Bit of a Situation

Alright this is the situation...

I have a stock 95 3.4L automatic Camaro
I have had it for almost a month now but cant find many upgrades available for my small V6.. After alot of thinking and analyzing i have came to a couple different conclusions...

1)Drop a LT1 engine in it which would also mean a swap of trannys and suspension...

2)Sell my Current camaro to buy a Z28 Ls1 or Trans-am Ws6

I know just gettin the new car would be easier but considering i still owe some on the car i have i think it might be more difficult..

if you could point me in the direction of somewere to find the upgrades for my 3.4 or were to get a bigger engine that wouldnt cause to many additional changes(tranny)

Just dont talk about a 3.8 cause i think swapin that in would just be a waste of my time and money considering there isnt much difference between the two

I suggest buying a new one myself.......unless your a pro with engine swaps....more money/ time with the swap.

I agree, while swapping in an engine would definately be cool, I think it's much easier to just go buy a different car.

Just dont talk about a 3.8 cause i think swapin that in would just be a waste of my time and money considering there isnt much difference between the two

there is a pretty big difference. the 3.8 is more powerful and can even run with 94-98 mustang GTs. there is also a lot more aftermarket for those.but it still prolly wouldnt be worth the swap.

Selllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Well I was kinda in that same situation a month ago, keep my v6 or go buy a Z28. I decided that between college, girlfriend (not anymore cheating **ut) and insurance/cell phone bill (etc), it wasn't worth it. So here are a couple sites to look into
fbodymotorsports.com
lmperformance.com
rksport.com
slponline.com
summitracing.com
thunderracing.com (the best site for 3.4L)

I have more if you want them but that should get you started

Alas, a fellow 3.4L owner. First off, ignore all the other comments made about getting rid of your car. There IS potential in the 3.4's, if your in fact willing to settle with the "little engine that could"

Alright this is the situation...

I have a stock 95 3.4L automatic Camaro
I have had it for almost a month now but cant find many upgrades available for my small V6.. After alot of thinking and analyzing i have came to a couple different conclusions...

1)Drop a LT1 engine in it which would also mean a swap of trannys and suspension...

2)Sell my Current camaro to buy a Z28 Ls1 or Trans-am Ws6

I would say, swapping in an LT1 would be easier than swapping in an LS1, as I'm sure you already know. But, unless you've got a couple of grand to spend on the swap, alot of time and money, not to mention the patience. Then I wouldn't consider it.

were to get a bigger engine that wouldnt cause to many additional changes(tranny)

Well, the engine you've got right now is in fact the biggest 60 degree block out there. So there's really not much else out there that the tranny will bolt up to, without custom fabrication that is.

Just dont talk about a 3.8 cause i think swapin that in would just be a waste of my time and money considering there isnt much difference between the two

Yeah, the 3.8 would be just as difficult as an LT1 swap. Just not worth it


And finally.. The sites..

Best 3.4L performance site I've ever come to find:
http://www.ftpp.net/V6Main.htm
And some others:
http://byunspeed.com/catalog/
http://www.firebirdv6.com/
http://www.engine-parts.com/GMV6/GMV6Perf.html
http://www.turbov6camaro.com/home2.html <<It's a 3.8, but gives pretty good walk throughs on upgrades.

Turbo ideas..
A 336 rwhp 397 rwtq 3.4L on a single 15 psi turbo:
http://www.force-fed-fabrications.com/

And last but not least. My car:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/696690

And last but not least. My car:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/696690

Someone thinks a little too much of their car, dont they? :lol:

Someone thinks a little too much of their car, dont they? :lol:

Oh hell yeah, you know it. But nah, you would be suprised how many e-mails I get with people asking me how I did this, where I got that, etc. It's crazy. Figure it's because I'm one of the rare few people who actually mods a 3.4. I mean, I know how hard it is to find a site that actually has mods for a 3.4, or even features someone doing those mods. So I figure it wouldn't hurt to throw a few ideas their way.

blindxeyed, how much money do you have into your car and how much Hp is it putting to the ground?

well even though the 3.8 is way better than a 3.4 swaping a v6 for another v6 is a big ass wast of time. if your gonna do it then go for the big guns. either that or do my number one thing.....thats right, spray the piss out of it. hell u can even make a mustang fast on spray. shit imports do it, how the hell u think they hang like they do. trick is u will have to build what u have to handle a bigger shot

blindxeyed, how much money do you have into your car and how much Hp is it putting to the ground?

hmm, lets see..
Headers, no cat, and cat-back exhaust: $1000
Cold air intake: $200
Aluminum driveshaft: $150 (thanks to John)
So that would be around $1,350

That just includes the performance parts I've bought. Doesn't include the cosmetics like my newer center console, my blackouts. Nor does it include things like spark plugs, wires, and other minor little things.

As for the HP, well I'm uncertain. I'm aiming for 200hp if not more. I'm waiting to get my new rims before I take it to the dyno. I've got a nail in my passenger rear, and my front left one is patched. Thus, I haven't been driving it all that much. Plus I figure once I get the new rims, they'll be alot lighter so I'll be getting a little more torque to the wheels. After that, I'll be off to the track.

$1000 for a cat back system? A little too much.

I thought they went for that much usually

$1000 for a cat back system? A little too much.

Well that included
Pacesetter ceramic coated headers: $338
Borla cat-back $555
= $893

+ 400 Shop install fee
(Which included fixing a problem with my header. Then running extra pipe from the header y-pipe to the start of the borla cat-back. And all the exhaust piping was welded)

So total amount spent on exhaust was $1,293. Which IMO was well spent for the outcome I got.

hmm, lets see..
Headers, no cat, and cat-back exhaust: $1000
Cold air intake: $200
Aluminum driveshaft: $150 (thanks to John)
So that would be around $1,350


$1,350 for 50 or so HP? Doesn't that seem assanine to you? I mean I'm not trying to rag on you or anything but it really seems like a waste to me. Granted, I have a 3.4L too and I have done a few things to it also, but let's face it the 3.4 just doesn't have the potential that some other engines have.

$1,350 for 50 or so HP? Doesn't that seem assanine to you? I mean I'm not trying to rag on you or anything but it really seems like a waste to me. Granted, I have a 3.4L too and I have done a few things to it also, but let's face it the 3.4 just doesn't have the potential that some other engines have.

Hah, how much hp do you think exhaust would normally give any other engine? Shoot, you can do the same setup as I did on a 3.8, LT1, or even an LS1. And I guarantee you'll see about the same increase. Nothing too assanine about that.

As for the 3.4's. They do have potential. You just have to be willing to wanna work on it. Yeah, maybe it's a wee ol V6 and you see no point since there are V8's being offered. Well I don't know about you, but I tend to take the road less traveled and would like to do something different than to follow the crowd and sell my car for a V8.

Now me
Hooker shorty headers $ 100
Mandril bent pipe 3" $100
Flomaster 80 series $70
Corvette chrome tips mint cond.+ pipes (stolen from some other car I got them real cheap )
No cat, but theres a place to clamp the stock one on for emissions.

Assembled myself (no welding) Treated with black heat paint.

I did all this because the previous owner had one glasspack on the back, which was stupid. And keep in mind I am selling the car.

No cat, but theres a place to clamp the stock one on for emissions.

See, now that's the smart thing to do. I wish I had thought of doing that at the time.

My headers alone cost $830. :icon16:

My headers alone cost $830. :icon16:

WAAAAAAAAAA?????

Are they made out of some kind of lighter-than-titanium, depleted uranium, stainless composite?

Stainless. Top of the line LSx headers. 1 7/8" primaries. Kooks.
Worth EVERY penny in my opinion.

Stainless. Top of the line LSx headers. 1 7/8" primaries. Kooks.
Worth EVERY penny in my opinion.

what about those SuperMaxx headers? they are like 1000 bucks, but i donno what they are like or how good they are.

I think those are mostly for the Corvettes if I understand it right.
They are supposed to be great set-ups, but I haven't heard much about them.

http://www.secureperformanceorder.com/dynatechstore/performance.html

I think they are so expensive because of the type of stainless steel they use.

I think those are mostly for the Corvettes if I understand it right.
They are supposed to be great set-ups, but I haven't heard much about them.

http://www.secureperformanceorder.com/dynatechstore/performance.html

I think they are so expensive because of the type of stainless steel they use.

if you click the fbody, what are those handle looking things that stick up of the headers?

EGR and AIR provisions.

Fucking emissions. I don't have those anymore.

$830 on headers?! Man.. seems like Curtis only rolls in the best of circles :lol:

$830 on headers?! Man.. seems like Curtis only rolls in the best of circles :lol:
Figured I didn't want to skimp on this build. I wanted the best of the best. Believe me, this car makes me broke.
The only thing I didn't get I wanted was the heads. But I got such an insane deal on the ones I am getting, I couldn't pass it up.

BTW....
The old ones are the curvy ones on top.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Swap013.JPG

by the way, how close are you to getting it back up and running agin?

Coming along. Heads still aren't here. I need to figure out what to do about head gaskets as well. Cometic's are just too damn pricey. I would like to run stockers, but they are too thick for what I am looking for.
Planning on having a sound clip posted within 2-3 weeks. Probably closer to three though.

thankls for all the help guys
those sites have helped alot and now i just have to wait for them to come in