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bh04
09-01-2005, 02:18 AM
A qeustion that is bothering me is this......if/when I get my nitrous kit should I use the 93 rating gas premium or does it mattter or can i use 89? If I should use the 93 rating, what should I do to my fuel lines or whatever? I use 89 right now.
TheOtherMatt
09-01-2005, 02:31 AM
first off i thought the gas ratings were 87 and 91
second off what do you have done to your engine? you shouldnt run nitrous on a stock engine
second off what do you have done to your engine? you shouldnt run nitrous on a stock engine
jakegday
09-01-2005, 08:24 AM
first off i thought the gas ratings were 87 and 91
i can get 87, 89, 90, 91, 92, and 93 octane in my town, i'd have to go to about 3 different gas stations, but they're all there
i can get 87, 89, 90, 91, 92, and 93 octane in my town, i'd have to go to about 3 different gas stations, but they're all there
-Jayson-
09-01-2005, 11:13 AM
yes, you need to get colder plugs and run 93 octane whenever you want to hit the juice. What are you doing for fuel modifications?
bh04
09-01-2005, 02:59 PM
The stuff I have done is new spark plugs, plug wires, new alternator, new fuel pump and fuel rails, battery. That is all the new stuff I have done to my car since I got it.
As for gas we have 87, 91, and 93.......sorry for any inconvenience.
As for gas we have 87, 91, and 93.......sorry for any inconvenience.
bh04
09-01-2005, 03:02 PM
yes, you need to get colder plugs and run 93 octane whenever you want to hit the juice. What are you doing for fuel modifications?
What do you mean by colder plugs? And as for the gas, what would I have to do to switch from 91 to 93. Isn't there a big difference in gas and would that mess up my gas lines or anything like that if I have a mixture?
Fuel modifications I should probably ask first before I get one installed.
What do you mean by colder plugs? And as for the gas, what would I have to do to switch from 91 to 93. Isn't there a big difference in gas and would that mess up my gas lines or anything like that if I have a mixture?
Fuel modifications I should probably ask first before I get one installed.
cdru
09-01-2005, 04:56 PM
What do you mean by colder plugs? And as for the gas, what would I have to do to switch from 91 to 93. Isn't there a big difference in gas and would that mess up my gas lines or anything like that if I have a mixture?Higher octane gas is meant for higher performance engines to help prevent predetonation aka knock. With high compression engines or engines with forced induction (turbo/supercharger), the extra heat from the compression can actually cause the air/fuel mixture to ignite before it should, causing the knocking sound. Using a higher octane fuel helps prevent the predetonation.
Using a high octane fuel when a a low octane fuel would work will not cause any problems...and it really wouldn't give you and advantages other then making your pocketbook thinner. There is no performance addatives and usually no signifiant additional cleaners over the standard grade. And they are completely compatible with one another...they aren't going to damage anything. Using 1/2 a tank of 87-grade and a 1/2 tank of 91-grade will result in a tank of...about 89-grade.
Similarly to forced induction engines, if you were to use NOS in your current setup the heat produced in the combustion chamber also would go up. To counter this you can use a plug with a colder heat range to help reduce the temperatures.
You'll want to upgrade your fuel system as the NOS itself does not produce more horsepower per se. It just produces more available oxygen to react with the fuel. If you don't increase the fuel to burn, you wouldn't be getting the maximum potential "benifit" of using NOS.
Using a high octane fuel when a a low octane fuel would work will not cause any problems...and it really wouldn't give you and advantages other then making your pocketbook thinner. There is no performance addatives and usually no signifiant additional cleaners over the standard grade. And they are completely compatible with one another...they aren't going to damage anything. Using 1/2 a tank of 87-grade and a 1/2 tank of 91-grade will result in a tank of...about 89-grade.
Similarly to forced induction engines, if you were to use NOS in your current setup the heat produced in the combustion chamber also would go up. To counter this you can use a plug with a colder heat range to help reduce the temperatures.
You'll want to upgrade your fuel system as the NOS itself does not produce more horsepower per se. It just produces more available oxygen to react with the fuel. If you don't increase the fuel to burn, you wouldn't be getting the maximum potential "benifit" of using NOS.
bh04
09-01-2005, 05:19 PM
What upgrades would you suggest to do on my fuel system? Where would I go to get this new fuel stuff?
Maybe NOS isn't for me, I really don't race much, I just want it to kinda show off a bit. Maybe later when I do turbo or SC my car, I will use it more and race on the ¼ mile. But until then, I wouldn't use it constantly.
Maybe NOS isn't for me, I really don't race much, I just want it to kinda show off a bit. Maybe later when I do turbo or SC my car, I will use it more and race on the ¼ mile. But until then, I wouldn't use it constantly.
deadBird
09-02-2005, 05:22 PM
Well if you do, make sure you post pics of what is left of you car.
bh04
09-02-2005, 05:41 PM
Well if you do, make sure you post pics of what is left of you car.
What's that sposed to mean? Just curious.
What's that sposed to mean? Just curious.
deadBird
09-02-2005, 06:25 PM
http://www.team3s.com/FAQnitrousX.htm
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/nitrousexplosion.html
http://www.barrygrant.com/nitrous/default.aspx?page=118a
Yer messing with something you don't need to mess with. But if you do and something horrible goes wrong, I'd really enjoy some entertaining pictures. :)
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/nitrousexplosion.html
http://www.barrygrant.com/nitrous/default.aspx?page=118a
Yer messing with something you don't need to mess with. But if you do and something horrible goes wrong, I'd really enjoy some entertaining pictures. :)
bh04
09-02-2005, 08:55 PM
Even though those are a few cars out of a lot that have nitrous kits, honestly I dont' think i'll put a kit in my c car and just use the money i'm saving up for a new exhuast system....header back.
Classicrocjunkie
09-03-2005, 09:51 PM
That video shown above is what happens when Nitrous puddles.....
Oh and.... Its not called "NOS" its Nitrous. NOS is a brand name along with NX, ZEX, Venom, and the other off brands. This isn't the FNF... Nitrous is extremly fun though. I have ridden in a sunfire runing a dry 50 shot.
Oh and.... Its not called "NOS" its Nitrous. NOS is a brand name along with NX, ZEX, Venom, and the other off brands. This isn't the FNF... Nitrous is extremly fun though. I have ridden in a sunfire runing a dry 50 shot.
bh04
09-03-2005, 11:12 PM
I was searching around for the best price on Pacesetter headers and came across one with this as an item description....the color is what it says
BLUE Armor-Coat Ceramic Coated Header - ALL 2.2L Mdls - 1 1/2" Tubing Dia. - 2 1/4" Collector Dia. - Flanged Collector - Smog & EM Hook-Ups....for $225 shipped :D
BLUE Armor-Coat Ceramic Coated Header - ALL 2.2L Mdls - 1 1/2" Tubing Dia. - 2 1/4" Collector Dia. - Flanged Collector - Smog & EM Hook-Ups....for $225 shipped :D
Classicrocjunkie
09-04-2005, 05:44 PM
I still have my pacesetter header in its shipping boxed never used. I think i may sell it off because i am not going to need it if i can get things going right for me.
01Cavy
09-04-2005, 06:00 PM
What exactly are you planning on doing? Engine swap or you just want a different brand headers?
bh04
09-04-2005, 09:10 PM
I still have my pacesetter header in its shipping boxed never used. I think i may sell it off because i am not going to need it if i can get things going right for me.
If you do want to get rid of it....what would you want for it? Armor coated?
If you do want to get rid of it....what would you want for it? Armor coated?
Classicrocjunkie
09-05-2005, 05:50 PM
What exactly are you planning on doing? Engine swap or you just want a different brand headers?
Vrrooom...... pssh....Vrroooom...... psssh! :wink:
bh04- It is the ceramic Armor coated, never used.
I paid $250 for them shipped from Gravana... i'll let you know wheather or not my buddy gets his 3800 GTP engine in the next few months which is depicting what i do.
Vrrooom...... pssh....Vrroooom...... psssh! :wink:
bh04- It is the ceramic Armor coated, never used.
I paid $250 for them shipped from Gravana... i'll let you know wheather or not my buddy gets his 3800 GTP engine in the next few months which is depicting what i do.
01Cavy
09-05-2005, 05:56 PM
Vrrooom...... pssh....Vrroooom...... psssh! :wink:
Ah...I got ya.
I paid $250 for them shipped from Gravana... i'll let you know wheather or not my buddy gets his 3800 GTP engine in the next few months which is depicting what i do.
Since I've talked myself into keeping my cavy since its almost paid off, I am hoping to do that swap within a couple of years. I want to set mine up with a twin turbo setup though. Just out of curiosity...what transmission is he going to use with that engine? Will it be Manual or Auto?
Ah...I got ya.
I paid $250 for them shipped from Gravana... i'll let you know wheather or not my buddy gets his 3800 GTP engine in the next few months which is depicting what i do.
Since I've talked myself into keeping my cavy since its almost paid off, I am hoping to do that swap within a couple of years. I want to set mine up with a twin turbo setup though. Just out of curiosity...what transmission is he going to use with that engine? Will it be Manual or Auto?
Classicrocjunkie
09-05-2005, 11:54 PM
^^ I am not 100% sure on that part. I think he is going to keep it an auto though. If it was me and i was doing that swap, i would use a 5 speed getrag out of a newer cav. But thats just me.
bh04
09-06-2005, 02:11 AM
^^ I am not 100% sure on that part. I think he is going to keep it an auto though. If it was me and i was doing that swap, i would use a 5 speed getrag out of a newer cav. But thats just me.
Were you referring to me?
Were you referring to me?
Lvtrucks2000
09-06-2005, 11:09 AM
I would pull the head and have it rebuilt. Port and polish with better valves. Then pull hte timing chain and gears and install a better set. Install your true perfomance exhaust and header. Then think about Nitros. Or sell the car and get you a Acura RSX-S and you will have the same thing with less money
01Cavy
09-06-2005, 11:32 AM
^^ I am not 100% sure on that part. I think he is going to keep it an auto though. If it was me and i was doing that swap, i would use a 5 speed getrag out of a newer cav. But thats just me.
I would want to change it to 5-speed also. Just wasn't sure what transmission to use.
I would want to change it to 5-speed also. Just wasn't sure what transmission to use.
4dr92cavi4cyl
09-07-2005, 01:09 PM
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/nitrousexplosion.html
OMG! He should have known not to use nitrous on a FORD! LOL!
kidding
CRJ: What do you mean by puddles? Too much nitrous?
OMG! He should have known not to use nitrous on a FORD! LOL!
kidding
CRJ: What do you mean by puddles? Too much nitrous?
Lvtrucks2000
09-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Another Reson Nitros is completely useless on a Stock vehicle
Classicrocjunkie
09-08-2005, 10:07 PM
What puddles means is basically what is said. When mixed with fuel it gains in weight from a gas to a homegeous mixture of N20 and gasoline and it can puddle in a small amount in your intake manifold. When you floor it the vaccume of the engine sucks all that that extra mixture in and.... BOOM! Its a freak accident kinda thing though.
Chevy4life1985
09-09-2005, 12:22 PM
OMG! He should have known not to use nitrous on a FORD! LOL!
I think your right. LOL and i aint kidding. My buddy has a 97 cobra. I went up with him to some mustang drag racing show. There was a 2001 Mustang GT with a supercharger and nitrous ( with other mods obviously ). He gets up to the line to race my buddies S/C 97 Cobra. Light turns green. BBBOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM. There goes the engine. Car caught on fire and everything lol. The driver was ok. Come to think of it i think I got hit with a piece of metal LOL.
I think your right. LOL and i aint kidding. My buddy has a 97 cobra. I went up with him to some mustang drag racing show. There was a 2001 Mustang GT with a supercharger and nitrous ( with other mods obviously ). He gets up to the line to race my buddies S/C 97 Cobra. Light turns green. BBBOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM. There goes the engine. Car caught on fire and everything lol. The driver was ok. Come to think of it i think I got hit with a piece of metal LOL.
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