is this a P11 bumper?

http://www.g20.net/images/mod_extern_quad-hlight.jpg

some people said this is a stock p11 bumper. is it a primera bumper? cause it doesnt look like a g20 bumper.

http://www.g20.net/images/rr_lukec03.jpg

this is a stock g20 bumper, so that must be a primera stock bumper? :confused:

it is G20's... luke's car

but he has wingswest front lip on that car ^.^

so the first one is a P11 stock bumper?

no that one in the first picture is not the stock bumper. I believe someone mentioned that that was a custom made bumper and a lot of custom work was done on that car.

The first picture *is* a stock P11 bumper...

Luke, the bumper in the first pic is the one Im talking about. Its the 99 P11 Primera bumber, right? If Im wrong...well...I want whats in that first pic, whatever it is...

I believe I posted that pic a time ago with ... the bumper is a stock p11 primera GT bumper (well half of it anyway...) the answer to my question was:

Originally posted by primera man
If i'm correct, im sure the bit under the headlights and the bonnett are different between the P10 and P11 in shape and size.

I would say at a guess that the car in the photo has had the P10 bumper cut below that black stripe on that pic, and the bottom bit of a P11 bumper has been added on in it's place. There for keeping the top half of the P10 bumper.
If this is correct it would take a lot of work and you would be better off getting a spoiler kit to suit.

This is the difference i mean
P11 Front

P10 Front

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You can see how the P11 bumper goes right up under the lights and is different in the middle where the bonnet comes down.

Guys, this is silly.

The P10 in the first photo indeed has a P11 bumper. It is just not a USDM bumper.

Luke, check your Hyper Rev book. You will see some stock P11s with this bumper.

Originally posted by P10DET
Guys, this is silly.


:confused: :confused: Only trying to point out the fact that the two are different.

hey guys do have you heard of guy call Henry or PrimeraGt. Well he lives 1 hour away from me. He has a p11 and I have a p10. Henry and myself will be test fitting P11 bumpers on my p10 really soon.

hey aznvirus

Have you found out yet if P11 bumpers work on a P10. Also have you found out the answer on the maroon P10 with P11 bumper. If is the whole P11 bumper or half P10 and half P11.

Y'know I got around to measuring my bumpers and comparing to Primera man's measurements, plus I'm lookin at the posted pics or the differences.

I thinkit's safe to say the only REAL difference is where the grill and lights are involved.

I'm sure it can be fit easy tho.

I'm game to try it.

thanks for the good news. :D i guess us P10 owners now have better options for body kits. :eek: im thinking cutting the original P10 bumper and molding on a P11 bumper would make it a lot easier.

PRIMERA MAN - I can see oil drips on your concrete floor! Hope its not from the Primera!


The only problem I can forsee is having to get new front spot lights that fit the P11 front. The P10 spot lights are bigger and arent the same shape.

Originally posted by AWD Primera
PRIMERA MAN - I can see oil drips on your concrete floor! Hope its not from the Primera!


NEVER !!! :devil:

From the wifes old Lancer she had....must clean them off one day :eek:

Notice how they have extended the front grille out to take into account the difference between the P10 and P11 as pointed out by Primera Man

Hmmm and by the looks of things the rear P11 bumper was not attempted yet...I wonder how you extend the grill like that?

You guys are half right but all wrong. Yes this is impul bumper for a p11 but it has cut at the moulding line then attached to the p10 o.e. bumper. The side skirt i think are different too! so if the question is can you just install the impul bumper on this p10? The answer is NO. Sorry not without modding! p10s and p11s might have some stuff that are interchangable but not everything. :D

Originally posted by blkghst3
You guys are half right but all wrong. Yes this is impul bumper for a p11 but it has cut at the moulding line then attached to the p10 o.e. bumper. The side skirt i think are different too! so if the question is can you just install the impul bumper on this p10? The answer is NO. Sorry not without modding! p10s and p11s might have some stuff that are interchangable but not everything. :D

This is what i have been saying all along.
I think you guys would be a lot better off just buying a after market one. I'm sure there are plenty to pick from and Luke maybe able to come up with something from Japan.

Just my 2 cents worth

ahhh so much confusion, i think ill just get the stock primera P11 front bumper and mold it to mine. does anyone have a pic of the stock Primera front bumper, not the g20, but primera. oh ya, and for that picture at the top, i think the grill was pushed outward because of those quad headlights. just my thoughts... :cool:

Originally posted by AznVirus
does anyone have a pic of the stock Primera front bumper, not the g20, but primera.

Page one of the current tread, the red Primera GT...

why is there confusion. Azn Virus it is simple. i dont understand why now you talking about modifing a p11 bumper on your car when it doesnt really matter. the p11 bumper is pointless,buddy. i would do the impul bumper cause there is style,carisma and performance,dude! i wish i could get that kit. but folking out 3400+ dollars is alot for me to swallow,besides i whether invest that money in a sr20det from jgy customs. the ghost ryda has spoken: peace :D :D

Gee looks like this is gonna be like when I started talkin about coverting to manual from auto...Many said it could'nt be done.

Well I'm gonna roll the dice again and see what I can do with P11 bumpers and skirts...I have a hunch its goona fit nice.

The grill was not pushed out because of the head lights. I have hedalights on my car and you do not need to push grill forwrad. here is my car pic.

ok guys....
that P10 has the JDM Primera P11 front bumper...not IMPUL nor USDM P11 G20 front bumper.
The only thing that's IMPUL on that P10 are the side skirt and the rear...it's the IMPUL 211R (if i remember the number correctly)
as for fitting it nicely, a professional bodyshop will tell you that it's hard because the OEM USDM front bumper is made out of urethane or some sort of plastic which is very hard to bondle up...different than fiberglass. they urethane bondle, however, it's very costly. I am sure it can still be done, but just takes time and patience and money. Although it looks nice (i like it a lot!) but i just have a feeling that if you were to work on it, it's gonna be quite tough to make it fit Perfectly.
however, i can give you some helpful tip from my bodyshop...
find a P10 front bumper and a P11 front bumper. cut the top 1/3 of the P10 FB so the top will match perfectly with the car. (so it fits) then, cut the P11 FB in half horizontally and then cut it vertiacally in half. (since the P11 is a little bit wider than the P10, cutting it half vertically will allow you to trim it down to fit the top 1/3 of the P10 bumper)
after you done that, assuming eveyrhting is in good alignment and it doesnt look crooked, buy some bondle that's made FOR the plastic...but make sure to have brackets in the back of the bumper to hold everything first. After the bondle, sand eveyrthing down and make minor adjustment to make it look good and then you can paint it. Theoritcally, these steps are the proper procedure to insure perfect fitment.
Shaun, if you are attempting this, take my advise. hopefully it'll come out nice, good luck :)

Luke is right..

check it:


impul p11kit

http://www.impul.co.jp/products/complete/P11_PRIMERA/P11_1f.JPG

impul p10kit

http://www.impul.co.jp/products/complete/P10_PRIMERA/P10.R_1f.JPG

stock p11primera gt frontspoiler

http://www1.odn.ne.jp/naka2/car/off/off_05/offfile/list/car_052.jpg

That burgundy car has a JDM Nissan Primera GT front bumper.

Its not the same as the base JDM Primera bumper.


And definately not an IMPUL bumper!!!

So will the P11 bumper fit the P10. Also you do hot need to cut up P11 and p10 to make on bumper?

as the primera also exist in europe, a JDM bumper isn't the case.. :) it's a p11 Primera GT bumper, period

not wanting to tick you off or anything, just having lots of time on my hands... :)

What i am saying is will any P11 bumper fit the p10. either US P11, jdm p11 bumper, a Europrean p11 bumper , or after market p11 front bumper...............etc.

I relly can care les if the about the bumper on the maroon car or red one. Just need know if i can put on any P11 bumper on my P10.

thank you

follow my advise and it can be done...

thaa, yes I realize that, just didnt feel like editing my post. ;)


drockg20, no there is no P11 bumper that will fit on a P10 w/o modifications the cars have different dimensions and mounting points for body parts. yes, you can fit it on by doing a custom fit. you can custom fit a ferrari bumper if you wanted and had the time and/or money.

Folks, the first picture is of a P10. . .

Originally posted by FlossinPrimera
Folks, the first picture is of a P10. . .

well, duh! :) :bandit:

Originally posted by FlossinPrimera
Folks, the first picture is of a P10. . .

Originally posted by ales


well, duh! :) :bandit:


LOL :flash: :flash: :flash:

What color is your car?? It looks fantastic!! :licker: :licker:

Originally posted by slickkedar
What color is your car?? It looks fantastic!! :licker: :licker:

Thanks for the kind words :D :D

The car came factory with "gunmetal" but i had the car done a bit darker.
It's a strange car to try and take pics of as it looks really "light" in the sun but really "dark" in the shade.:( :(

This is more of the actual colour.

Seeing u guys are on the look out 4 P10s with P11 fronts. Here is another one. Could have picked the upmarket front though
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Rally/3684/img002000000.jpg

Originally posted by AWD Primera
Notice how they have extended the front grille out to take into account the difference between the P10 and P11 as pointed out by Primera Man

Actually, that grill extends out like that anyway. It's not because of the P11 bumper cover.

this is a stock...no mods at all P11 Primera GT bumper as found in the UK.....:bandit: :flash:

Ive added a P11 Front End to my P10 G20 and it looks great, e-mail me for pics. NinjaCar also added a Custom Black Widow Front End kit to my old early 93 G20, and it looked perfect. Fit like a glove. The BW Kit fit better than the stock bumper.

Originally posted by L3thalg20boy
Ive added a P11 Front End to my P10 G20 and it looks great, e-mail me for pics. I also Added a Black Widow Body kit to my 93 G20, and it looks perfect.

Why not just attach the photos here?

Heres a pic i took today

That last pic showed my 93.5 P10 G20 with a P11 G20 Front End and the P11 Rear Factory Infiniti G20 Spoiler also mounted on, I will be adding the P11 Infiniti G20 Side Skirts and a different kind of rear bumper that extrends downward to match the side skirt length, because the stock P11 G20 Rear Bumper Fascia WILL NOT fit, under any circumstance, the P10 G20. I found out the hard way, spending nearly $625 on three new P11 rear ends and cutting them to fit. The P11 Trunk dips down to sort of "Overlay" the center of the P11 rear bumper, so, when you go to mount it on your P10, you end up with a 16 inch hole under the bottom of the rear P10 deck lid, letting see all the rivets in the P10 Rear bumper itself. Very un-attractive. Youll want to go with a Fiberglass bumper of some kinda, that way you can cut and add fiberglass to make it fit better. P11 G20 rear Bumper Fascias are made of Plastic, making it hard to work with. I have also tried mounting the P11 G20 Rear Tail Lamp fixtures in the P10 Model G20, they also do not fit, the P11 has more of a sharp curve on the outside tail lamps that are bolted to the body (off the trunk). It is possible to mount the P11 Trunk tail lights onto the trunk, but you may find yourslef drilling some holes in your trunk to match the mounting screws for the P11 Tail lamps, also, there is a plastic molding that is attached to the trunk lamps for the P11 fixtures, you can remove it, but it may damage it in the long run. This Plastic grey attractive molding has a center peice that runs along the cnter of the trunk so you can see it, its all for looks, but unless you wanna do some tacky glue-ing of this piece, it wont reliably fit your P10 Deck lid. We Have also attempted at exchanging P11 Headlamps, Hood, and even Front Quarter panels. None of these items will fit fron chasis of the P10 model G20 becuase of Nissan completely reconstructed the front end of the vehicle, thats why they have a different chasis code, P11. The headlamp fixtures for the P11 will not fit the P10 because of the change in construction of the radiator core support. (The Entire Metal Framing Of the Front engine compartment) The core support on both models is basically the building block for the all front end body parts. Everything including headlamp fixtures relies on this frame. The Hood will not mount because the headlamps wont mount. Same with the corner turn signals, making the P11 Front Quarter panels unmountable. In order to modify the radiator core support, you would have to cut and weld a whole new core support in, pulling out the engine and tranny, and all parts out of the engine bay and off the front of the car. Basically you would have to cut the entire fron end of the car off from the firewall and start over. I hope this information was helpfull and saves you the cost of buying parts and having to risk a No-Return Policy. If you have any other questions, let me know. [email protected]

Ok now how did you get the front bumper to fit your P10?

I installed this bumper myself with little mods to it. Ive heard people Cut the bottom half of the P11 Fascia off at the molding line, and use double stick tape to attach to the P10 Upper half. All parts behind the bumper stay in the same place, The Only modss you will have to do to the fascia is take a sharp razor blade, and cut a clean line, from the center of the bumper, out to the mounting points on either side of the fascia. Making a clean flush mounting under the headlamp fixture trim, just above the bumper. Cutting will take away Mount points on the Fascia. It is easy to make new mounting Brackets for this by taking two (2), Four (4) inch pieces of one quarter (1/4) inch thick, and one half (1/2) inch wide metal pieces and bending them both into an "L" Shape. Heat these metal pieces with a torch. Push these into the inside of the Bumper Fascia, on both ends where the mounting points that were cut off, These will melt into the bumper. I coated these with "5 Second Nail Glue" (sounds funny, but worked for me), using the entire bottle on both brackets. Then, after this has dried coat these with Epoxy to reinforce the bracket to the fascia. Drill a whole on the top of the "L" on the bracket to make a hole for the bolt to come through, use the same stock bolt and 10mm Fine threat nuts. You may want to put washers on all sides to make a more reliable contact. Reinsert the styrofoam padding inside the front of the fascia, which is used to make a tighter fit around the actual metal bumper. Then mount it to the front. The P11 Fascia is a bit longer on the mounting sides, and my hang over the fender a small amount. A small amount of sandable fiberglass may be needed to fill in these gaps. I recommend painting the Fascia after all of these procedures are completed. You will then want to tighten it down with zip ties. Use Large Zip Ties to tie the bottom of the Fascia to the Transmission, and other underbody components. Hopefully this information was helpfull in mounting the P11 Bumper on the P10 Front End.

Heres one pic recently taken, im still workin on some stuff on the Bumper, but E-mail me for additional pics, ill be more than glad to send em, i just cant send em all at once to one reply on this forum without converting them to BMP format and cutting and pasting em all to one file. Too much work. I guess ill do it soon tho.

THANKS YOU! I am now running out and buying a P11 bumper WOO HOO! I was need ing news like this.

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Originally posted by L3thalg20boy
so did i end the argument on whether or not you can fit a P11 front bumper on a p10? where did everyone go? I think you pretty much cleared it up for everyone!

ive heard you can mod civic or accord kits to fit

Originally posted by L3thalg20boy
so did i end the argument on whether or not you can fit a P11 front bumper on a p10? where did everyone go?


There was never any arugment or doubt. You can put any body part on any car if you have enough money, skills, tools to get it done...

I just think there were some curious P10 owners wondering how hard it would be, thats all... :D


I think they're all out now buying P11 bumper, saws, duct tape, and glue, lol :sun:

Your probably right, everyone is most likely working on theirs now, i still have yet to type up a better document with pics on how to perform this. its actually pretty easy tho.