Damn Drunks

Me and my girl and a friend were drinking it up one weekday (Thursday). We all started real early, if my memory serves me right, 4pm. Pounding 'em back as fast as we could. We all knew those coolers really mess you up, so we stuck to Kokanee (Canadian Beer). We didnt want the 2 day hangovers that the Smirnoff coolers gave us. Its a rare occassion that I get myself into a state like I did that day/night (Thursday). But I had the clear sense to not drive, unlike my buddy. I see the commercials on TV, the MADD ads. So around 8pm I have a very vague sense of what I did. My girl drove us to a few places, but we ended up back at my house. Where the beer was flowing. But my bud just got up and left around midnight. There was not much I could do. But he decided to risk it and drive. The next day he phones me up all messed up. Told me he decided to get more booze, and go to the Casino. On his way home, I guess he took a detour, or the long route home and got busted. I read his police papers and he blew a 0.23 on the BAC meter. Now I dont know much about that but I know the legal limit is 0.08, so thats like just about triple the legal limit. This upset me alot. Because when we became friends a few years back he was bussing it from his first DUI. Now since this is Canada its not as severe as in the States, but its still a Federal Criminal Offence. I told him he will probably lose his license for a year or 2, and yes he will be bussing it. He became depressed, and started thinking of ways to get around it. I told him to count his blessings he or anybody else wasn't hurt. Because blowing that kind of number, its not a minor thing. The next day he continues to drink his face off, as I try to give him some sense of comfort. But this kind of drinking is hardcore, alcoholic like. Myself I can't do that. But who am I to say one is alcoholic. Who am I to say one needs to go to Alcoholics Anonymous. If he cant stop, no one can really help him. What should I do? I was thinking about leaving one of those AA pamphlets on his coffee table. Man I dont know what to do, he is a friend. I cant be with him when he drinks to much. I can have one or two and call it a day. I just hate hanging out with drunks when I am sober. But I guess I can look at him and see what I am like once or twice a year. I keep telling him to buy a lotto ticket, because he is the luckiest person I ever seen. Anyway he thinks he can handle it on his own, but I got him a lawyer. I will just keep a close eye on him, make sure he sobers up for his court appearance. The last thing he needs is a Driving While Suspended conviction or another DUI. Make things even worse. I think the most he will get is 3 year suspension, but after 3 or 6 months he can get the Ignition Interlock Program. I wonder if I can help the lawyer and the DA to get him into Alcohlolics Anonymous. I never realized how bad he is until now. I think its like a therapy session where they talk about their day, whats on their minds etc. Not like an actual recovery house where they actually work a program. I have been exposed to it a few times, as my parents took me as a kid.

That's really a sad situation. I've never been in that situation, but maybe you should try talking some sense into him when he is sober, and get him to go to AA. Hope for the best.

No offense but AA is not a good program in my eyes. They preech religion to get you to stop drinking. And by doing that many will tell you that they either drop out, or completely change their life to conform with the program. Sit him down tell him that he is a fucking drunk and you want to help, but if he isn't open to that than he can go fuck himself. This has happened to me before and after a friend of mine got his second DUI that is exactley what I did. We didn't speak for a couple of weeks, but then he showed up at my house thanking me for what I had said. I drink a lot and my friends do too. I see nothing wrong with it as long as you're not doing stupid things (i.e. drinking and driving) or affecting your life like you don't go to work/school because your too hung over, or beating up your girlfriend, or abusing your family. As long as your not drinking to get drunk (for me it just always seems to happen that I get shitfaced while hanging out with people). Don't be like you can never drink again because that's the kill for most people right there. Just be like I care about you because you're a good friend of mine and don't want to see you end up dead very young, in jail, or killing/hurting someone else because of the booze. Then a good ass whooping will usually do the trick too. People I know tend to have very addictive personalites so I have quite a few experiances with this type of stuff. Peace-

religion is completely irrevelant to a bad habit. screw aa i hate them and all they stand for

Seriously, A friend was ordered by the courts after his DUI to go to AA and he showed me the book, it's basically the bible. It's talks about praying to god and jesus and all this shit. It's like they want you to convert to christiananity and I'm sorry i don't believe in that in first place, so I'll be damned if they're gonna tell me how to solve my problem. Peace-