FYI: Water can be fuel

Yeah, that's right, the government doesn't want you to know. I have heard of a few people that actually did it and they "dissapeared", either by government payoff and relocation or, um, death.

Water is, as anyone should know, H2O

That's one part Hydrogen, two parts Oxygen. Electrolysis is used to "split" the water into hydrogen-oxygen gas, and BAM, you have a very efficient fuel for our internal combustion engines. The only by-product of combustion is, water vapor, no toxic gases!

Our water heaters in our homes, if left unpowered for a few months, will create Hydrogen-Oxygen gas that will explode if an ignition source is near. I got an email with pics of a dish washer that was blown across the kitchen. Because the apartment had been vacant for a few months, the maintenance man was upstairs checking things out, when he turned on the water upstairs he heard an explosion and the whole dish washer was on the other side of the of the kitchen with the latch still locked and the back of it still where it was.

Someone told me that the model T ford was originally designed to run on water, but for some reason...

Also, it would take 400 gallons of gasoline to equal the same amount of potential energy from one gallon of water.

Talk about a renewable resource! We have more water on this planet than anything, and when used this way it will turn back into water, so we will never run out fuel.

I thought now would be the best time to let people know this secret since gas prices have soared in the last few days.

yes its well known about, but you cant just drop a 9 volt battery in a bucket of water and expect hydrogen. It takes a TON of energy to seperate Hydrogen and Oxygen molecules. It doesnt just happen on its own. I believe the water heater exploded because of a gas leak, the washing machine makes no sense because it doesnt hold water in it, it drains it out. And even so there is no energy source to seperate the molecules. You think because you let water sit it becomes hydrogen?

Yes hydrogen has a ton more potential energy than gasoline, the problem is making hydrogen. Like i said, you need a ton of energy to seperate hydrogen and oxygren molecules. So much energy that its financially not worth it to try and seperate and sell it right now.

The water heater did not explode, it was the type of metel in the elements in the water heater that caused the elecrolysis, even without electricity. Maybe it had something to do with the pressure build up in the WH that caused the electrolysis. There were no gas lines in the apartment.

Anyway, the point is, it has been done, a guy here modified his minivan to run on water/hydrogen-oxygen gas and was nowhere to be found a week later. The government/oil companies want us to keep buying oil, so they got rid of him.

Of course it's too late now, we are obviously so dependant on oil that if everyone's car ran on water, it would kill the economy since we wouldn't be using as much oil.

Everyone might think I'm crazy, I'm not, I'm just crazy about the fact that we aren't doing anything about it.

These "hydrogen powered" vehicles we hear are being developed will have hydrogen tanks, guess what would happen if one of these cars were in an accident and the tank was punctured? Boom!

My vision of a water powered car: Fill up the tank with water once a month or even less often, special electrolysis injectors would send the hydrogen/oxygen mix straight into the combustion chamber, no need for hydrogen storage tanks. Never make a trip to a filling station again. Imagine, one day...

That's one part Hydrogen, two parts Oxygen. Electrolysis is used to "split" the water into hydrogen-oxygen gas, and BAM, you have a very efficient fuel for our internal combustion engines. The only by-product of combustion is, water vapor, no toxic gases!Here's an idea. Take your electrolysis process to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen. Then you can use the hydrogen and oxygen in a hydrogen fuel cell to generate electricity to power your car. Then the process can restart as you still have your water. Right?

The fuel cell can generate electricity, but not even enough to power the electrolysis of the water to restart the process, let alone using any of it to power a vehicle. If you could have a 100% self-sustaining machine, you'd be the first person to successfully create perpetual motion.

You will have to have a secondary source of power to help supply the energy needed in the electrolysis process. Traditionally that comes from fossil fuels, nuclear, or other more traditional means of generating energy.

Those pesky laws of thermodynamics and energy get in the way of of progress, don't they. :)

The water heater did not explode, it was the type of metel in the elements in the water heater that caused the elecrolysis, even without electricity. Maybe it had something to do with the pressure build up in the WH that caused the electrolysis. There were no gas lines in the apartment.

Anyway, the point is, it has been done, a guy here modified his minivan to run on water/hydrogen-oxygen gas and was nowhere to be found a week later. The government/oil companies want us to keep buying oil, so they got rid of him.

Of course it's too late now, we are obviously so dependant on oil that if everyone's car ran on water, it would kill the economy since we wouldn't be using as much oil.

Everyone might think I'm crazy, I'm not, I'm just crazy about the fact that we aren't doing anything about it.

These "hydrogen powered" vehicles we hear are being developed will have hydrogen tanks, guess what would happen if one of these cars were in an accident and the tank was punctured? Boom!

My vision of a water powered car: Fill up the tank with water once a month or even less often, special electrolysis injectors would send the hydrogen/oxygen mix straight into the combustion chamber, no need for hydrogen storage tanks. Never make a trip to a filling station again. Imagine, one day...

You need to do more research man. I bet you've heard an ass load of urban legends and are taking them to heart. Hydrogen cars exist. Mercedes Benz has a small fleet that they test on and drive around to show that they actually work.

You cant have electrolysis without electricity. Water is very stable and doesnt just randomly break down with out a stimulus.

Yes, a tank of hydrogen that gets punctured with probably make a big explosion. What do you think happens when a gasoline tank gets punctured?

The hydrogen cars run on liquid hydrogen. Hydrogen gas doesnt have enough potential energy to run a car.

The problem with hydrogen as an energy source is that it takes lots of hydrogen to make a car run. I read that it we would have to electrolysize the amount of water that flows over Niagra Falls in 3 months to get enough hydrogen to power one day of American life. Yeah, gas prices are going to go up and soon we will run out of oil in which case we are going to have to figure out what to do. The government, though it may do some really stupid shit sometimes, isnt out to get you. They realize that the shit will hit the fan in the next couple of decades and we will have to find new energy. Until then cut down on driving, ride your bike, buy a Geo Metro or a moped, and get used to it. Soon we will wish gas was $3.00 a gallon again.

Also, hydrogen vehicles' fuel cells are made of platinum, which is a rare earth metal. In order to replace the 700 million gas burners with hydrogen vehicles, we would have to mine every ounce of platinum in the earth, not to mention burn thousands of gallons of crude oil to extract it......catch 22...

hahahahahah you need to take a thermodynamics class first, than realize ge already has a bunch of hydro cars.

So I don't know jack about thermodynamics. I may look like a fool for starting this thread, but it doesn't bother me, I'm more concerned for our cars and what we'll be doing with them in the next few decades.

I don't understand why all the research on hydrogen vehicles is focused on NEW CARS with hydrogen cells and electric motors when our gas burners can run just as cleanly on hydrogen. Why aren't we focused on research that will use hydrogen in our CURRENT cars. If it's not feasible to convert the water to H/O gas in the vehicle then that's fine, it would have been nice though. It may cost a little to adapt new technology to our cars, but it would be better than everyone buying a new car and junking all our old cars.

Why aren't we focused on research that will use hydrogen in our CURRENT cars.

Unfortunately it would not be feasable to just switch to hydrogen in your current car. The engine is a gasoline engine, designed for gasoline. The pressures, temperatures, timings, everything would have to be changed to work with hydrogen. Along with a different fuel injection system, different air/fuel ratios. It just dont work.