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stroker question


Lt1hayabusatsi
09-18-2005, 02:06 AM
I have a 91 sbc 350. I can get a scat 383 stroker crankshaft but didnt know if the block still need to be ground to clear the conecting rod path. Anyone have any insight into this little problem?

TRACYCULBERSON
09-18-2005, 04:13 AM
I have a 91 sbc 350. I can get a scat 383 stroker crankshaft but didnt know if the block still need to be ground to clear the conecting rod path. Anyone have any insight into this little problem?
I dont think so but not 100% positive. why do want a stroker engine i mean it is nuya bussiness i will respect that.strokers are good engines
but most the times people build strokers they are on a mission.
i had a friend who had one at one time very quick off the line when he hooked up.but half way thru the race his, rivel was just getting his first gust of good air and my buddy always got beat in the end .but if you plan fwd with this engine u will be number one at the end .dont get me wrong if your sure a stroker is what u want then i would go with my 1st gut feeling .but if you would like to save money have fast car and not so easy to scatter parts all over your home town.send me a p email or just respond i will give you info on small block chevy that is outstanding
and passed down from a very very reliable source and it worked for me
i am no wiz or nothing like that but if you are going to stay on the street drop me a line if you need any help i will be glad to help you.
but if you are going off road i probbally would just mess you up .if i can help just let me
long live the legacy because once winner always a winner (Dale Earnhart Incorperated LONG LIVE THE MAN IN BLACK

Mr. Luos
09-18-2005, 08:32 AM
but if you plan fwd with this engine u will be number one at the end
We are in the Camaro section. :lol:

Your buddies car fell flat on it's face because it didn't have a good flowing set of heads on it.

92zcamaroperson
09-18-2005, 10:47 AM
yeah id say heads and/or cam wasnt giving that motor what it needed to breath right. 383's are great motors. I like the 406 small blocks because they are usually absolute beasts when it comes to power. A guy i know has a 69 camaro prostreet and hes got a 406 in it and the car runs mid 8's. sweet car.

Lt1hayabusatsi
09-19-2005, 12:28 AM
So far I have a 270 comp cam, msd ignition, accel distributor and coil, looking for the right casting number for 305 heads(for the smaller combustion chambers) and thinking maybe a port and polish job?
any other ideas?

TRACYCULBERSON
09-19-2005, 02:00 AM
So far I have a 270 comp cam, msd ignition, accel distributor and coil, looking for the right casting number for 305 heads(for the smaller combustion chambers) and thinking maybe a port and polish job?
any other ideas?WELL THE STROKER MY BUDDY HAD WAS NOT JUST SOME OL SLOW THING BUT WOULD NOT HOLD A CANDLE TO THE 406 I WAS GASING IN A 1980 MALIBU CLASSIC .SHE WAS VERY STRONG AND WAS NOT SO BAD EXSPENSIVE. GUYS ITS A GREAT COMBO IF U WANT TO TRY IT DROP A LINE TO ME I WILL RELAY MY KNOWLEGE ABOUT IT., IT S NO BIG DEAL ITS NOT LIKE I AM GOING TO GET RICH OR JUST GET PAYED. GUYS MY 406 DYNO AT 443 HP 502 FT THATS ENOUNGH TO TWIST THE UNI BODY OUT FROM UNDER YOUR CAMARO.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP SAVE MONEY AND MAYBE TIME

Morley
09-19-2005, 02:25 AM
I have a 91 sbc 350. I can get a scat 383 stroker crankshaft but didnt know if the block still need to be ground to clear the conecting rod path. Anyone have any insight into this little problem?
YES, The block needs to be clearanced for the 3.75" stroke. You also need a small base circle cam.

Lt1hayabusatsi
09-19-2005, 02:48 AM
what block/crank set-up does it take to make a 406?

TRACYCULBERSON
09-19-2005, 06:39 AM
So far I have a 270 comp cam, msd ignition, accel distributor and coil, looking for the right casting number for 305 heads(for the smaller combustion chambers) and thinking maybe a port and polish job?
any other ideas?
yes i have heard that about the small combustion chamber heads .
i have a freind who dirt track races and is goood!!!!!!.
a few years ago he was smoking everything people just did not understand how he could be so consistant week after week.at the end of the season he let the cat out of the bag 305 small comb.chamberd heads . they were dumb fuzzeled.good luck dude i hope a hauss...

TRACYCULBERSON
09-19-2005, 04:49 PM
YES, The block needs to be clearanced for the 3.75" stroke. You also need a small base circle cam.
sounds like a nice z . I had 85 iroc z that was yellow and a one owner.
it was just a 305 ci but it was a crowd pleaser. good luck with the camaro they are great cars

Mr. Luos
09-19-2005, 05:06 PM
what block/crank set-up does it take to make a 406?
What would that be??

4.015 bore and a 4.0 stroke?

TRACYCULBERSON
09-19-2005, 08:51 PM
what block/crank set-up does it take to make a 406?
Well it is a 400 block with 400 crank.
.30 over is the bore. stock rods ,the bottom end had stud kit . Not that it made it any faster but you know just for insurance because it was a 2 bolt main.I had 441 heads 2.02 1.6 gm stainless steel valves,competion cam roller tip rocker arms 1.6 instead of the stock 1.52.comp valve springs also. The heads were port polished . Eldebrock rpm intake that was match ported to the heads.I ran a couple different carbs,750 dbl pumper,and the preditor, which both were great.but you may have a better carb than i and it will help i am sure.uldradine ground a cam for the specs i was running .520 lift and 290 = 300 duration. somewhere in that area.All i had in the car was a 3.73 gear from a monte carlo ss.
350 turbo trans,with california style shift kit . It was a fast shifting trans
with not any jerk or slamming of the gears.Also no time lost between gear change. The engine was strong ,I ran 7.70 in that area on street tires so keep in mind i also had b&m 3500 stall , so she broke loose on street tires anywhere from 15 to 25 mph. So if you have a better gear , carb ,lighter car ,and few more things you probally have alreadythat i did'nt will help . good luck guy i hope whatever you decide to build that it runs to a extreme perfection and you smoke some assss.

TRACYCULBERSON
09-19-2005, 09:02 PM
So far I have a 270 comp cam, msd ignition, accel distributor and coil, looking for the right casting number for 305 heads(for the smaller combustion chambers) and thinking maybe a port and polish job?
any other ideas?
Port and polish will be money well spent . The change in performance
you will notice . I like the f-body style you have a good looking car .
I had a 85 IROC-Z that my friends dad bought new garage kept but lots of hwy miles . It ran good and gave no trouble at all. But most of all it had the sex it was a head turner or a crowd pleaser . Wish i still had that one

Lt1hayabusatsi
09-20-2005, 10:10 AM
Yeah 400 small blocks kick ass. My dad has one in his 68 Z with a 4 speed tranny. The only problem is finding a sb 400, way too rare or the ppl that do have them want too much for them. The most common price i find is 500-600 for just the block nothing else.

Mr. Luos
09-20-2005, 06:54 PM
Well it is a 400 block with 400 crank.
.30 over is the bore.
Strange. In LSx world, that makes a 408.

That is assuming you mean a 4.00" bore block and a 4.00" crank.

I will be running that set-up, minus the .030 bore. 402 cubes for me.

TRACYCULBERSON
09-20-2005, 06:56 PM
Yeah 400 small blocks kick ass. My dad has one in his 68 Z with a 4 speed tranny. The only problem is finding a sb 400, way too rare or the ppl that do have them want too much for them. The most common price i find is 500-600 for just the block nothing else.
yeah that is most likely the going rate . When i built my 406 that i told you about earlier a think that i gave 250 for the block and pistons ,rods,crank shaft. It was the basic short block with everything but the heads or intake. I think i am telling you right that is that i gave $ 250 for the short block ,
. I would guess that your right on the price because that was a few yrs back. All in all that 400 or 500 hundred does not sound all that bad if consider that gas is $3.00 a dam gallon .The sad part is that all of us
gear jammer really suffer . but the hell with it we will make it some how we always do.Hey dude good luck with yourself and with whatever you do in life chat at you later.

Genopsyde
09-24-2005, 01:18 AM
Strange. In LSx world, that makes a 408.

That is assuming you mean a 4.00" bore block and a 4.00" crank.

I will be running that set-up, minus the .030 bore. 402 cubes for me.

the 400 sbc is a 4.125" bore with a 3.75" stroke, boring it .030 over makes 406.

TRACYCULBERSON
09-24-2005, 04:03 AM
the 400 sbc is a 4.125" bore with a 3.75" stroke, boring it .030 over makes 406.
Yes I am aware of 406 being 30 over . If i am not mistaking the first 400 that i had was 35 over and maybe 283 rods or somthing else strange that made 415 cu. inches. maybe I could make a phone call today and find out for sure

Genopsyde
09-24-2005, 07:52 AM
i was explaining to Mr. Luos.

Mr. Luos
09-24-2005, 09:11 AM
Gotcha. Needs more stroke!!!! :lol:

TRACYCULBERSON
09-24-2005, 09:59 PM
Gotcha. Needs more stroke!!!! :lol:
Sorry dude that was my bad.

bruceacarp
09-24-2005, 11:02 PM
Strange. In LSx world, that makes a 408.

That is assuming you mean a 4.00" bore block and a 4.00" crank.

I will be running that set-up, minus the .030 bore. 402 cubes for me.

I think he was referring to the stock 400 block and crank with a .030 overbore which is 4.125" x 3.75" bored to 4.155" which yields 406.5 cubic inches. At least that's the standard combination for a 406 SBC.

I don't think the stock small blocks can be ground enough to accept a 4" stroke without cutting into the bottom of the water jacket or crashing the rods into the cam even with the reduced base circle cams and undersize rod journals. I could be wrong. Have been before.

aweiserbud
11-03-2005, 05:40 PM
um ur buddy needed victor heads/intake and a speed demon carb.

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