Interesting to ponder what might happen if Betting shops & gamblers take up on their threat to sue Schumacher and/or Ferrari for Race Fixing, Fraud etc ?!?!
The whole thing was a joke, but i can see where ferrari are coming from. They have lost championships on the last race of the season before now, and they realised that those 4 extra points are unlikely to, but could decide the championship is Schumi goes and breaks his leg or anythin like that again.
Nearly all the blame should go on the Ferrari management. It was them who forced rubens to slow down, not michael
p.s. kinda funny how michael still got booed in canada 4 weeks after!
You guys are absolutely right .. it WAS pathetic!
I wonder just where the perceived upside to all this was, from Ferrari's point of view? I mean, Ferrari's a 'Schu-in' for the championship anyway, and 'allowing' (a joke to even write that!) Rubens to win a few means a sure 1-2 for them, so why risk it?
Interesting to ponder what might happen if Betting shops & gamblers take up on their threat to sue Schumacher and/or Ferrari for Race Fixing, Fraud etc ?!?!
The whole thing was a joke, but i can see where ferrari are coming from. They have lost championships on the last race of the season before now, and they realised that those 4 extra points are unlikely to, but could decide the championship is Schumi goes and breaks his leg or anythin like that again.
Nearly all the blame should go on the Ferrari management. It was them who forced rubens to slow down, not michael
p.s. kinda funny how michael still got booed in canada 4 weeks after!
Thunda Downunda
06-11-2002, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
p.s. kinda funny how michael still got booed in canada 4 weeks after!
:coolguy: Don't mention the war :bathroom:
p.s. kinda funny how michael still got booed in canada 4 weeks after!
:coolguy: Don't mention the war :bathroom:
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