Drag raced tonight with drift set

yea.... this was my first time drag racing the 240.. just curious to see what i can do in the 1/8 mile.

anyway.. i was too lazy to change my setup... i had it setup still from the indy driftshootout.... big mistake... i was all over the track... absolutely no traction what so ever...i only saw third gear once... what a waste of money....

so what were your times...can say you went to the track and not post times...!!!!!

still had the same setup?.. you mean Ass tires?


theres not much else you could have changed... it takes like a second to set the shocks to full soft.

im not gonna say any times..... lol... it was that bad..

as with the setup.. i can do a few things.

i can raise and soften the front for better weight transfer... and then soften the rear too.... and also i can run lower psi in my rear tires


right now i have the front super stiff... that made it where it didnt transfer the weight at all

actually at the drag strip by where i live consistantly the fastest cars (on import-only weekends) are AWD eclipses and 240sx. several of both kinds in the 12s and a couple in the 11s

Similar to any car, 240sxs must be tuned to race specific setups if you are trying to get really good times.

BTW 240sxs are really good drag cars IMO. I didn't see too many other cars running 2.0 60' times on 205 street tires/open differential when I was at the track. And there is pretty much straight domestic every time I go.

SR you are right about the camber thing. Some people run positive camber so when the car squats, it will flatten out the contact patch.

And don't make threads about you going ot the track just to say you did poorly. Post times or this thread gets T3h L0ck...

*puts on flame suit*

I don't think its the setup of your suspension that makes it a bad drag vehicle... although it can help.



No I agree... theres not much you can change unless hes crying about not being able to put on stock shocks and springs on the rear...



Kuah did a 1.4 60ft on 7kg/mm rear springs in his 300ZX

.... im just posting a warning not to drag race with UR FRIGGEN DRift SET!!!.. MY GOD

There's an S13 with a FULL Silvia Conversion that runs out at our local Drag Way... He throws down some excellent times. I'll post a video.

-Wes

Jun makes some kind of solid rear axle thingy for 240s, it's like 1200$. And also, "don't drag with your drift set"??? What does that even mean???

Well for some reason the S13 videos aren't anywhere to be found on my Harddrive... Anyway, I have some of my buddy Freddy's S14.

He's got an SR20DET powertrain, a little bit here and there on it, nothing too serious. Not to mention he has Drift tires on as well ;)

Run one (http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=5571FE3F-67CE-4C60-A774-B0CC0363047D)

I'll post the second run after it optimizes.

-Wes

"don't drag with your drift set"??? What does that even mean???


well.. if you have fully adjustable suspension.. you can change your set...

Rick ran a 10.9 at 134. Click here (http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5316)

His timeslip is at the bottom. Running street radials and babying the car off the line. Stock tranny doesn't hold too well w/600+whp.lol I'm quite sure with his traps, a better 60' is more than possible. That car could run 9s with a better set up for drivetrain.

Jun makes some kind of solid rear axle thingy for 240s, it's like 1200$. And also, "don't drag with your drift set"??? What does that even mean???

Uhh... thats a subframe... SPL has one they're trying to sell for an S14... its just reinforced with the geometry tuned for squat.


Theres a 240 here with a solid axle and ford 302 something... very clean.. very professional... runs high tens.... still a good 2 seconds off of the fastest IRS SR20 Car.


Hoosier Drifter - you keep on talking about how you were on a drift setup... uh alright. whats that? you dont seem to know yourself... you just keep going on about how you could have changed some stuff. and unless you talking about swappin on busted rear shocks and zeroing camber theres not much you could have done... (which would have had a minimal affect anyhoo)

just post your damn times and quit trying to pin shitty launches on your ubar drift setup :gay:

im not gonna waste my time telling you everything im going to do it to help it hook up.. it should be common freakin sense... btw.. it wasnt crappy launches.. it was spinning the tires 3/4s of the track

im not gonna waste my time telling you everything im going to do it to help it hook up.. it should be common freakin sense... btw.. it wasnt crappy launches.. it was spinning the tires 3/4s of the track


LOL!

It WAS crappy launches. Because:

A)You don't have the power to spin the last 75% of the track
B)That leaves the first 3/4 of the track
c)You didn't do that either...

You spun all of first and part of second. You don't have the power to spin any more than that. No, you don't spin second from a roll. No you don't even spin any of third. You may chirp it some, maybe get a lil spin if you hit it hard enough, but thats it.

yea theres a an sr around here that hit 11.9 with just bolt ons.

it was an 1/8 mile track btw.. ok ok.. maybe it was spinning only half the track

You shouldn't even be spinning when you hit second. If you are, then you are just trying to spin.

...was that a sentence you were planning on finishing??? why dont you at least say what setup you were racing with...or would that be too hard to elaborate on..................

...was that a sentence you were planning on finishing??? why dont you at least say what setup you were racing with...or would that be too hard to elaborate on..................

Use the quote function so we know who you are talking to.

wow sorry everybody...long day at work in the sun. disregard that post. but i will saythis...hoosierdrifter, you seem to be avoiding the questions being asked and it is kinda annoying. you can't give details about your "drift setup" it really sounds like you are trying to pass the buck on your shitty car. now im not sayin that you actually have a bad car, but when you answer with these 2 sentence responses it MAKES it seem like you are hiding something. but then why would you even post that you had bad times in the first place...hmmm??? just post your setup so others that try to run with it can actually have some insight.

ya.. ok ... i wasted $15 just to try to spin my tires.... :rolleyes:

Wow this thread really took off!!! LOL

ya.. ok ... i wasted $15 just to try to spin my tires.... :rolleyes:

still, you've still recived multilple callouts on what should be an easy to answer question.

Again, What wubulus demon tweak do you have that would be worth crying about and then getting defensive about when people say "it wouldnt have helped"



Cliff Notes: Quit Being a Bitch

this thread delivers? idk but i dont see how you could have spun them that bad no matter what setup you have. There are many people who drag with coils and such set for drifting..idk, maybe you should get out and practice some more drags before you go to the track.

maybe he had on really crappy rear tires...ya know to make it easier to drift! and those caused all the spinning.

Maybe he had like negative 10 degrees of camber in the back and ultra soft suspension so with the squat he went down to like 50 degrees negative camber and had a contact patch of like half an inch.

wow sorry everybody...long day at work in the sun. disregard that post. but i will saythis...hoosierdrifter, you seem to be avoiding the questions being asked and it is kinda annoying. you can't give details about your "drift setup" it really sounds like you are trying to pass the buck on your shitty car. now im not sayin that you actually have a bad car, but when you answer with these 2 sentence responses it MAKES it seem like you are hiding something. but then why would you even post that you had bad times in the first place...hmmm??? just post your setup so others that try to run with it can actually have some insight.


ohhhhhhhhhh ok ill elaborate....

Tein flex coilovers - heigth adustable, spring rate adjustable, dampening adjustable and front camber plates.

My drift set:

Front -

1. very very and i mean very stiff front spring rate.
2. almost max front dampening
3. Pretty much as low as it will go in the front.
4. Close to 2" negative camber
5. about 34 psi of air

Rear -

1. medium stiff spring rate
2. about 3/4 of max dampening
3. just a tad higher than the front but still pretty damn low
4. about 1.5" negative camber (which i cant change yet but will be able to soon)
5. about 36 psi or air

NOW... what i plan to do the next time i go drag racing

Front -

1. Soften the spring rate as soft as it will go
2. softest damping rate
3. Raise it as high as it will go
4. zero out the camber
5. raise the tire pressure to max rating

Rear -

1. softest spring rate
2. softest dampening rate
3. keep ride heigth about the same
4. cant adjust camber yet, but maybe i will by the time i go drag racin again.
5. drop tire pressure to about 10 - 15 psi

my current modifications to powertrain -

Redtop sr20det
tubular exaust manifold
front mount innercooler
mines tuned ecu
300zx maf
intake-k&n cone filter
boost controller
3" downppipe
3" exhaust(no cat)
Apexi Safc II
HKS SSQV bov

wheel tire combo -

4 - 17 x 7 Black 10 spoke w/ stainless lip

215/40-17 frt 225/45-17 rear

1" wheel adapters (spacers)

Rear Diff-

skyline?jdm s14? 4.3 final gear VLSD

curb weight - 2530 lbs

with no weight transfer... it was like having fwd without the added weight over the drivewheels

so....

A) Wow was that really so hard.

B)soften the spring rate as low as it will go? uhhh. unless you have various sets of springs you cant change spring rate. even if you did its not like its some mad demon tweak that you'll run 1 second faster. like I said Kuah did a 1.4 60ft with 7kg/mm rear spings (which are harder than tein)

C) it takes me 30 seconds to get all my dampers to full soft... Teins arent inverted so it should take you 20. coilovers shouldnt droop more than an inch anyhoo so again... doesnt really matter.

D) Ride height is another thing that can be considered trivial on a 250WHP car.

E) Dont have RUCAs so you cant adjust camber and adjusting front camber wont do anything except make it more stable.

F) Tire Pressure.... takes a while but anyone can do it...


I suppose Im mad because I didnt see the cop out coming.

sounds like a nice setup to have. deffinately need rear camber adj. haha.. what tires were you runnin?

so....

A) Wow was that really so hard.

B)soften the spring rate as low as it will go? uhhh. unless you have various sets of springs you cant change spring rate. even if you did its not like its some mad demon tweak that you'll run 1 second faster. like I said Kuah did a 1.4 60ft with 7kg/mm rear spings (which are harder than tein)

C) it takes me 30 seconds to get all my dampers to full soft... Teins arent inverted so it should take you 20. coilovers shouldnt droop more than an inch anyhoo so again... doesnt really matter.

D) Ride height is another thing that can be considered trivial on a 250WHP car.

E) Dont have RUCAs so you cant adjust camber and adjusting front camber wont do anything except make it more stable.

F) Tire Pressure.... takes a while but anyone can do it...


I suppose Im mad because I didnt see the cop out coming.

A) :nono:

B) if its not called spring rate.. then whats the adjustment that tightens and stiffens the spring?

C) my coilovers adjust over 3 inches i think in the front

D) Ride heigth will help transfer more weight to the rear

E) Just picture it in ur head... i will zero out the front camber to make the track surface parallel with the front tires... therefore when i add max tire pressure to the front it will cause the tire to bulge more in the center...causing less contact patch...meaning less resistence

byw coilovers don' have adjustments that tightne up the spring, maybe what u talking about changes the ride heigth....



no... the ride heigth adjustment has nothing to do with the spring...

you loosen the very bottom collar and twist the whole coilover to change the ride heigth...

It's the dampening setting. You know the 16 way adjustable, 32 way adjustable, that's the dampening. And wat does the traction on the front wheels have to do with anything? It's rwd so you want zero camber on the rear, the front, like RW240 said is just for stability.

Oh, and I thought you wanted soft rear and hard front when drag racing....

It's the dampening setting. You know the 16 way adjustable, 32 way adjustable, that's the dampening. And wat does the traction on the front wheels have to do with anything? It's rwd so you want zero camber on the rear, the front, like RW240 said is just for stability.


i already explained myself about zeroing out camber in the front..but here goes again... Just picture it in ur head... i will zero out the front camber to make the track surface parallel with the front tires... therefore when i add max tire pressure to the front it will cause the tire to bulge more in the center...causing less contact patch...meaning less resistance..

and yes.. the damping is the little knob on top thank you.. :rolleyes:

you want the front to be soft for more weight transfer

i already explained myself about zeroing out camber in the front..but here goes again... Just picture it in ur head... i will zero out the front camber to make the track surface parallel with the front tires... therefore when i add max tire pressure to the front it will cause the tire to bulge more in the center...causing less contact patch...meaning less resistance..


Umm less resistance? you'll barely be doing 90 in the 8th. it wont make that much of a difference... rear camber is what matters which you know.

what your talking about is on the coilover is preload adjustment which I wouldnt run to much of even on a drift. setup.

your not gonna do all that crap and drop a second. your problem is 225 tires... get some 255s or something.

damn just to post whore once more, I see the the problem here

17x7

225 sized tires

they just won't earn

dude u need like 17x9 and 275 sized tires
muhahaha

I call the BS flag on this one. I ran a 2.0 60' on stock rims, 205 sized Toyo Proxxes FZ4s, stock suspension, and an open differential. 2.0 60' is more than enough to get a good ballpark of what the car will do. Sure it might go quicker if you threw some drag radials on, but then you can't really say it is any faster. All you can do is brag about the drag radials that you have to use to go that quick:rolleyes:

And for you air pressure geeks, that run was on 43psi of air pressure in all four tires. Checked it before I left.

It sounds like you either need to either:

A) Stop caring about ET
B) Learn how to drive the car

I raise the BS flag on this one, there aren't even that many SR's in the 12's with the stock turbo, you would defintely have to do a turbo upgrade to get into the mid 12's. 11's is far fetched, even MyNismo with a disco potato turbo and a custom tune wasn't doing that.

maybe I just don't consider a turbo upgrade a bolt on modification......

maybe a full bolt on SR in a geo metro tubbed with big ass slicks and a uber launch technique would get into the 11's...

:nono:


oh you do, ill try to find the video.



well the vid doesnt work.......BUT i talked to the guy heres the mod list.

these are the mods
all bolt ons
front mount rspl
hotpipe
full exhaust
tubular header
480cc (stock s15 injectors)
t28 pulsar turbo (very crappy turbo like half ballbearing.) 14psi
tuned ecu with fine tuning on afc 312whp 338 torque
stock internals except valve springs and rocker arm stoppers.

so yea they did change the turbo....still though.

I think he got rid of it that one and is supposedly building one leet of an sr engine. He does most the swaps around here and from what his sr "click" says lol, he does mean business. He's in an on going battle with this other kid who is almost done with his fully built ka lol. It will be interesting i do admit. There both claiming over 450 whp when its done. And no there not some punk ass 18 year old kids.....the ka guy is 28 i believe and he does know some shit.

If an S15 T28 maxes out at 320whp, how does a "crappy" pulsar T28 do 312?

If an S15 T28 maxes out at 320whp, how does a "crappy" pulsar T28 do 312?


dunno lol, there's a vid though it just doesnt work anymore, trust me its true there fella. Many people have seen it to back the claim up too. Im not close friends with the guy, but he has lots of respect around here, so he's not a bs'er. He's on srgarage i believe also.

www.srgarage.com there you go. Like i said just a local type thing. He does most the swaps. They have lots of vids.

any person who stops caring about e/t's needs to get a kia, or if u gotta be a dorifto get a miata or AE86 haha

I knew I bought the wrong car.:rolleyes:

when u run a 1.5 60' time I will get excited about it Fanatic. plus u got mor torque then his SR in the lower revs so u should pull a lil faster in 1st gear then his setup. Difference in tranny gearing... etc.

ooooo, My next goal.. Impress you!!1111:rolleyes: Seriously... You are telling me what I need to do with my car, yet I see nothing of any of your cars. I want to see some of your Inzan3 ET timeslips with 1.5 60's.

Besides, nobody gets an opinion on what I do with my car, so don't waste your typing.

And no there not some punk ass 18 year old kids

I'm a punk ass 19 year old...

lol fanat, you know what i ment. You know how those "punk ass" kids claim there going to have this much hp and run this time in the 1/4, and not even own the car yet and so on.... I was just stating these are somewhat old heads that do mean some business.

yeah, and most those kids are 14 or 15 too and dont even have a car yet.. Lets try to stay on topic here, any more news on the resetting of the coils?

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"plus u will pop a boner if somebody takes a pic of your launch and you see the sidewall wraping around."

Uhh... No?

Yea.haha

I'll pop a boner when I see a 120mph trap.