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DUBSRUS2
09-17-2005, 01:38 PM
why this web side is dead? is evry one mooved to a new one and i don't know abou it?
ok it was summer time evry one is out no time for modelling.
so what is going on now? if there is a new side ,where evry one is at some one should let me know. thank u :smokin:

1986Z28
09-20-2005, 04:36 PM
i reconize the girl in your pic from a mazda website, are you in a different forum

Gafoto
09-22-2005, 10:06 AM
I think the forum was killed because serious collectors are repulsed by the way people act in this forum, no class whatsoever. I think it's mostly because the forum members are generally very young.

Thorst13
09-22-2005, 08:36 PM
I think the forum was killed because serious collectors are repulsed by the way people act in this forum, no class whatsoever. I think it's mostly because the forum members are generally very young.


Exactamento!

DUBSRUS2
09-24-2005, 04:04 PM
yeas i think so 2. i m 33. my grand pa gave me my first car when i was 7. it was a 1/43 die cast car, that how it started for me lol.
i customise cars for about 15 years. a lot of u saw my work. some of my cars looks like show custom, some of them looks like the one u see on the street/meaning nothing crazy,wheels, minor stereo system.
and a lot of ppl here have no respest to others. they start complaining not enough tv's, wheels r to big ,too small. ok we know that we built our cars for ourselves, i saw a lot of models here not even worse to look at, but i never said anything because i respect other builders work, that's how they wanted their models to look like, and thats all good. or may be some one it's just a beginner. i respect that too.
sorry for the long story, but yes u all right i think thats what killed that forum.
i build a lot of cars since my lost one u all saw but some times i don't feel like showing them, because ppl here have no respect.
there is a difference between other builders personal opinion and disrespect.
:smokin:
ps, i m not from mazda forum, and i m using this pic only on this forum.

ClearHooter
09-28-2005, 12:45 PM
I drop by here every so often to see if anything has changed. Not much and not really. Its like has been said, most of the people here seem to be young. This is reflected by their interest. Every once in a while I'll still post something in hopes some of the folks that still frequent this site and appreciate my "replicas" may get a chance to see it. It appears by my last post even they have moved on. My suggestion, if your bored with this site, punch up "Die-cast Forums" in the search engine and find a new one...Or two; that more reflect your interest. As far as a critique I have no problem with them as long as they are constructive.

I really like your pic though. It'll probably get pulled here though. You know? Minors and all that.

DUBSRUS2
09-29-2005, 10:35 AM
You r 100% right. I heard about some other forum for ppl like us,but can't remember the name.
About pic. I have it allready for about 6 month ,still here.LOL :smokin:

Scale-Master
09-29-2005, 12:59 PM
Another reason many folks have left this forum is they can't understand what the heck is being written. Many of the posts resemble the ramblings of an unschooled 2nd grader.
Capitals and periods should be used. You know, the cues that indicate the beginning and endings of sentences?
An occasional typo, while not desired, is acceptable. But that run-on E-shorthand junk should be tossed for coherent dialog.
Complete thoughts would be nice when asking questions, or just comments for that matter.
While I would like to share some of my experience and encourage other builders, I don't waste much time trying to decipher poorly written posts. I presume many others have parted ways with this part of AF for the same reason.
While I have noticed a decline in communication skills and standards throughout the boards on the internet, this particular one is excessively dumbed down... - Mark

ClearHooter
09-29-2005, 02:32 PM
Scalemaster: Could this be due to lowering the bar in our school systems to the least common denominator. I noticed with my kids, when they were in school, research skills were not a priority. Now with my grand kids its even less. It really ground my gears when my kids came up to me and asked "what's this mean" or "how do I spell...." I'd hand them a dictionary. I do the same with the 3rd and 5th grader. 8 out of 10 times they come back just like my son did and say..."Its not in here.....#!^$%&$%$$^%#%#. IT'S AN UNABRIDGED DICTIONARY!!!!! IF IT'S ENGLISH IT'S IN THE FLIPP'N BOOK!!!!! My daughter finally realized the extent of my assistance and just got the dictionary out and looked it up. I don't know if the boy ever figured it out. The good thing about being able to research something is you don't necessarily have to remember it! You can look it back up. Some folks here may be from other countries and this may have some bearing on sentence structure. But I have to agree the English language as screwed up as it is in its proper form (like "DESERT" same spelling three meanings) is even worse when put in "Orwellian Easy Speak."

Scale-Master
09-29-2005, 03:13 PM
You got me on that one ClearHooter. I could only think of two meanings for desert. The dry arid place, and the action of leaving. I looked it up and only found two meanings listed. Care to enlighten me on a third?

If only it were limited to the kids. Many of the offenders are not much younger than I, and some are even older.

Being an international board I understand the language barrier, but after checking the profile of the writers, usually the most unreadable stuff comes from right here in the U.S.A. - Mark

ClearHooter
09-29-2005, 04:27 PM
Oh I suppose I find myself trying to make excuses.

Desert (Duh.zert) A due reward or penalty. That which is deserved.

Desert (Deh.zert) A dry , often sandy expanse devoid of vegitation.

Desert (Duh.zert) To leave or quit unlawfully.

Oddly enough the first definition could be used as a contridiction. A "reward" OR "penalty."

I've always said it was a screwed up language. But it makes for writing some great songs.

Scale-Master
09-29-2005, 04:56 PM
Guess I forgot that one. Thanks.
The important lesson is that I looked it up first. Lesson two is to go to the big dictionary instead of the little one on my desk next time...
Now I know why it's little, they left stuff out... - Mark

mike@af
09-29-2005, 05:24 PM
I agree with whats been said. I moderate this forum, but there is only so much I can do to boost the maturity in this forum. Unfortunately its the case. Whereas the Modeling forum is much, much more mature.

Scale-Master
09-29-2005, 05:32 PM
Gotta agree with you on that Mike... - Mark

ElRxBandito
09-29-2005, 07:49 PM
I agree with whats been said. I moderate this forum, but there is only so much I can do to boost the maturity in this forum. Unfortunately its the case. Whereas the Modeling forum is much, much more mature.

I'd agree that it has a higher maturity level, but I personally don't do many plastic kits, so what I do dosn't belong there.
Immaturity and Imagination go hand in hand, so in a way, we're all immature...some worse off than others...

Camber
10-05-2005, 11:01 PM
I don't think thats true. I see disgraces to the English language in both
the plastic model forum and diecast forum. Theres more and more young
people who are building both plastic models and diecast.. Immaturity and
hideous grammar are spreading through the whole website.

ClearHooter
10-06-2005, 10:53 AM
I don't think thats true. I see disgraces to the English language in both
the plastic model forum and diecast forum. Theres more and more young
people who are building both plastic models and diecast.. Immaturity and
hideous grammar are spreading through the whole website.

i thnk yungpeple shud pay better tenshun n skool so what they writ wood b abel 2 b red better they shud no how 2 puntuate an spel 2 so there sentances woodn't run together an u'd b abel 2 red an stand what they say then u woodn't hav 2 desifer it like it was a kode....Dang! That's hard to do. SPELLCHECK! SPELLCHECK! SPELLCHECK! :banghead:

Also what limits the response to this board is the personal interest of the people that frequent these threads. It's not very diversified.

dag65
10-06-2005, 06:19 PM
SOme good points made here. I just popped in to see what the heck a web side is LOL!

KustmAce
10-07-2005, 12:48 AM
Good thread. But realize, you are in a website called automotive forums, where the most heavily frequented sections are Mclaren and Skyline (whoduthunkit). You are posting in basically the toy car section. Yep. They are kids.

PErsonally I read just about every thread made by most of you guys. Especially ClearHooter and ScaleMaster, you guys do ungodly work! I just dont reply often, because what else can I say other than some cliche one word like "Amazing!"

Dont stop posting. Please. Lest we be overrun by Escalades on dubz and wanna be Fast and Furious Skylinez y0

ClearHooter
10-07-2005, 01:31 AM
I've got to where unless I have something pertanent like the D50, that I want to make sure a particular person gets to see, I wait until I get several cars done then I'll post here. Still don't get much response but then its usually history by then; since I've put it on several other boards months before. That is a good point about the 1:1 cars being the mainstay of this site. But it doesn't negate the poor use of grammer here. I really like that little guy bangin' his head. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: That's funny.

Hobbes
10-07-2005, 09:49 AM
This thread is getting good.

I also want to add that this website is viewed worldwide and recently we are getting people from different countries. So their bad English and grammar is due to the fact that English is not their first language and I believe that they are still learning it as we speak. For that I will give a benefit of a doubt there.

But for the people here in the States it's either they are not learning as much through the generations like ClearHooter and ScaleMaster said, they don't want to learn, or they're just too lazy in these boards.

This section is not officially dead, but the fan base here is certanily lacking. It's probably there but, just like me and a few others, we don't post that much here. I would love to see more posts about the cars they got or the mods done to it. :smile:

ClearHooter
10-07-2005, 02:11 PM
Yeah. I brought that foreign thing up earlier. And I understand that 'cause my command of the English language is about all I can handle. More power to anyone trying to verbalize in a foreign tounge. But as Scalemaster pointed out most of the poor grammer isn't from outside the USA. Granted with the influx of immagrants to this country that may not be a valid point.

Its not a strong positive point that this particular thread is getting interesting and a high point.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: MAN!!! I love that little guy!

ElRxBandito
10-07-2005, 02:47 PM
I may just be bashing everything you guys are saying, but every person here, whether or not they have good or proper grammar, provide motivation in some way or another, and it's great to see all types of builds, even if their not something you particularly like. Say for instance someone is making an Escalade with big 'ol chrome wheels, I'm not a fan, but in some way it may inspire you to make somthing slightly similar, but with your own twist, so good grammar or not, we all basically need each other here, plus the support on build really helps keep a project going.

ClearHooter
10-08-2005, 08:23 AM
I may just be bashing everything you guys are saying, but every person here, whether or not they have good or proper grammar, provide motivation in some way or another, and it's great to see all types of builds, even if their not something you particularly like. Say for instance someone is making an Escalade with big 'ol chrome wheels, I'm not a fan, but in some way it may inspire you to make somthing slightly similar, but with your own twist, so good grammar or not, we all basically need each other here, plus the support on build really helps keep a project going.

While grammer does play a part in my making an effort to read what is put up here. It's more the subjects that stop me. I'm more interested in the classics and antique autos. Most of the posts here address "blings, dubbs" and newer stuff that is more computer oriented than mechanical. This just shows a generation gap that gives weight to the statements that the younger side of the scale posts this board. I don't have a problem with that...Just no interest. I suppose that is a two sided coin. Nor am I a very fast typist. Nor do I excell in speed when it comes to posting. I weigh what I say and try to say what I mean as elequently as I know how. My vocabulary far outstrips my ability to spell it, so I do have some words mispelled from time to time. But I have a dictionary and do use it; which is one of the things that slows me down. For those reasons I don't post much here. (In fact this is the most I've put up here in months.) When there is little interest in what I do I don't dwell on it I move on. Like I said, I'll put up several pics here, of work I do over several months now; rather than put up WIPs because it's a waste of my time if there's no interest. No problem with me. But if you compound my attitude by "X" then you'll understand why some think this board is "Dead."

ElRxBandito
10-08-2005, 02:43 PM
Very understandable.

97_sho
10-08-2005, 06:57 PM
While grammer does play a part in my making an effort to read what is put up here. It's more the subjects that stop me. I'm more interested in the classics and antique autos. Most of the posts here address "blings, dubbs" and newer stuff that is more computer oriented than mechanical. This just shows a generation gap that gives weight to the statements that the younger side of the scale posts this board. I don't have a problem with that...Just no interest. I suppose that is a two sided coin. Nor am I a very fast typist. Nor do I excell in speed when it comes to posting. I weigh what I say and try to say what I mean as elequently as I know how. My vocabulary far outstrips my ability to spell it, so I do have some words mispelled from time to time. But I have a dictionary and do use it; which is one of the things that slows me down. For those reasons I don't post much here. (In fact this is the most I've put up here in months.) When there is little interest in what I do I don't dwell on it I move on. Like I said, I'll put up several pics here, of work I do over several months now; rather than put up WIPs because it's a waste of my time if there's no interest. No problem with me. But if you compound my attitude by "X" then you'll understand why some think this board is "Dead."
i agree with both you and bandito.i am also interested in classic/antiques im 14 yrs old im not much into the bling bling era of cars and dabble some what in to imports.i know that can be hard to find,but thats how i was raised around muscle cars ,and antiques.getting back on track,i try to spell words correctly and use spell check to impress you guys cause i dont want you guys to think im some supid 10 year old child who cant talk very well let alone type.i dont think its killing the forum because its there desision to build/post here

DUBSRUS2
10-12-2005, 11:08 AM
WOW
I started this thread and I never thought that is gonna get that big.
Any way I agree but I m 34 and I m in to bling bling escalades and computerized skylines.
I did my time with classic and muscle cars, still have respect for them, still customizing them from time to time.
And you all have point, that it is very sad that young generation can't spell they own language.
Us immigrants we came to this country, at list we try to learn how to spell, and it is looks to me that kids not even trying to do that.
I came to the states in 1990, I never went to college here. And it is makes me feel sad that I can spell better then someone who was borne here. :smokin:

97_sho
10-12-2005, 04:35 PM
WOW
I started this thread and I never thought that is gonna get that big.
Any way I agree but I m 34 and I m in to bling bling escalades and computerized skylines.
I did my time with classic and muscle cars, still have respect for them, still customizing them from time to time.
And you all have point, that it is very sad that young generation can't spell they own language.
Us immigrants we came to this country, at list we try to learn how to spell, and it is looks to me that kids not even trying to do that.
I came to the states in 1990, I never went to college here. And it is makes me feel sad that I can spell better then someone who was borne here. :smokin:
it is true i feel almost ashamed to be 14 and spell beter than some other 14 yr old kids (no offence to them)on here. plus i like the fact that you still respect muscle cars and like the newer gereration of cars

KustmAce
10-12-2005, 05:01 PM
Oh I suppose I find myself trying to make excuses.

Desert (Duh.zert) A due reward or penalty. That which is deserved.

Desert (Deh.zert) A dry , often sandy expanse devoid of vegitation.

Desert (Duh.zert) To leave or quit unlawfully.

Oddly enough the first definition could be used as a contridiction. A "reward" OR "penalty."

I've always said it was a screwed up language. But it makes for writing some great songs.

By the way, that first definition would be dessert. :)

ClearHooter
10-13-2005, 11:04 AM
By the way, that first definition would be dessert. :)

Actually no....Webster's makes a distinction between "desert" ie "due reward." And "dessert" ie "The last course of a meal." Until one of my grandkids had it in reading and I made her look it up; which she couldn't!!! I had to look up "desert" ie "Dry....expanse of land." I wasn't aware of the "due reward" spelling. I always figured it was "just desserts."

It IS a screwed up language. BUT IT'S OURS. It's probably one of the most discriptive. From what I've been told it's one of the few that can actually create rhymes. Don't hold me to that. I've heard that most of my life. I'm "sure" when English is translated into Spanish, for instance the English rhyme is broken. Can anyone who speaks Spanish or French or any other language verify or debunk the rhyming statement??? I've been courious about that since I heard it. That's been a looooong time.

Several truths:

Books should have table of contents and indexes.
Pants should have pockets
Clocks should have at the VERY least 4 numbers.
Fuel pick-ups should be at the rear of the tank.
Forums should have SPELLCHECKS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Scale-Master
10-14-2005, 11:07 AM
Wow, take a week off from the board and look at it go! - Mark

97_sho
10-14-2005, 05:58 PM
:eek: hes back

mike@af
10-14-2005, 06:44 PM
Hope all went well this past week Mark. I know you've been busy. Did you make it to the Irvine Convention? I've seen the pictures and it was a pretty good show, but smaller than normal.

Scale-Master
10-15-2005, 02:14 PM
Couldn't make it to the convention, had about 70 people over, luckily some of the guys who attended were able to stop by my place though... - Mark

ClearHooter
10-17-2005, 10:07 PM
I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS!!!!

Since this thread has involved quite a bit of discussion about attempting the proper use of the English language. I had to relate this. Several of my grandkids were dropped off this afternoon at the house after school today. This is a regular occurance on Mondays. They immediately start on homework when they get here. Not my rule, their moms. They hate it because before I sign off on anything they have to answer questions. Math is checked. Spelling is checked. And not only do they have to be able to spell it they have to know what it means. Not mom's rule, mine. Today I had to skim two books that the two youngest were reading. One is in the 1st Grade the other the 3rd. The books were Junie B. Jones books. I could not believe the errors in grammer that these books endorse. I can't recall all of the abuses to the English language. But two stuck out so badly they still hurt my brain. I must paraphrase as I can't recall verbatum. One said something like "I winned my grandpa playing Tic Tac Toad." The other said, "I'm the bestest hopper..." If kids see this kind of misuse of verbage in books without being told its incorrect. Is it a small wonder they can't express themselves any better when they grow up? :sly: :loser: :banghead: :icon16:

Scale-Master
10-18-2005, 12:23 PM
I'm noticing it more and more in mainstream publications from magazines and newspapers to model kit instructions. Some is due to translation errors as in the past on the model instructions. But some people who use, (rely on), spell check don't even notice how corrupted and wrong it can be, let alone know what is correct. The spell check in AOL is awful, it tries to convert my English and restructure my sentences to ebonics. This is another way people who are trying to learn are being misguided. Sadly, it is what we have to live with. I'm afraid it will get worse before it gets better... - Mark

ClearHooter
10-18-2005, 01:01 PM
I know am getting off the subject of why this site is dead and I apologize. But this does have some bearing on the matter. When I have to decifer what someone is trying to say; I usually don't. Another example that I only address on Mondays was with the oldest granddaughter. Actually the first three are from my daughter's, husband's previous marrage. Until they ran into us, education wasn't very high on the "to-do" list. The problem I've also noticed is, if the kids don't know a word they skip it!!! Like it's in the way. The 4th grader couldn't pronounce "represent." When she couldn't pronounce it after trying over and over she looked at me and said, "I don't think that is a word.... :shakehead The 1st grader is reading the same books the 3rd grader is reading and has better math skills. Is this because my daughter has been there as a tutor since he started school? I firmly believe education should be continued at home. Though this isn't a firm case study; it does give support to that theory.

PETET
10-22-2005, 07:51 AM
WTF?!

is this an english class??

WHO GIVES A SHIT?!

mike@af
10-22-2005, 09:53 AM
WTF?!

is this an english class??

WHO GIVES A SHIT?!

Nice to see somebody with the mature attitude. This is a close fit to the profile we were discussing that turns people away.

There is an AF policy that you need to spell "legibly". The reason behind the unwritten rule is because this is an international website and for many English is not their native tongue.

Your comment was adequately noted. Just watch what you post from now on, and think before you speak.

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